SouthEnd Midrise Projects

[dylansukkert]

1 hour ago, Blue_Devil said:

The only thing I can think of is they are going to start selling sections of the Junction, Spectrum apartments, and the Silos… 

The Junction just feels like a massive waste of a lot of prime real estate. 

[kermit]

More good news from the feds today. $1 billion new grant program for safe streets. Priorities are for peds and bikes first, cars last. State DOTs cannot apply!

Money is intended for either programmatic planning (vision zero) or implementation. Complete streets programs are explicitly mentioned. Submission deadline is Sept 15th.

A few million would do wonders for Southend pedestrian and bike friendliness, particularly in the face of the tsunami of parking about to break over the hood.

Edited May 16, 2022 by kermit

[CLT Development]

1 hour ago, dylansukkert said:

The Junction just feels like a massive waste of a lot of prime real estate. 

I would imagine Junction's time will come and I wouldn't be surprised to see a few other garden style/podium buildings follow suit eventually. My comment was more about South End's development trends as a whole. I would expect South End "proper" to become a high rise only community over the next few years. We might still be talking about Midrises in Gold District and LoSo, but I would expect, with the price per acre reaching to the $20M range high rises going forward.

[KJHburg]

2 hours ago, dylansukkert said:

The Junction just feels like a massive waste of a lot of prime real estate. 

It was one of the first built apartment complexes coming out of the severe Real estate depression 2009/2010 nobody was building hardly anything when they started it.  They got the land for cheap and built a garden style apartment complex.   Rents were substantially lower too.   The original developers from Texas sold it for a good profit maybe 5-6 years ago.   But when it was built nobody was building anything in that immediate area. 

[Prodev]

15 minutes ago, KJHburg said:

It was one of the first built apartment complexes coming out of the severe Real estate depression 2009/2010 nobody was building hardly anything when they started it.  They got the land for cheap and built a garden style apartment complex.   Rents were substantially lower too.   The original developers from Texas sold it for a good profit maybe 5-6 years ago.   But when it was built nobody was building anything in that immediate area. 

Pretty laughable today, but they bought  the 11+ acres for $4.25 million  in 2011 to build the apartments!

[dxartist]

I'm in Chicago today for business (actually Schaumburg but close enough).  Anyway, it would be kinda cool for the farthest south part of South End to have something like this (maybe not quite as big and would have a look that would fit the area).    

[KJHburg]

Wow has this building really popped up.  Tilt up concrete construction is done like this all over Texas especially in the suburbs. 

2825 South Blvd. by the Harris Teeter Scaleybark. 

If was giving awards for landscaping in Southend apartment complexes I would put the Bradham by Lennar Multifamily at the top of the list.  Lots of flowers and many fragrant maybe Gardenias along the Rail Trail side.  I voted this the best landscaped apartment block in Southend.  next door neighbor MAA could learn a a thing or two from them. (not photos as it was not worthy at all)

[dylansukkert]

44 minutes ago, KJHburg said:

Wow has this building really popped up.  Tilt up concrete construction is done like this all over Texas especially in the suburbs. 

2825 South Blvd. by the Harris Teeter Scaleybark. 

If was giving awards for landscaping in Southend apartment complexes I would put the Bradham by Lennar Multifamily at the top of the list.  Lots of flowers and many fragrant maybe Gardenias along the Rail Trail side.  I voted this the best landscaped apartment block in Southend.  next door neighbor MAA could learn a a thing or two from them. (not photos as it was not worthy at all)

If MAA could just get rid of the two hoses that pump rain water out of the garage they have had on the rail trail that would be fantastic. 

[Mgelbach]

Not 100% sure which apartments these are, I'm starting to lose track of all the projects!

[Matthew.Brendan]

 

Gone but not forgotten.

[JRCLT]

 
Gone but not forgotten.
http://content.invisioncic.com/x329420/monthly_2022_06/corner.thumb.jpg.3ba95a1f2fe668635319c9334da2281b.jpg

I was going to say the project where the magnolia was on the corner.

[Matthew.Brendan]

but they would have had to sacrifice a few units! It required literally zero effort to retain a place making amenity that provides intangible community benefit.  on a corner that is already very lively with activity.

what's the corner going to be? leasing office? lobby or gym? even if we do get a retail spot out of it, imagine the shop having such a lovely tree out front for people to sit in the shade and watch the street scene.

maybe they will plant a sapling

[RANYC]

32 minutes ago, Matthew.Brendan said:

but they would have had to sacrifice a few units! It required literally zero effort to retain a place making amenity that provides intangible community benefit.  on a corner that is already very lively with activity.

what's the corner going to be? leasing office? lobby or gym? even if we do get a retail spot out of it, imagine the shop having such a lovely tree out front for people to sit in the shade and watch the street scene.

maybe they will plant a sapling

Believe me, I’m disgusted by this.  Called to complain to division of tree management.  Feckless group.  Wouldn’t be surprised if our arborist is a shill for developers.  What’s our citywide conflicts of interest policy?  And by the way, the new UDO requires mitigation for trees 30” in diameter at breast level.  Like what the hell?  It’s 12” in Jacksonville, FL.  Seems like every 5th sapling around town is dead, yet we chop a robust and healthy shade producing and carbon-ingesting gem of a magnolia, because what, we must cut down every tree in the name of affordability?  Tear down barringer/hall house in name of affordability?  Sorry, venting.

Edited June 28, 2022 by RANYC

[KJHburg]

this Quarter district over on W Tremont in the Wilmore area is just going bonkers.  2 apartment complexes going up.  Steel framed townhomes going up by Toll Brothers.  Renovations for retail and creative office.  

Last photo is the failed Fulcrum condo site which wont be condos anytime soon.  

[Guest]

16 hours ago, RANYC said:

Believe me, I’m disgusted by this.  Called to complain to division of tree management.  Feckless group.  Wouldn’t be surprised if our arborist is a shill for developers.  What’s our citywide conflicts of interest policy?  And by the way, the new UDO requires mitigation for trees 30” in diameter at breast level.  Like what the hell?  It’s 12” in Jacksonville, FL.  Seems like every 5th sapling around town is dead, yet we chop a robust and healthy shade producing and carbon-ingesting gem of a magnolia, because what, we must cut down every tree in the name of affordability?  Tear down barringer/hall house in name of affordability?  Sorry, venting.

Tree Management is a predominantly operational program and has no say or interaction of any kind with privately owned trees on privately owned land. They do not create policy, that is the planning department’s gig. Do not harass the City Arborist due to your frustration with the machine overall, she is a delightful person that has no regular interaction with any of the city’s private partners. 

[RANYC]

6 hours ago, MothBeast said:

Tree Management is a predominantly operational program and has no say or interaction of any kind with privately owned trees on privately owned land. They do not create policy, that is the planning department’s gig. Do not harass the City Arborist due to your frustration with the machine overall, she is a delightful person that has no regular interaction with any of the city’s private partners. 

Within tree mgmt, I spoke with the office of the chief urban forester and that person is a guy.  I called to complain and have every right to complain about an outcome in my community that I don't like, without cowering because I'm not yet schooled and stewed in the vagaries and intricacies of the bureaucracy.  My interactions weren't harassment, although I suspect there are plenty in the bureaucracy who believe any outreach and challenge to be harassment...unless those engaging are developers perhaps.  

As for Tree Management, the Urban Forestry group have been heavily involved in advising tree policies within the UDO.    So not just operational.

Edited June 29, 2022 by RANYC

[Guest]

Tree Management is the city’s operational group and is distinctly different from the Urban Forestry program. You are correct in directing your ire towards that program as it is in the Planning Department. Not trying to start something, you were mistaken and I did not want even more citizen anger directed to a group that does great work and had no say over what I agree are insufficient policies. Can’t expect even those directly in the middle of it all to understand bureaucracy, I meant no harm and wish you well.

[KJHburg]

Food hall proposed on South Tryon now will be Atlanta based brewery. 

https://charlotte.axios.com/302273/proposed-food-hall-in-south-end-reimagined-as-spot-for-an-atlanta-based-brewery/

Food halls are a lot harder to put together than most think evidently as that is the 2nd food hall in Southend to be changed to something else (other being in the Line) 

[TGIBridays]

1 hour ago, KJHburg said:

Food hall proposed on South Tryon now will be Atlanta based brewery. 

https://charlotte.axios.com/302273/proposed-food-hall-in-south-end-reimagined-as-spot-for-an-atlanta-based-brewery/

Food halls are a lot harder to put together than most think evidently as that is the 2nd food hall in Southend to be changed to something else (other being in the Line) 

Bummer.  I was excited about the food hall since it was just around the corner from my office.  I enjoyed  Monday Night Brewing's beers back when I lived in Atlanta, so I guess it's not all a loss. 

[kayman]

12 hours ago, KJHburg said:

Food hall proposed on South Tryon now will be Atlanta based brewery. 

https://charlotte.axios.com/302273/proposed-food-hall-in-south-end-reimagined-as-spot-for-an-atlanta-based-brewery/

Food halls are a lot harder to put together than most think evidently as that is the 2nd food hall in Southend to be changed to something else (other being in the Line) 

I went there when I used to be in Atlanta. It's alright.  It seems like everything that was or has a presence in Atlanta wants to now be in Charlotte.

[jednc]

4 hours ago, kayman said:

I went there when I used to be in Atlanta. It's alright.  It seems like everything that was or has a presence in Atlanta wants to now be in Charlotte.

Present company included it seems. 

[Mid South NC]

Sexy S.E. Charlotte! Looking pretty sweet from SouthEnd - Uptown, just wait until Queensbridge and the Enterprise site start construction!

[KJHburg]

the art and murals of Southend 

and here is a photo of a mid rise building so we stay on topic LOL   will these cows be relocated when Cousins begins their development?

[Reverie39]

Love anything that promotes neighborhood and city identity. We need more SOUTH END and QUEEN CITY all over the place. Extra love for the light rail train on the mural above, I think the Blue Line has also become a big part of South End's identity.

[SpiritOf76]

On 7/12/2022 at 9:48 PM, Reverie39 said:

Love anything that promotes neighborhood and city identity. We need more SOUTH END and QUEEN CITY all over the place. Extra love for the light rail train on the mural above, I think the Blue Line has also become a big part of South End's identity.

Less Queen, more Hornets Nest