Baronakim

I think you are replying to my post which is still on the East bank thread and was not moved. Yep, we both made out like bandits with our farms, though I think I will hold out for another several years before cashing in. If they four lane US 431 which has been rumoured, it will boost my farm value hugely being between I 65 and Us 431 justnorth of exit 37.

Yes, I see it now. Though where you got an Idea i thought it was from Edgefield boogles me. I think the stairway on the L&C helps tie this down. We are definitely looking st the back face of the L&C Penthouse. From the position of the Ryman roof and the Broadway steeples, I would place this as near South Street going up the hill south of Edgehill towards 8th. . My comments on the low end for the interstate loop I think are still valid. Fort Negley would be to the right of the flipped photo. That better?

That is why I retired at a distance from the city early and commuted 100+ miles per workday. I can live on SS with a moderate boost from 401K and sale of some surplus and unneeded assets. The raw acerage across the street from my farm auctioned off last Saturday was in the $25,000+ per acre range. I bought my 50 for about $700 per acre. Two years earlier and I could have bought it for $300 per acre...all I wanted. I have already turned down offers over $40,000 per acre, plus the value of the structures. Yep, Nashville folks that are older and only propery rich are S.O.L. if they want to stay put. I can appreciate why so many are bitter. The influx of new folks from other big cities have a huge advantage of having sold their properties for big bucks and discover that there are still bargains here to be found. I rather doubt this will last more than a decade more though IMO.

I never said these inner city neighborhoods were not going to change. From the mid 50s to the early 80s, a VAST area of the city was demolished. We are still fillingup all the vacant lands. What isn't changing are the many neighborhoods built around that time. Many of them are protected by overlays now. I really don't expect the USA will have vast public works projects that disrupt neighborhood like the Eisenhour Interstate programs. Plus the old victorians, warehouses , commercial buildings were either rotting or of a technology very different from what we have available today. The old Victorian era dwelling were too difficult and expensive to rebuild as they were not set up for the 20th century. This was a change of technology from gaslights and coal with insulation not even minimal. The automobile changed everything. Look at all the warehouses in the core that disappeared in this old photo. 90% of them disappeaed in a decade (60s). I doubt that even 10% of the buildings in that photo remain standing today after "Urban Renewal" was effected. print out the photo and use a yellow highliner. I think you will be shocked by the extent of mid-twentieth century loss. Changes are going to mostly in the downtown of the old city limits and most eventually along the existing arterials. There will be a barrier and great resistance to change because Nashville is surrounded by suburbs that are going to be basically unchanged for at least three to five more decades IMO. I don't see them being gobbled up piecemeal by developers and transformed into huge multifamily blocks when the central core is still in the mid-beginning of such transformation. Do you see any of the residential character of these neighborhoods changing a great deal anytime soon? Belle Meade, Oak Hill, Crieve Hall, Dalewood, Donelson, Inglewood, Lockland Springs, Edgefield, Granny White, Woodmont , Goodletsville, to name a few. Homes in those neighborhoods will continue to increase in value , be updated and be largely fossilized as they are today. I can see very little change overall there in the past five decades. Now what I do see is a huge change coming in the commercial structures which have been built in the past two decades. Modern commercial construction has a very predictable lifespan of about 30 years. It is cheaper to raze and rebuild than remodel largely. Our stadium is a prime example of that. Also the Pinnacle tower is a replacement with the older downgraded in rental class. These glass towers have an expiration date or at least a "best use by" date, likewise forthe big box stores and fast food joints. They are disposable. Nashville will be very different in two decades, but I think the comparison of our close in suburbs and that photo's shacks is perhaps not so inevitable. That's my two cents.

No, the white car is parked, so the photo is not inverted. The key to this location is the orientation of the Cummins Station building with the steeple on Broadway beyond. They givs a clear landmark to the direction of this view from the publishing house. I had to do a detailed study of this area back in the 1960s and build a big area model for the construction of the Science Center. This was before the interstates. My guess is that the wooded area at the bottom of the street is where the I-40 inner loop bordering division is now. It was a very wide clearing and the buildings on the hill were probably demolished for the I 65 construction in the early 1970s. The buildings you see in the area in front of Cummins has a number of warehouses and such that was 11th and 12th Avenues in the future Gulch. I suspect that this is in the vicinity near Chestnut over by Fort Negley. The cut there is rather deep and everything south to the Fort Negley hill was cleared.

MUCH better design than most going up IMO.

Oh, I fully agree that escalation is not required. I think you and I are mostly on the same page. Going back to the initial comment on those townhouse, I think our differences are qualitative, not quantitative. I just viewed those IMO as a very poor use of a site. Horrible 1970s layout of parking, boring fascade and just wrong overall. Nashville can certainly deserve much better. I feel the same about many other projects suffering from overall unimpressive design. Unfortunately, the high demand for housing forces new many Nashvillians to accept needlessly ugly and boring facilities. I think we all on UP appreciate how our city needs to grow. We really need to view our comments as discussion rather than argument. I for myself am happy to do so in my somewhat longwinded and pontifical (at times) way.

Yes, but 12South and Weho are very close in the original (PreMetro) city limits. The buildings there are deep in the very early business districts of the city. As to surrounding counties, certainly Williamson County has exploded, but it is also the wealthiest county in the country. Off the interstate for several miles, it rapidly changes with development. However, this isn't so evident towards Williamsport, Fly or Santa Fe. Development follows the interstate down to Cool Springs, Spring Hill etc. Lots of rural land virtually unchanged for decades. Even in Nashville, houses like on Iverson in Inglewood built in the 1920s have been remodeled and are likely to stand for another hundred years at least. Even Gallatin Pike is not a great deal changed from Inglewood to Madison. The same can be said of Dickerson Road from Due West to Goodletsville. No, Nashville is extremely fortunate to have a rig of small municipaties which corral development into the centtral core. How much change have you seen other than highway improvements, in density on Franklin Pike from I 440 to Brentwood. Schools, churches, yes and older homes demoed and built into estate homes, but has it gotten denser? Not to my eyes.

Sorry, but I somewhat disagree with you. There is a great deal of existing suburban construction thet is going to remain as such for many, many more decades. No one is going to be able to tear out 1950s through 1970s neighnorhoods with their countless existing ranch and box dwellings. Density is not going to change rapidly there. Take Harding Road for example, Those 2 story boxes lining it from I 65 to Nolensville Road are there immovably. If it were practical to build more densely there, it already would have been done. Same is true of the sea of neighborhoods around Old Hickory Lake. Secondly, the vast acres of hills along 1 24 in forested slopes aren't going to change much either. It costs too much to bring in inrasructure there and you have to srape sites clean to rock to get reasonable multifamily density. Significant development like that is environmentally criiminal IMO. That is happening out I 40 towards Bellvue, but there is plenty of room to grow without going further out. No, I think the density that Urbanplaneters desire is going to continue sprouting along older arterials replacing ageing commercial and vacant industrial. Nashville may be growing rapidly, but there is a plethera of room to grow closer in. I think that larger size lots will be the logical best use of land off the main arterials, largely forested or farmland and not served by city services already . IMO, development hungry folks on the forum are going to be disappointed beyond the outside of Briley Parkway. The bulk of Nashville's growth will remain close in.

Why? I live on the very edge of the county on 50 acres. I have no desire to have a bunch of subdivisions cluttering up the countryside and ruining what is left of my dark skies. Put density in areas that get sewer and water. Maury County does not need more urban sprawl.

These would be unacceptable out here where i live in Columbia. We have better zoning. 5 acre minimum lots.

little boxes all full of tickytac. Disappointingly unimaginative.

What a waste of land in the upper left corner.

I guess my question Mark, is why didn't they match the original brick color in the first place? It is a relatively simple matter.

They have with the surface parking lot just up the hill across Church. How many decades has it been since that block burned?

Wow, is this one ever butt ugly? So many of the complexes going up around toen ar so whacky looking. Thank heavens there are more of the larger ones designed by better firms. Too much cookiecutter rows IMO

Not impressed.

Do you think we could swap the roundabout for the Bermuda Triangle? it would be a vast improvement. Crossing the Styx is sort of like entering the gates of Hell as the story goes.

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I wouldn't complain too much. I see the roads in Kentucky are littered with the rotting carcases and skeletal remains of roadkill., often more than one dead deer at the same location. as well as lots of highway debris. I really see nothing anywhere near as bad on our Tennessee roads. I really do not see how Nashville can possibly cleanup downtown interstates around the Metro area as anyone trying to pick it up is risking their lives by the insanely dangerous speeds here. Likewise, if the traffic is jammed and slow enough on them, they can't clean it up either. i don't know why Kentucky has such roadkill and Tennesse doesn't.

New buildings on Broadway...the new Pigeon Forge annex of Middle Tennessee.

I remember being on the design team for that one back in 1967. i had to build a big model of the whole hill before the interstate was built.

I'm not particularly impressed with any of these type stores or for that matter Walmart. I would really like to see stores more like Mazzaro's Italian market in St. Petersberg, Florida. These behemoth boxes have homogenized and diminished excellence in finding wonderful quality goods. Pretty much the big grocery chains are equaly boring to me.

Whatever happend to the idea of a parl on the riverbanks by the rail line toeards the Sylman Evens interstate bridges? There is a huge wood expanse where the flooded out homeless camps were decades ago. I see no need to make Ascend solely a park area.

Even for a diverging diamond, this one is quite complicated.