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So, when is demo work expected to begin?

This looks amazing! Would be awesome if it happens!

Thanks for the feedback! I guess I'm not familiar with their look...

Anyone know what that unique-looking building being build on the Boulevard in Virginia Beach is? I think it's not too far from the Hayne's furniture, although on the opposite side of the road. I haven't been able to snap a picture, but it's definitely an unusual-looking building.

Things seem to come to a standstill or get cancelled quickly. The coming soon signs have been taken down at the spot that was supposed to be Chesapeake Bay Market - and nothing is happening in there. Also, what the heck happened with the Norfolk Food Hall? It was supposed to open in summer, but it looks like it's barely moving along too.

Well, this has clearly been very delayed, if it's even still happening...

There aren't really many signs of a slowdown, I think that's just what the media wants us to believe. The US economy is pretty stable and solid.

Thanks!

I used to work at Clark Nexsen. They weren't part of CMSS. Different companies. As to why designs get changed, that's usually factors of cost for materials, desires of the developers, and approving authorities, etc.

SPQ?

This thread isn't very active. I wonder if anyone knows about any of the following: Something is going on at the old Toys R Us location. Any idea what? Something is being built by the vacant China Garden restaurant near Military Circle (Military Hwy side) Anyone have the scoop? And something is being built next to Applebee's where the Friendly's/Boating store was. Who knows what it is?

Oh, gee wilikers, some of you will complain about anything!

Incidentally, Uptown Alley's website is severely outdated. Still says they'll be opening here in 2016! LOL.

Boo! I was still holding out hope that Uptown would eventually come to fruition. I don't have high hopes for Pembroke at the moment, though it really should be prime for development/redevelopment what with the TC corridor being so hype right now. Does anyone know what's going on over by the Top Golf? Looks like site work for something new....maybe it's in another forum here, but if anyone has the lowdown, I'd appreciate the scoop.

I personally liked Lidl fairly well. I see it as very similar to Aldi, though bigger and somewhat more up-scale. Definitely not a full-tier supermarket like Farm Fresh or Harris Teeter. Someone I know that's familiar has said that Farm Fresh is really feeling the pinch, and that it's days are probably numbered. I think FF has much more competition in it's segment than FL does. I don't think Aldi and Lidl are in quite the same segment that FL is. Speaking of Wegmans, though, has anyone heard anything on the progress or time frame? I know that the Office Max just recently relocated to the new Office Depot location, so that obstacle is out of the way. I'm ready for demo to begin and let's get the show on the road! LOL. Anyone in the know with the latest and greatest? Oh, and I keep hearing rumors that Publix could head this way...that'd be awesome. Wegmans and Publix are two of the most highly-rated chains. If HR can score both, we'd be siting really nice. I do think that would be the end of FF and FL, though...and could hurt Kroger and HT to a fair degree. Anyone else heard rumors about Publix?

What makes you say this is a dead project?

Way too expensive, I think. Love the place, but it's just too pricey. $3 for a canned soda? That's steeper than movie theater prices, per oz.

I hate to disagree (actually, no, it's rather fun to debate these ideas) but don't think it was that, either, at least not entirely. I believe there were myriad factors, and it's probably more complex than any single post, but lemme try anyway. First, the mix of establishments wasn't special. Some restaurants, like Outback, Joe's, and Hooters, that you could go to elsewhere. A cruddy food court. A few boutiques that were irrelevant once MacArthur center opened. And bars - like Bar Norfolk and Have A Nice Day - that were not nice places to enjoy an "adult beverage" but places designed to go get wasted and rowdy and had nothing else to offer (unlike someplace like Blue Moon, which is upscale, has some nice food, and isn't "seedy".) Add to that the danger element and lack of good entertainment - plus the fact that the design did little to really make use of the water views. One of the few exceptions to some of this was Jillian's, but it lost its luster fairly quickly. You also had a downtown that wasn't nearly as vibrant back then. Now, with new offices and new residential space, it's really experiencing a true gentrification. The new Waterside is vastly different. Way more upscale. It will capitalize on the new dynamic in DT Norfolk. I like what they've done. Still a little pricey for me - and I don't drink much, so way more interested in the food options, but the "food court" is definitely not like a typical mall. Totally different vibe. I give it at least an A- and I think Cordish has a winner on their hands.

Don't know about that for certain. I guess it's a possibility. So far; however, seems to be fine. Had a panini at Cogan's and it was fantastic! Also had something from The LoCal that was really good. My only complaint is things are a bit pricey.

I hadn't noticed. I hope this is really what's happening!

What's not a good sign? That they have "Market" shirts and perhaps the ability to be used where needed? I don't understand the problem with that. As far as the establishments, there are restaurants - G.F.'s Smokehouse, along with Stripers and Chipotle coming; there are bars - PBR, Starr Hill; and there are those that are "both" like Blue Moon. I think the mix of options is pretty great. I do wish they had more than canned sodas in the Marketplace, and it's a bit on the pricey side to me. But, as a venue where there is a great vibe and mix of dining and drinking and entertainment options, I think it's great.

This wasn't a "Town Point Park" event - this was a Waterside District event. It's not uncommon for venues like this to have limited space.

I, personally, am not disappointed at the Star Hill just being a bar rather than a micro-brewery. I also don't feel there was any "bait-and-switch." It's business, folks, and things often change as projects come to fruition. I think, at the core, the new Waterside is everything that was promised (in spirit, if not literally). I ran over last evening right after work (I literally work across the street, so that was nice and easy) and the place is *jumping*! It just kept getting busier and busier! Was able to grab a Cheeseburger Hoagie from The Local and it was pretty good. Really look forward to trying some of the other places, but they were definitely overwhelmed last night and the expected "hiccups" were there too. Still, it looks great and has quite a vibe. I really think Cordish has done this right, and they have several other properties across the country that are really vibrant places, so I trust (hope) that they can keep this one strong. One thing I did notice, though...that large "WATERSIDE" sign that was supposed to light up red was only just white last night....

I'm still hoping for a New Balance outlet...I usually drive to Williamsburg to get my shoes at the outlet up there...

Those are definitely LED signs. I watched them install them. I keep waiting to see them begin testing. It does look spacious inside. I've been walking around the building every few days and I just keep getting more and more excited!