The Vue

[crispin]

What about a game in Atlanta?

Alright, so it was a little bit of hyperbole. Maybe in this respect, we're on par with Atlanta. But Charlotte Bobcats Arena is still a good place to have quiet conversation, even when there's a basketball game in progress.

[schmopperX]

Alright, so it was a little bit of hyperbole. Maybe in this respect, we're on par with Atlanta. But Charlotte Bobcats Arena is still a good place to have quiet conversation, even when there's a basketball game in progress.

That's so true.

[dubone]

. Okay, back to discussing you-know-what.

[solaricfission]

I live in Orlando, and am wondering how tall this tower actually is. We just had a top out on The Vue at Lake Eola. Great looking building but am very jealous that yours is taller and much more intricate than ours.

[schmopperX]

I live in Orlando, and am wondering how tall this tower actually is. We just had a top out on The Vue at Lake Eola. Great looking building but am very jealous that yours is taller and much more intricate than ours.

I think I saw on Emporis when they first had it on there it was 51 stories and 601 ft. but that's probabally not exactly correct.

[uptownliving]

The building permit has it listed as 51 stories and the low to mid 600 ft range sounds about right to me.

[dan326]

Were's the rendering for this ?

[UrbanCharlotte]

on the website www.vuecharlotte.com

[Richhamleigh, DC]

They've got the permit - has anyone seen any activity yet at the site?

Thanks!

[tarheel]

They've got the permit - has anyone seen any activity yet at the site?

Thanks!

It's still a parking lot and a run down building. No activity yet.

[UrbanCharlotte]

Anyone know if they'll be having a groundbreaking ceremony? Supposed to start this month but no dates yet.

When I walked by not too long ago, it was pretty busy inside. Hopefully they're doing better than expected.

[dubone]

We already knew they got these permits, but it is now in the O, listed at $30m. Does anyone know if that is the for the whole structure or just a portion?

http://www.charlotte.com/mld/charlotte/business/16423792.htm

[A2]

No clue, but isn't gorundbreaking scheduled for THIS month??? Any guesses???

A2

[uptownliving]

We already knew they got these permits, but it is now in the O, listed at $30m. Does anyone know if that is the for the whole structure or just a portion?

http://www.charlotte.com/mld/charlotte/business/16423792.htm

Whole struture as in all the way up to the top floor is my understanding. But that is just the concrete structure...none of the upfit...that will come in a later permit.

[dxartist]

We already knew they got these permits, but it is now in the O, listed at $30m. Does anyone know if that is the for the whole structure or just a portion?

http://www.charlotte.com/mld/charlotte/business/16423792.htm

not wanting to sound totally naive, but why do permits cost so much?

Edited January 11, 2007 by dxartist

[dubone]

$30M is the valuation/estimate of the work permitted, not the permit itself. If you're talking about the actual number, and that you think is expensive, then I don't know the answer.

[RaleighHeelsfan]

not wanting to sound totally naive, but why do permits cost so much?

You don't sound naive at all. What I want to know is why it takes so long for these stupid permits to go through.

[nowensone]

$30M is the valuation/estimate of the work permitted, not the permit itself. If you're talking about the actual number, and that you think is expensive, then I don't know the answer.

Does this mean $30M in labor costs (and not raw materials, equipment, etc. costs)?

[uptownliving]

Does this mean $30M in labor costs (and not raw materials, equipment, etc. costs)?

It means $30M in labor and materials to build just the concrete structure with no upfit. This is just for the bare bones structure.

[nowensone]

^ Interesting concept, so the facade and all other interior components are separate from structural ones. Thank you.

[Charlotte_native]

not wanting to sound totally naive, but why do permits cost so much?

Permit fees pay for the work the inspectors from the county put into inspecting the various stages and parts of the project (foundation, framing, rough-ins, etc etc etc). A project like this will have continued and tons of inspections during the construction process so the fees are based on the amount of work the county will put into their part of the project. Permit fees are based on (I have no idea the formula) a percentage of the estimate cost of the project. I've had residential fees (single family) changed/adjusted by the county when projects grow.

Edited January 11, 2007 by Charlotte_native

[swh1972]

There has been discussion related to this project about the construction technique that will be used for The Vue. I've seen a number of TV programs (Discovery Channel, I think) that show a technique that uses of a central structure that forms the concrete, lets it set, and then lifts up into place for the next floor, and the process is repeated. Not sure if this is the same technique that will be used on The Vue, anyone know?

If so, this would be cool to watch in person.

[Mobuchu]

It was talked about earlier in this thread, I think its called tunnel form construction. But yes, The Vue is suppose to use this same technique.

[dxartist]

Permit fees pay for the work the inspectors from the county put into inspecting the various stages and parts of the project (foundation, framing, rough-ins, etc etc etc). A project like this will have continued and tons of inspections during the construction process so the fees are based on the amount of work the county will put into their part of the project. Permit fees are based on (I have no idea the formula) a percentage of the estimate cost of the project. I've had residential fees (single family) changed/adjusted by the county when projects grow.

thanks for the explanation.

[queensguy06]

Well, it is half way through the month and still no word on when the ground breaking will be. Anyone heard any news?