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I see this getting some sort of naming rights option as it's coming to fruition, or even get divided up. Westcourt will probably just be the placeholder/DBA.

These statistics are promising and comparable to what an airline would consider a lucrative/busy flight route. A family member of mine works with American Airlines at the corporate level in Dallas flying constantly to Orlando. He mentioned one day the average flight between the two cities averages 84% sold, which the company considers high volume and successful considering the numerous flights per day and multiple airlines offering service on this route. So with Brightline's 16 trains a day competing with multiple airlines and cars, this should be a huge deal considering a major airline considers this number lucrative.

Yeah, an article came out yesterday of the owner shutting down the Dunwoody/Atlanta location. I'm pretty sure all locations will shutter in the next few days based on all the wage theft and money laundering allegations.

Yes! Such great examples of densifying suburban environments and redevelopment. Despite how busy our tourism corridor can be, there are still many underutilized/abandoned lots/parking littered throughout. These serve as examples to other areas of town and even other cities. It seems the City and County have stopped waiting on large hotel and tourism developers and likely allowed the conversion to residential. Or if residential developers came at the city and county begging with plans in place.

Long Post: Not sure if this would be the appropriate thread, but it is all in the Attractions Corridor. A few nights ago on my way home I took a detour and drove around the corridor after noticing the large number of housing and apartment buildings/complexes completed and under construction. It’s pretty impressive, the number of units all these projects will add for a submarket. These below are within the City of Orlando. (Please excuse the the poor quality and lighting in some of these photos, I took these on my phone at night, and I’m posting on my phone m) I will start from the northernmost site and head south. Bainbridge The Grande - wedge parcel bordered by Major Blvd, Caravan Ct and Grand National Dr. 5-story wrapped around parking deck. ~ 300-350 units (based on similar scale projects) Major Blvd looking west towards Grand National Drive Liviano Grand National - Large parcel framed by Oak Ridge Rd and out parcels to the north, Adriana Ave to the west, Altamira Dr to the south and International Drive storefronts to the east. South of the Outlets. Three 4-story buildings with parking garage and 7-story Townplace Suites by Marriott property. ~ 300-325 units (based on similar-scale projects). Grand Palm Dr looking south Overlook Ct looking east towards Townplace property. Deseo Grande - retro-fitted southern portion of Dezerland Park(Festival Bay Mall) parking lot. 2 phase: phase 1 completed, phase 2 under construction. 5-story wrapped around parking structure. 365 units (Phase 1) ~365 units (Phase 2 estimation). 730 total. Phase 1 completed. Looking south, phase 1 on the right, phase 2 under construction on the left. Triton Cay - Carrier Dr and Lakehurst Drive(where the proposed roundabout will be). This has been completed for some time now. 4-story wrapped around parking structure. 346 units. Carrier Dr and Lakehurst Dr (future roundabout) *The parcel directly south (Esh Orlando LLC on the map) was fenced and cleared. Likely additional multi family housing since this developer has proposed other multi family housing developments in Metro Orlando.* *EDIT: The parcel to the south is the second phase of this development, permitted under 'Silver Hill Phase 2" with The City for a total of 511 units, or and additional 165 units. Bainbridge Universal Sand Lake (under constitution) - SE corner of Carrier Dr and Universal Blvd. Likely 5-story wrapped around parking deck (based on 5-story elevator shafts). ~ 300-350 units (based on similar scale projects) Looking south from The Pointe Hotel parking lot. Carrier Dr at the Universal Blvd intersection (stopped at a red light). Legacy Universal - SW Corner of Carrier Dr and Universal Blvd intersection. This has been completed for sometime now. 350 units. Looking east on Carrier Dr, Legacy West to the right. I’ll keep this post just for the City of Orlando portion of the Attractions Corridor/North I-Drive since south I-Drive has about the same, or more, number of developments underway and completed. I will be on the look out for more. These are a pretty big deal considering this area severely lacked housing. This area will see up to ~2,500 units total come on the market and within the City. This also doesn’t count the recently completed and under construction properties in Dr Phillips/Turkey Lake Rd.

Lack of land available land resorting to large redevelopment projects, high population density, more urbanized environment. All of this has created a critical mass for quite a long time now in a place like Broward, which is close to 2 million people alone.

We have come a long way in Orlando whether we want to acknowledge this or not. These are all pretty impressive changes to corridors. We still have more to improve but this urbanism and retrofitting has done more than tall buildings would. Just my thoughts.

So Aeromexico, Avianca, and Copa (If I read correctly) will be moving over to Terminal C. I feel like United would be a good fit to transfer over to Terminal C after the expansion since many partner international airlines are all there and would make a better transfer hub. Delta has really taken advantage of this capitalizing on the Sky Team international airlines with routes here and with the new Miami route. I have spoken to multiple United Flight attendants where many have hinted on potential international expansion from Orlando within the next two years, although there is no article I have seen stating this. Shifting an airline with numerous flights will help offload the traffic in Terminals A/B, having only Jetblue was so unserious, but it explains the potential route and ops expansion out of Orlando.

Was in downtown for lunch these last few days and saw quite a bit of workers at this site. Once the screen is on and containers painted it will resemble the rendering. Shouldn't be too far off.

Yes, the holiday decorations for lake eola have improved so much over the years and and kept the park pretty busy even on colder nights.

I highly doubt that will sway Insomniac Events away from this site considering the group has quite a lot invested into Orlando and the site is relatively efficient in having high capacity. And with roughly 150,000 to 200,000 people attending per day it is not too much of an issue when walking in groups. I have heard mixed opinions, positives and negatives, between EDC Orlando being "within a city" vs EDC being in a motor speedway in the desert 16 miles away from the strip.

That's great to hear! You actaully already see that happening with a few venues around downtown offering daytime vibes. I think added spaces for remote work and incubation spaces will go a long way.

Many for EDC will take the multiple shuttles that will be coming from the tourist corridor, get dropped off or rideshare. There are multiple garages around downtown Orlando, mainly along the grapefruit lymmo route, and will take it to OBT and Central. From what I read it, they have a recommended list of garages that are 55 west, central garage, Geico garage, City Commons, 200 S orange, Jefferson garage. I doubt the garages will get too busy, but the festival has grown significantly and the downtown garage/Lymmo route has become much more popular since it's cheaper.

I personally don't see them dumping the Sunshine corridor. It's certainly high-priced, but will be incredibly high reward with significant real estate opportunity and convention business, etc. The business traveler is such a sweet spot for them. It may even end up being an overpass/elevated rail($$$$$$) all down or over Taft Vineland road which I believe is county-owned/maintained.

This is a really good angle. All the 8-15 story apartment buildings have done a lot for the downtown area over the years,

https://hainescityedc.com/resources/1-135.pdf Maybe this was already shared but this is a good FDOT Flyer showing the 7 potential stops including: Loughman Davenport Haines City Lake Alfred Aburndale Polk Parkway Lakeland This addition makes so much sense since hundreds of thousands live near these areas. It is wild to see how serious these talks have become in such a short period of time. I truly believe Brightline has been the catalyst in the state of Florida. It made it (train/mass transit) tangible and now so many want a part of it. Yes, Florida is very car centric but it has relatively densely populated corridors and what Brightline has kickstarted is a type of retro fitting in enhancing what we already have in place (existing rail corridors running through population centers).

Ummm, there are definitely homeless people in Boston, and quite daring ones. I was in Boston in May and was a little shocked to see a lot of empty spaces, but there were a lot of families and tourists for all the graduations happening. Also, the North End was rowdy AF with cars and truck honking their horns and fratty behavior. Every city has that.

I am already receiving Zillow ads for rental units, so it's certainly coming soon. Could be a lack of workers?

Were they all from the first day? I had a friend from Miami take it up to Orlando on the first day and it did take longer. The trip back arrived at the Miami station ahead of schedule.

I am hoping the pricing is tiered a little better over time to the different stations, it will definitely help

I do believe TDT should absolutely help some of this. For the amount of money they want to pump into the Convention Center this could fund a nice chunk of this route and help create a better marketing and investment tool for the OCCC. A much better investment move.

The Shoma Bazar in Doral is nice! So something similar would be a nice addition and attraction to the downtown area.

Not bad at all for an airport with no central/major airline hub dominating.

I believe with this now open, things can move faster (money) for the additional connections. The first step may be heavy, cumbersome, and time consuming, but it's the first step. The speculation is no longer there now that it's real.

That's annoying. although I am led to believe it may be one of the legacy carriers (likely United) with the ambition they had with using Terminal C as a base to add more routes. Jetblue won that battle, but with the new gates under construction they may take up some of that space. I am hoping Turkish or Qatar add a route soon. Turkish Airlines has already mentioned it with no date set. A rumor went around with local airline workers that Qatar for a moment was accepting resumes for airport staff and flight attendants for a potential Orlando route, but it seems it has not gone anywhere.