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Posts posted by drc72
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You completely missed the point of my post. This traffic is what airlines call low-yield, meaning it earns less per seat mile. There are hundereds of thousands of Italians in Australia and South Africa and Alitalia gave up flying to Sydney and Johannesburg because these flights had high loads (meaning nearly full planes) but very low yield making them unprofitable. However, Alitalia keeps Lagos Nigeria because even though the loads are low (especially in Economy), business class is full of ENI workers and cargo is full.
I'm sure as many Italians as there in the area many have little connection with Italy. As for those that do are there enough to fill 214 seats on a daily basis? There are also no major Italian corporations in the Hartford area, killing business traffic. I couldn't see them wanting to fly less than daily, because lower frequency flights kill yields (business travellers prefer frequency). If they're not going to serve Los Angeles, Melbourne, Montreal, Rio de Janeiro, Sydney (all cities with far more Italians), then Hartford has a snowball's chance in hell.
Alitalia has had major problems in the past years. It is a state-owned parasite and for the past years has been strugling with EU legislation that denys state aid to airlines. It's on the verge of bankruptcy and is losing
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VFR (Visiting Friends/Relatives) traffic is notoriously seasonal and low-yield for airlines. Flights to Italy would probably have high loads in the summer/holiday season and smaller loads during the winter. Alitalia is in dire straits and if they cannot make money flying to Los Angeles or a number of larger cities in North America, I'm not sure that Hartford would be a great choice. Also Alitalia's smallest plane capable of flying BDL-MXP or BDL-FCO is the 767-300ER which is considerably larger than the 757-200 that Northwest Airlines is deploying on BDL-AMS. Perhaps service by Eurofly to Naples or Palermo would be better, maybe a once a week seasonal flight.
I personally think Frankfurt would be a great choice for nonstop flights using a 757-200. With US Airways being a Star Alliance member, this could easilly connect to Lufthansa's megahub. However, US seems to be concentrating on using Philadelphia as a transatlantic gateway.
Aer Lingus would be another interesting airline. Ryanair is currently trying to acquire them and turn them into a low-cost transatlantic carrier serving underserved airports, much like they do in Europe. However, I would think that they would need to get 757s, since Aer Lingus' longhaul fleet consists exclusively of Airbus A330-300 and A330-200s.
The Hartford area is loaded with many Italian-Americans, including myself. I know many people here that travel to Italy, and they have go to Boston or NY to get a flight out to Italy. Hartford would be a perfect fit for Alitalia.
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As long as there is a lack of feed on the BDL side (which will always be the case, no ones going to make it a hub) just about any service except for maybe London would need to have connections.
European hub locations are:
AMS (NW/KLM)
CDG (Delta/Air france)
FRA (United/Lufthansa)
I personally think a Delta 757 BDL-CDg would do far better than a NW BDL-AMS, however DL just doesnt have the aircraft, though they are gettign 10-15 new 757s for translantic routes, i expect BOS would see them long before BDL would. Quite possible in the 2010-2015 timeframe, i expect it will take BDL-AMS 2-3 years for it for it to mature where additional flights would come on from any airline.
i expect BDL and PVD to really start to see INTL traffic in the 10 year timeframe 2015-2020 when JFK/EWR and BOS really max out. BDL can pull from the NYC suburbs and PVD will offer high speed rail to both BOS and NYC, most europeans are already used to air/rail connections which will make it more convenient.
The State with the most Italian ancestory in the country should have direct flights to Italy. Newark is right near JFK, and AlItalia flies both out of Newark and JFK. I would love to see AlItalia come to Hartford.
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The Duty Free Shop should get set up pretty soon.
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A Hartford to Rome, Italy flight would be awesome.
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PVD has canada too, but is a significantly smaller airport without the international naming.
I flew out Providence once. Your right it is very small indeed.
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Groundbreaking could be the end of next week.
WOW!!! I hope right.
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I hope this leads to more flights, to other Europeon destinations.
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Excellent!!! Now we just need to add a few more Europeon cities to Bradley's portfolio.
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Lets hope he comes through...Nitkin has well reputable national retailers at his other (suburban) retail venues lets hope he can get them into Hartford
Which retailers has he worked with before?
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So, if this development is a flaming sucess, as a lot of us think it will be, does the state get any kind of return on its investment, aside from the increased tax revenue?
Increased tax revenue will probabaly recoup all of the state's investment in the project, and then some.
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I need to see the cranes and construction workers at the site, before I will believe we have cleared the hurdle.
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Does anyone know what is going on with the top of the building? It looks unfinished and nothing like the renderings. Is the building completely done?
I was wondering about this myself???
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The worst thing that happened to Front Street was that John Rowland went to jail. He was the impetus behind everything that happened, the CCC, the Marriott, the Science Center. When he went to jail, the driving force behind these projects was removed and Front Street floundered.
Yes, he was found guilty and deserved to go to jail. Fine.
My point is that his loss was a big one for Front Street. This project would be done by now if he was still in office. If Perez had made this a prioity instead of helping unions boycott the Marriott, it would probably be done by now.
The Front Street problem is not the market, the,location, the economics or the developer, it is the political will to get the job done.
Rowland had some great ideas for Hartford. It is a shame that he did what he did. This just proves that we need to elect people that are doers and not talkers.
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I agree, Coltsville could use some nice residential buildup. Being just outside of downtown, should make it a prime area for new residential stock.
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I tend to see Yankee Peddler's POV also.
I can too, but putting a park there would be a colossal mistake!!!
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This is obscene. CCEDA has lost all of its credibility in my view. The amount of state and municipal money going into this project now is unacceptable. If I was still a Connecticut taxpayer (either permanently living in or out of Hartford) I'd be incensed. Hartford has a poverty rate above 30% and millions of free dollars are flowing into this 6-acre piece of land that will -- in my view -- never become a landmark destination.
At this point, the money being flushed down Front Street's toilet into Nitkin's coffers could be used much more effectively in scores of other revitalization efforts across the city.
Turn the land into a park and forget about it.
Are you nuts????? Front street is a prime peice of real estate, that cannot be ignored. Although I do agree the process is taking to long and to much money is being squandered. But once developed, the state should see a return on their investment. We just got to get the project going full steam ahead.
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drc72:
Nothing's wrong with a Giulani type mayor! I think Perez is doing good -- especially trying to bring NHL hockey back -- but Perez doesn't have personna of 'Mayor Mike'. Mayor Perez, no offense, but I wish you had 'Mayor Mike's' personna.
JimS
Mayor Mike was really popular with the locals. I don't agree with Mayor Perez on a lot of things, but I am glad he is working on getting the NHL back.
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We need to get things done, that is true, but the LAST thing Hartford needs is a Giuliani type mayor.
What's wrong with Giuliani? He did a lot for NYC.
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I really hate that the majority of all cultural activities in the entire metro Htfd. area are consistently focused on West Hartford and the avenues that surround them.....even if half of the establishments aren't even located within the town limits. Blue Back Square does nothing for the city of Hartford except draw whatever people that remain in Hartford with disposable income over the city line and perpetuates a notion that Htfd can't support a viable retail district.
West Hartford is nice, but I honestly don't think the town is that big of a deal. BBS will certainly help the region, but will not do much for downtown Hartford. WHC as beautiful as it is, is a very small center. It only takes a minute to drive through. Although all the small shops and stores make it a unique place. If we can ever get Front St jump started, Hartford will provide a much better retail experience in my opinion, than WHC can ever dream of. Just my $0.02.
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i hate front st
Front Street would make such a great entertainment district. It's frustrating to see it sitting idle.
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Unbeliavable!!! Toad s would of been a homerun for Front street. Why am I not surprized it didn't happen?????
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"College Square" Would Add Luxury Condo Tower Downtown
Story
http://www.newhavenindependent.org/archive...lege_square.php
That will look good downtown.
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Interesting Tower.
IN PROGRESS: Front Street @ Adriaen's Landing
in Greater Hartford
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Yeah that's what I was thinking as well. I'm sure there are blueprints being developed as we speak. Hopefully at least!!!