NFKjeff
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5 hours ago, mintscraft56 said:
DId this come with any renderings? I'd be interested to see what they had in mind.
I am not sure. If it did I don't have access to them.
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Correct. Not too long ago, when the Federal Government said they were considering building a new Courthouse downtown they actually floated a plan to close a section of Monticello Ave.
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14 hours ago, mintscraft56 said:
Still have them?
I have one, and so does my dad. That was a very memorable implosion to witness. I wish they could have saved the old girl, but alas, when the Federal Govt. wants a new building, they are going to build it.
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2 hours ago, EJ_LEWIS said:
NFK Jeff I guess we are the old timers. I remember a lot of the carnage of the late 60s, 70s and even the 80s. My dad and I saw the implosion of the Monticello Hotel early in the morning in 1976. I was born in 1961 at the now non-existent Norfolk Community Hospital that use to sit next to NSU.
I was there that day as well. I got a couple of bricks after the dust cleared.
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1 hour ago, baobabs727 said:
kind of you to apologize to our resident, beloved youngster, but need I remind you that "the quoted poster" has a name: @ONCE1stBlvd
query: were you in Norfolk in the 50's and 60's, and if so, did you participate in the carnage? all of this seems personal for you.
Yes, I was in Norfolk in the 60's, as I was born in old Leigh Hospital in 1962, so I was too young to participate in the "carnage". To my knowledge, neither did any of my relatives. No, it is not personal. The only thing that bothers me in the least about such posts is their repetitive nature. It's almost a Pavlovian reaction when old pictures of downtown are posted. I understand though, as it is what the images bring to mind for most people.
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10 hours ago, mintscraft56 said:
I just found the pictures online. I didn't know what to label it as so I just put that for a title.
Isn't this the history page? Excuse me for posting pictures of 1920s Norfolk AND the destruction of said Norfolk.
Let me just make a comment for a second, I see like 3 different posts wanting me to post stuff about "The future" instead of the renewal. But I don't think some of y'all understand that this is the history page. Im focusing on the past here because this page is litterly the place to do it. So excuse me for posting historical photos of Norfolk and its destruction.
mintscraft,
I apologize to you. I was not intending to single you out. It is just a recurring thing that occurs often when old b&w phots of downtown are posted. The commentary usually goes straight to the regret and shame of what happened to many old buildings during the period of "urban renewal." It is understandable, albeit predictable. We continue to lament.
I enjoy your contributions to this site, and again offer my sincere apology.
4 hours ago, urbanlife said:You do realize you are welcome to post anything you find interesting about Norfolk's history. If there is something you come across that you think is worth sharing, please do.
You are quite right. I will consider doing just that. I was mostly trying to remind the quoted poster that the history of Norfolk did not begin and end with the efforts of urban renewal in the 60's and 70's as he suggested.
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3 hours ago, ONCE1stBlvd said:
Sigh...... "...choose to comment on" ??
Isn't this THE history of Norfolk? Anything else would be hella new my guy and nothing worth talking about. Plus, not for nothing my guy but there's only so much actual history left in Norfolk. This was Norfolk's doing.
There are other facets of the history of Norfolk. I get it, believe me I do, there was massive destruction of buildings in the early sixties, many of which could have and should have been saved from the wrecking ball. It is oft repeated here. It is too bad that it happened, but there are other aspects of this cities history of which you seem to be unaware. The entire city was burned to the ground by the British Navy (save for St. Paul's Episcopal church,) on New Years eve of 1776.
The City was taken over by the military during WW I, changing the entire complexion of the Hampton Roads area going forward. Neither of those are hella new, but both caused great upheaval for Norfolk, and the region.
That's not to mention the effects of segregation and massive resistance to integration during the 1960's and '70's. Believe me, there are other interesting, and meaningful events which took place here.
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True it is in Norfolk's history, but it is not the entirety of Norfolk's history, just the part that most people choose to comment on.
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Keep on beating the dead horse. We get it.
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On 4/27/2024 at 1:20 AM, mintscraft56 said:
She'll be pretty tall for the area shes in. Taller than the courthouse!
Heres a video
Nice looking building. Another quality design from the people at WPA.
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That proposed casino in Petersburg definitely does not kill any casino aspirations locally. It's first phase is a 200 room hotel, event center, and gaming area. It would be in an entirely different market. It may take Cordish and or Smith out of any local project, but not necessarily so.
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I never liked her, and I don't see that ever changing.
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4 hours ago, BFG said:
Yes. There’s at least one brewery over there, Afterglow, and I believe another one opened in the old Bold Mariner space. There’s also Chicken Salad Chick, Sanctuary tacos, and Biscuit Belly, although I’m not sure if the latter is open yet. All three are really good.
Biscuit Belly is open. I ate there on Sunday. It was very good.
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Bummer.
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8 hours ago, mintscraft56 said:
How the hell do you not know the size of the Arena. There are like 2 millions pictures of it, to plan there the size is specifically TOLD TO YOU so you can effectively plan your event. Its like getting a size small T-Shirt when your a Large. Did they just not check the size tag? Not only this but why the heck would you wait mere hours before your show. Had it been cancelled BEFORE fans flew in from other states it would have been fine but hours? When people are basically sitting outside the doors already?
BS excuses. I like their songs but this was a big mistake for them. Gonna have lots of angry people. At the same time maybe this is a wakeup call for Norfolk to get a damn bigger arena.It had nothing to do with the size of the arena. They sold about 60% of the available seats. This was a stunt to both save face, and get free publicity for the remainder of the tour. They obviously need all the publicity they can gin-up.
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Not what I read yesterday. The article I read yesterday said it was to be filmed in Virginia Beach. I will post a link if I find it.
2 hours ago, BFG said:That made me raise an eyebrow too. When the story was first announced a few years ago, he said he really wanted to set it here. I know Richmond gets a lotta film and TV productions and from what I understand being off 95 is one reason.
But I can't see Pharrell not shooting at least one scene down here for the very reasons you mentioned.
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11 hours ago, Urbanlooker said:
I wouldn't be too stuck on the May date cutting off Carnival from using Norfolk. As Carnival has stated that Norfolk has allowed them to temporarily homeport the Legend here for as long as is necessary. Yes, May is when the Half Moon is scheduled to shut but I'm sure, given the circumstances, the city is either looking at ways to work around it when the ship docks or delaying the work. Honestly, I'm not sure why they didn't plan to either work around the ships or temporarily have them render passengers in from the beginning.
Speaking of the work being done, did y'all know that included in it is adding a second dock for ships? I just found this out yesterday from my friend who works in planning. Maybe I saw it and it just didn't compute but that's definitely going to help in getting another ship to homeport in Norfolk.
I wonder where they found the room for a second dock?
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The Half Moon Terminal will only be available for overflow cruises from Baltimore until May. After that it will be undergoing expansion to prepare for year round operations which begin in 2025.
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2 hours ago, BeagleAccountant said:
Chrysler has aged much better than the Scope. But with a renovation, they could improve concessions, ingress/egress, bathrooms and add some more high end amenities.
Another big issue with Chrysler hall is the small loading dock. Some of the bigger productions travel with 18 tractor trailers of gear, and the loading dock can handle only 1 truck at a time. This adds an added level of difficulty and cost. They need a much larger delivery dock.
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An appeals court has upheld the dismissal of the $100M lawsuit brought by Cordish against the City of Norfolk regarding casino plans.
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The city has little to do with this particular delay. It is a VDOT project, and the contractors are supposedly delayed by poor soil conditions and overhead wiring conflicts.
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3 hours ago, urbanvb said:
KPMG moved from DT Norfolk to TC. Sounds like time to build another tower if 98% of T
C office space is leased.More cannibalization.
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Norfolk History
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Nice shot. When I was a kid a lot of that was gone. My dad's favorite hardware store was Goldberg's on Church St. Of course that was before the big box stores.