FatherLand

@bwithers1 regarding your 'quiet user' description of a recording studio...does that mean that we can assume that a recording studio has such amazing soundproofing that the music played within is not audible to neighbors? I don't know anything about music studios, and my initial thought was a music studio would be VERY LOUD

@bwithers1 thank you very much for the info. Question on the recording studio @ 1700 Fatherland...is it a done deal? Does this fit within the existing zoning thus no community involvement is required? Or will there be meetings and discussions?

Ha agreed their selection is hands down amazing. I try to get in and out in thirty seconds to keep the cigarette smoke clothing absorption rate under 13%

No sir. That corner is just a black hole. I remember when the gentleman moved out a few years ago, I assumed it would be redeveloped any time. That was 3-4 years ago and NOTHING. The house across the street was sold and someone put blue vinyl siding on the exterior ... I could have swore that was anti-vinyl siding territory. And of course the beer store, I love the beer store and it's had a few paint jobs over the years. I heard at one point a developer is trying to piece all the parcels at 14th and Fatherland together for a large development therefore it would be a multi-year wait. So long story short ... no, nothing at all shaking with it. Which is so crazy, how/why would someone hold onto a house and pay taxes & upkeep, and hold it through one of the most amazing run-ups in 37206 property values....and just keeps holding, year after year. It defies logic that spot hasn't been sold and then developed.

Thank you everyone, I feel special that folks are asking lowly ol' ME about a project! I remember a few years ago I stumbled across a proposed development for the "gully" off of 14th and Fatherland, there is a long vacant stone home and the beer store. This development would have been "down in the holler" and would have been built up to Fatherland, something like what they've done in the gully and built up to Shelby in that same area. I reached out to the developers and said it was an interesting development and I'd be glad to be a "neighborhood liaison"...I'd also be interested in something similar here. I feel all too often it's "us vs them", residents vs developers and it results in Lose Lose scenarios. If there is a person from the resident side who acts as a mediator, it could help both parties.

A few initial thoughts on this: 1) My first reaction was "OH HELL NO"...Imagine the noise! I hear/read horror stories about loud bands as neighbors 2) Then I thought...hmm, I know nothing about music recording or studios...and quite possibly, a true production studio would have world class soundproofing. 3) Then I looked at the website for Q Prime Artist management and realized they manage some truly famous musicians and bands...and thought, wow, how amazing to periodically have famous musicians casually strolling by our house and into a studio, and walking to The Post for a coffee...this could be amazing! 4) And I thought some more, and realized it might be a good fit...one of the big variables in the past has been parking...for a music studio, the parking needs are much smaller than a hotel and/or bar/restaurant. Much less comings and goings at night. I'm pro-development by default, and I liked the previous idea of a restaurant/bar/hotel. And I CANNOT WAIT for this building to receive some TLC. It's been an eyesore year...after year...after year. So maybe on second thought...this recording studio is a great idea. I dont know yet.

Wow I absolutely have not. Not sure what I think about this one. The community surrounding this building is VERY concerned with its use. The building did sell a few months ago, I didn’t know that until I saw the recent interior demo and looked it up.

Thanks @bwithers1. I asked the gentlemen a few times to make sure I wasn't understanding wrong. He was beginning interior demo, but he seemed to be operating under the premise that the entire structure is coming down. I pointed to the rear addition of the structure, the part that appears much less historically significant, and said, 'you mean the back is being torn down'? He said yes AND the front original church structure also. So I didn't know what to make of it.

Saw a crew @ 1700 Fatherland today and the guy said the ENTIRE structure is in the process of demolition. I didn’t see any kind of demo permit pulled. Anyone know anything? The listing also no longer appears active.

Wow! Kind of a retro aesthetic...I don't "love" it but I would LOVE to see it upgraded as shown, great news and hope it moves forward

I have a confession - I'm 'pro-cone'. I can 100% understand why folks want to do this. Right or wrong, I can certainly understand their frustration

Separate and unrelated topic that's Gulch related but is sure to have an impact on us Eastsiders...but it looks like we won "2nd Place" in the Amazon running, we're getting 5,000 jobs in an East Coast hub in the Gulch...surely this is A) Bad for traffic and B) GREAT for our property values?

This feels like the most exciting time in East Nash in years. So many projects: Publix, Chase, BoomBozz is open, Eastland kroger is doubling in size, the Airbnb by Bongo, Holiday Jones and Bridal Suites on Main, the expanded Fat Bottom, Bill Martin’s for sale, the Tailgate Brewery building is now fully occupied, Dollar General 5 Points sold and is for lease, Family Wash for lease, the large staffing building next door for lease, and tons and tons of stuff I’m forgetting. And the elephant in the room that could transform the gateway to East Nashville - Envision Cayce.

How in the world were you able to read that, "Compactor by Publix"?? You have amazing eyesight. Here's the 3rd PDF, 3rd page, veerrry bottom: Philadelphia something, PT XXX, Compactor by Publix

Wow. Ive known this day has been coming. What in the world will end up here I wonder.

Alot of cleanup is happening today at the 5 Points Family Dollar...parking lot trash has been cleaned up, 2 dumpsters are onsite and a crew is cleaning out interior. 2 large for lease signs are up. Appears they're moving quickly to get this prime spot in new hands. Are there any hints/rumours of who could go here, or what kind of place would make sense here? Also a fair amount of exterior cleaning has been done at 1700 Fatherland, looks like they're making a renewed push to sell/develop. Windows have been covered up, growth removed, basic lawn maintenance has been increased. http://www.loopnet.com/Listing/15553213/1700-Fatherland-St-Nashville-TN/

Thanks Brett. When we think of "Envision Cayce" does that not include CWA Plaza fronting Shelby? It looks like it ends at Sylvan?

Mrs. Winners on Gallatin/Eastland finally getting facelift...also the new 3 story bldg by Bongo is going to be “Van Dyke Beverage and Bed”, and the vacant grass lot by Bongo is going to be the 5 Points Outdoor Market starting in 2 weeks

Does anyone have any intel at all about tenants coming to this development?

Looks very true

I feel that is a pretty compelling argument for the historic commission to allow new construction. Although, I would say a high percentage of folks who are proposing construction projects in the historic overlay could produce some similarly compelling arguments, when you want something done and are financially incentivized to have it approved, you can manufacture some compelling talking points. But this seems 100% legit.

Thank you very much for the summary Aron. My personal opinion is the concept of the 'tall skinny' has become so pervasive and negative in the lexicon of the average East Nashvillian, whether new here or grew up here...that in this day and age we (they) incorporate LITERALLY any East Nash development negatively. We have associated 'development' with 'negativity'. Almost like instead of a presumption of innocence, a development starts with a presumption of guilt and has to prove otherwise. Yes, even though 'tall skinnies' are residential, this groupthink lumps in commercial development into this mindset.

Yes I definitely used hyperbole. Rephrase: “The East Nashville Facebook group generally and anecdotally tends to skew moderately anti-development.”

For what it's worth, the feedback was surprisingly positive on the East Nash Facebook group, and that group is almost 100% anti-development. The consensus was this was a good area for this type of structure...contrasted to the 3 story building right next to Bongo Java, which seems to overpower the space, the building on Main St is a perfect spot for something like this.

This is probably a boring comment, but in our alley behind Fatherland there are red labels by our storm drains that looks like it says "Do Not Plate" any ideas?