Downtown Raleigh's Future

[KJHburg]

 

 

 

Downtown Raleigh Alliance

 

 

 

Quick facts on Downtown Raleigh residents - - 19K+ residents live within 1 mile of DTR - Median age is 31.7 years old - Average household size is 1.46 people - 40% of the population is between the ages of 20-34

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[KJHburg]

More from their meeting today Downtown Raleigh Alliance

Downtown Raleigh Alliance

There’s high demand to live downtown with an occupancy rate of 94% and 2,899 residential units under construction today. This means we have more residential units under construction in 2023 than at any time in our history! #StateofDTR2023

Edited September 13, 2023 by KJHburg

[KJHburg]

Here is where you can download or view the the State of Downtown Raleigh report.  Personally I love the way they present this tax revenue per acre for example.  Very good report.  What Raleigh may lack in tall high rises compared to Charlotte I think it makes up for in streetscape and pedestrian experience.  

State of Downtown Raleigh 2023

All the residential development is great for the downtown area.  First time I have seen the stat on how much the State of NC has in office space (3.5 M sq ft) 

[Jones_]

On 9/14/2023 at 2:09 PM, KJHburg said:

All the residential development is great for the downtown area.  First time I have seen the stat on how much the State of NC has in office space (3.5 M sq ft) 

For what its worth, the chatter is again to move offices out near the fairgrounds. Parts of DEQ are looking to be moved so make space for DPS in Archdale (the DEQ that won't fit in Green Square.  the borg and the Admin building are on the chopping block, with Admin being a rebuild (that would take a few years) and the borg future plan unknown. so no net gain for downtown but a substantial reconfiguration nonetheless. Always a hope to sell off to more private projects since State employees mostly don't want to be downtown (a few do like me, but most never leave the campus) and therefore contribute little to downtown spending and such. They just require several half empty parking decks taking up space that that could be used better. 

[carolina1792]

City of Raleigh has selected a developer to design and build a 500-room hotel on Fayetteville Street in front of the performance art center. The city will start the negotiation process soon. A budget will be authorized tomorrow. 

[carolina1792]

550-room Omni Hotel and Resort has been proposed on Fayetteville Street. The process to negotiate with the developer has started.  

 

Update: "Omni Hotels and Resorts plans to build a 550-room hotel featuring a rooftop pool, spa, and meeting space. It will be built on a parking lot across from the Martin Marietta Center for the Performing Arts. The 27-story hotel will be about as tall as the Truist tower. Raleigh city council selected the developer to build a new luxury hotel downtown to allow for bigger conventions."

Edited September 19, 2023 by carolina1792
Updated details.

[RALNATIVE]

3 hours ago, carolina1792 said:

500-room Omni Hotel and Resort has been proposed on Fayetteville Street. The process to negotiate with the developer has started.  

An Omni is a decent top tier brand for downtown, but this will be a beautiful hotel.

 

 

[dmccall]

Looks like this is the City of Raleigh's RFP Site A (the one across Salisbury from the Residence Inn, and was anticipated to be "up to 40 stories". 

[Jones_]

So the Omni is going to block the view between the Capitol and Memorial? Not sure that's a good move. For a city with relatively few 'thats cool' items, the book ends of a Greek revival Capitol and a Classical revival performing arts center are among the best tandem building sets I can think of in the SE. Akin to the US Capitol and Lincoln Memorial tandem on a smaller and less renowned scale. 

[J.Kirk]

7 minutes ago, Jones_ said:

So the Omni is going to block the view between the Capitol and Memorial? Not sure that's a good move. For a city with relatively few 'thats cool' items, the book ends of a Greek revival Capitol and a Classical revival performing arts center are among the best tandem building sets I can think of in the SE. Akin to the US Capitol and Lincoln Memorial tandem on a smaller and less renowned scale. 

It's not going to block the view between these places, because this development is only taking up one of the two blocks. The other block will be developed later on.

[Jones_]

1 minute ago, J.Kirk said:

It's not going to block the view between these places, because this development is only taking up one of the two blocks. The other block will be developed later on.

Got any site plans or something I can look at? The only article I read said Salisbury to Wilmington which would block the view. 

[J.Kirk]

Just now, Jones_ said:

Got any site plans or something I can look at? The only article I read said Salisbury to Wilmington which would block the view. 

Per this rendering, there will be a skinny plaza between the hotel and other development. 

[Rufus]

12 hours ago, J.Kirk said:

Per this rendering, there will be a skinny plaza between the hotel and other development. 

Furthermore, just to use the DTRaleigh Forum, Johnathan Melton has said the two City-owned parcels in front of the PAC will be open space, and that they will determine next steps on the other parcel in the next few weeks. He mentioned he is in favor of resubmitting an RFI for multifamily mixed-use. 

[Jones_]

23 hours ago, J.Kirk said:

Per this rendering, there will be a skinny plaza between the hotel and other development. 

Got it, thanks. 

[dmccall]

The immediate vicinity for RFP B, though, is Commercial and Tourism use. It makes no sense to put residential there.

[Rufus]

2 hours ago, dmccall said:

The immediate vicinity for RFP B, though, is Commercial and Tourism use. It makes no sense to put residential there.

I would disagree. Sure, from a pure zoning and use perspective, Fayetteville Street has been the commercial center. But, I think what we are seeing, not just in Raleigh, but nationally, is a desire to beef up commercial districts with residential, and in fact, with the rise of hybrid working (regardless of how many companies continue to push for back to the office), I think it's even more valuable to put up residential in commercial districts. It's only within the last 15 years we have seen residential make such a push, and with PNC Plaza and Charter Square both having sizable residential with office, I think that makes sense here. 

[KJHburg]

While preCovid it made sense to market that other block for office now I think more mixed uses like residential would be great there.  Maybe even a smaller hotel to add to the big Omni hotel planned across the street.  

[KJHburg]

The proposal the city of Raleigh picked for Moore Square East includes local developers and Greystar which is the largest apartment management firm in the country,

Here is the proposal and combines high rise apartment market rate tower,  affordable housing component, a new Raleigh Rescue Mission and possible grocery store and hotel.

Redevelopment of Moore Square East and South | Raleighnc.gov

Redevelopment of Moore Square East and South - Loden East RFP (usgovcloudapi.net)   detail plans here   Looks like a 30 plus story high rise apartment tower.  In Charlotte they have built the 33 story Ascent Uptown apartment tower. 

 

[KJHburg]

finally this new Raleigh City Hall aka Civic Plaza will get underway very soon.  It shrunk to 17 stories from 20 but that is 2 floors more than the Charlotte City Hall !

Civic Campus | Raleighnc.gov   read about it under the design.  

[Jones_]

On 10/9/2023 at 6:59 PM, KJHburg said:

The proposal the city of Raleigh picked for Moore Square East includes local developers and Greystar which is the largest apartment management firm in the country,

Here is the proposal and combines high rise apartment market rate tower,  affordable housing component, a new Raleigh Rescue Mission and possible grocery store and hotel.

Redevelopment of Moore Square East and South | Raleighnc.gov

Redevelopment of Moore Square East and South - Loden East RFP (usgovcloudapi.net)   detail plans here   Looks like a 30 plus story high rise apartment tower.  In Charlotte they have built the 33 story Ascent Uptown apartment tower. 

 

Wouldn't trust Greystar to do anything but make themselves money. Smell a tad corrupt to me anyway after apparently landing prime State owned parcels not once, but twice in Raleigh without any RFP process (Elan City Center and off Pullen)

[KJHburg]

Historical Oakwood area and around the Governors Mansion.  I am glad these historical houses were saved as many were threatened as I know the Heck House was that was restored by NC Realtors Association.

 

[KJHburg]

when I saw this crane I had to investigate it is for Trammel Crow's Alexan apartments on N Harrington St.

""Construction is about to go vertical on a 7-story multifamily building in Raleigh's Glenwood South.

Dallas-based Trammell Crow Residential started construction on Alexan Glenwood South in May and has started pouring concrete for the two-level parking garage. The $63 million project is on track to open in January 2025, according to Managing Director Robert Brooks.

The development is situated on nearly an acre at 401 W. Lane and 219 N. Harrington streets just north of the Link Apartments""

from the Triangle Biz Journal   Just down the street from the Publix at Peace.  

[KJHburg]

Miscellaneous downtown Raleigh photos. 

what happened to the Krispy Kreme iconic sign did it get blown by the wind? 

[KJHburg]

did you know this 320 West tower had its own webcam?  I did not

320 West South Street - Capital Square - Raising capital, buildings and expectations

Multivista - Webcam Embed