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Fair enough, and thanks for your honest response. My apologies if I came off a little to strongly yesterday.

haha, I remember this same conversation a few years ago. I was discussing the term "TND" and how their is nothing traditional about them. But like I said, I'm all about choice, as long as the choice isn't forced upon me. I know all about NU, TND, etc. Lemme ask you a question and answer this as honestly as possible: Say there was a new TND; sidewalks, mixed use buildings, housing of all incomes, commercial and park integration, but the lots for single family homes were 1/2 acre or more. Would you support this project? Thanks

I strongly disagree with that statement. I think NU is very agenda driven, but that's a different topic for another time.

Yeah, I'm all for gentrification.

Let me clarify something. I love the fact that a development can incorporate single family units, apartments, commerical and parks into one development. What I don't like is the fact that people are guilted and/or shamed into liking it or not liking it. I don't like that developers are building homes on lots smaller than the welcome mats on the front porch and claiming that it is to "reduce our carbon footprint" or whatever pc mantra that will make them look "progressive". They're doing it because they are greedy, bottom line. But as I stated previously, there are many consumers that do feel good about themselves buy having a tiny yard. Hey, too each his own, no problem. What I do object to is the condescending , "I'm an enlightened progressive, and you're not" attitude that was evidenced by saying that I like suburban sprawl, because I'm skeptical of NU. That's a very intolenrat opinion to hold.

Don't be so sensitive. This is a message board and on ocassion people will have opinions that differ from your own. I feel that NU is a scam, but I support anyones right to participate in it, as long as I am not forced to. P.S. Being against NU doesn't mean that I support "suburban spraw", that's very condescending. It's not an either/or.

New Urbanism is a ruse and a marketing ploy, itself. Greedy developers can put multiple homes on tiny lots, all under the guise of "environmentalism" "smaller carbon footprint", etc. while buyers who are oriented towards this type of thinking can feel good themselves by doing their part to be "green." It's greed placating guilt. A win/win.

Longhorn and O'Charleys got married and had a kid; they named it Cheddars. lol

Hamburger heresy, I say. lol That place looks really good, but franchising after one location, really? Lemme see how they do for a few years, but it does look good, is it your place?

10 years ago this would have been very exciting, but the quality has gone down so much over the last few years it's a shame. We went to the one in Charlotte for my wife's b'day and it was terrible. Nevertheless, the cache' of the name is good for our city, I suppose.

Mojo's is really bland, fresh, but bland. Five Guys is decent, but they don't melt the cheese or toast the buns; major no-no's. Plus FG's is ridiculously expensive.

Even though I probably couldn't afford to shop there it brought even more cachet to Greenville. This is very disappointing news. Oh, well.

Can you or someone else post it? I didn't get a copy this week.

A cool, hip, trendy upscale market without an ounce of pretense:

Yes, El Pollo Loco was the one that I was really big on, EPC, not so much.

El Pollo Campero already went belly up, the franchisee must have lost a ton of money on that place, it's a really attractive store. We ate there a few times and it just wasn't that good. I had heard/read that they were going to put a 2nd store next to BK in front of Target on Wade Hampton, the building's almost done, but I assume that it's no longer gonna house Campero.

Although we all know it's implied to mean Southwest, it can't explicitly mention Southwest for obvious reasons.

G-man, on city-data you said it was a done deal; if it doesn't pass, I'm coming to your house. lol

Huh? BPS was originally going to go into a new "lifestyle center" on the south side of 14/85, but after the economic collapse, that whole project was shelved. BPS is now going to build at MPTC on Woodruff.

Having been to D & B many times several years ago in Philly, I can assure you it's not intended nor marketed as a "family fun place." What may be confusing some is that their concept takes kids games, i.e arcade games and modifies them towards the 20 and 30 something hip and trendy crowd. To confirm my believe, I researched their website, and nary a picture of a kid was to be found. Even on the games link: http://www.daveandbusters.com/play/default.aspx

Couldn't agree more; it sends a really mixed message, as the "martini" crowd and the kids bowling/arcade are two entirely different demos. Dave and Busters isn't marketed as family friendly; it's target is the hip and trendy 20 and 30 somethings. I dunno about this place; I'll reserve judgment.

Apaladin and G-man, er, I mean citylife are heading up this committee, right.

Contact the Greenville News, this is an embarrassment and disgrace and I think, if given the right amount of attemtion could be a big, minor story. i'm behind you 100% on this one, buddy. Post it on c-d also, get all of the attention to this you can. I can't stand housing developments that clear cut all of the land, that was a major reason my wife and i chose the house that we did; the developer made sure to leave a very significant amount of trees on each lot.

No, they were not. As I stated in my previous post, which you directly quoted, Southwest also turned a profit in '08. http://www.iht.com/articles/2009/01/22/business/23air.php To not offer incentives that would increase air traffic, and directly jobs, just because they feel that "airports don't do that anymore' is asinine. SW only flies to Raleigh in all of the Carolinas. They already serve many markets much smaller than ours, plus we could also derive catchment from Charlotte as well as Columbia and Ashville. Hopefully, the new leadership has more forward thinking then the previous administration.

We need to offer incentives to Low Cost carriers, plain and simple. I fly outta GSP 3x's a month and all of the flights are very busy. We were just named the 3rd most expensive airport in the country, yet again, after Cincinnati and Knoxville. They should make a huge push to get Southwest in here, they're one of, if not the only airlines to turn a profit in '08 and only serve Raleigh in all of the Carolinas. Also, the fact that we're in the top three in yields for Allegient I would really encourage them to fly to more markets then just Florida, and we have a very good precedent with them.