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  3. New Titans Stadium (60,000 capacity dome, ground level retail, directly east of Nissan Stadium)

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    New Titans Stadium (60,000 capacity dome, ground level retail, directly east of Nissan Stadium)

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    2 hours ago, Luvemtall said:

    This deal is done, let’s embrace it as a community and find the positive possibilities, and leave all this negativity behind. 

    It's not a done deal. Reasonable objections cannot be reduced to naysaying and negativity. The mayor's and the Titans' are not the only voices that matter. 

    Your contention that a new stadium "will most certainly bring in more revenue" is not backed up by any data. 

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    New Titans Stadium (60,000 capacity dome, ground level retail, directly east of Nissan Stadium)

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    26 minutes ago, nashvylle said:

    You have to account that many of the visitors would never come to Nashville if it was not for whatever is happening at the stadium, however, particularly for certain events that cannot happen at Nissan. What that assumption is, we can debate, but very hard to verify.  

    I agree and somewhat disagree. If affordable housing, grocery stores, daycares, etc. are built around the stadium but some of the sale tax goes to the stadium/east bank instead of metro's general fund (with 100% of real estate taxes going to general fund), that area still has the potential to be a great Nashville neighborhood. The area surrounding Geodis Park has the potential to be a great Nashville neighborhood despite some of the real estate tax revenue going to the fair board instead of the general fund. 

    If the stadium were surrounded by bars, hotels, and STRs, but 100% of the sales tax went to the general fund, I do not think anyone would call that a great Nashville neighborhood. 

    The point isn't that a great Nashville neighborhood will or won't' be built, it's to refute the mayor's claim that tourists will pay for the stadium. If the sales tax capture zone includes the new East Bank neighborhood (some or all of it), then Nashvillian's tax money will go to fund the stadium. 

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  7. New Titans Stadium (60,000 capacity dome, ground level retail, directly east of Nissan Stadium)

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    7 minutes ago, nashvylle said:

    That $300MM report excluded labor and fees to GCs and designers. While still a huge discrepancy, I imagine the 2017 number truly to be closer to $500MM. We are also in record inflation, which does add a lot. 

    Still more than a billion off. I'm not advocating one way or the other, just relaying what I've read from some councilmembers' tweets in reaction to the announcement. 

  8. New Titans Stadium (60,000 capacity dome, ground level retail, directly east of Nissan Stadium)

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    14 minutes ago, Kv615 said:

    What hurdles still need to be crossed to get this to finish line? Does it still need to go through metro council for approval? Is there any change this “doesn’t” happen?  Sure seems like there isn’t a lot of support for this based on my Twitter timeline…excited to see renderings!

    My understanding is this needs council approval. The full report on the condition of the stadium and costs of upgrades from Venue Solutions Group will be made available to Metro Council on November 1. 

    In 2017, Venue Solutions Group produced a report indicating that it would cost less than $300 million to complete necessary upgrades, while in the updated report, they say it will cost between 1.75 and 1.95 billion dollars. Expect members of the council to have questions about this discrepancy. 

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  10. The Transportation and Mass Transit Megathread

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    4 minutes ago, rookzie said:

    Oh believe you me ─ you really do.

    You just don't know that you know, because its still in a state of fragmented abstraction to you.  In a way, I consider you lucky, because much of what you don't think you know about the roads around the airport probably stems from you're not having to deal with it ─ at least not on a periodic basis ─ and all the other roadways associated with that area in general.  That makes it a separation of concern for the most part.

    But you DO know that you know about Chestnut, Humphreys, Hart, and Houston streets, as well as 4th and 3rd Ave S.  IMO that's probably one of the most disjointed, misaligned, diagonalized, and convoluted sub-districts in the core of the city.  It's as if those streets were "broke-off" from the branches of a hackberry tree and just strewn around the tracks where they could fit.  I'm sure you know more about WeHo than I, simply because you have had to deal with it as routine.

    I don't know what I now know about anything having to do with Nashville now where I live or where the airport is

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  11. The Transportation and Mass Transit Megathread

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    12 hours ago, GregH said:

    I had a Nashville sidewalk experience this evening that was a reminder of both how bad the Charlotte ave pedestrian experience is, and how inadequate the "Don't block my walk" ordinance ended up being. I was jogging up Charlotte and encountered one of those "Sidewalk closed, cross here" signs that are basically all that "Don't block my walk" created. But I didn't see any sidewalk closed anywhere ahead or behind or across the street or anywhere as far as I could see. So I just ignored the sign and kept on going. a full 1/4 mile later and past the crest of the hill I found that the sidewalk was completely torn up and being rebuilt by the developer of those townhomes at Charlotte and 440. I'm pretty sure the developer was doing exactly what they're supposed to do and putting signage at the nearest place to make an alternate crossing (even doing that seems to be unusual), but I don't think it's helping much in that instance. And more importantly, it's insane how far apart opportunities to cross the street are on Charlotte just a couple miles from downtown. That stretch, 37th to 31st, appears to be 2200 ft between crosswalks.

    Anyway, my proposed solution to builders closing public space for extended periods is simple: make people who want to close public space pay a reasonable price for using it. Right now permits are like $10 a day to close streets or sidewalks. Make it $1000 a day or something otherwise meaningful, with exceptions for for public events like street fairs or whatever. Make the space valuable and I'm sure builders will be plenty able to plan around it to minimize cost, instead of just closing indefinitely for their convenience for relative pocket change.

     

    While we're charging for taking up the public right of way, let's get rid of all free on-street parking. Free storage of private property on public space...? 

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  14. Zoning and Affordable Housing

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    13 hours ago, MLBrumby said:

    The opposite happened in Nashville in the 1970s... How do I know?  Because when I lived there, I saw scads of new, cheaply-built duplexes in established neighborhoods and had to ask someone why that happened.  Granted it was during a time of suburban flight and there was a 'vacuum' left where many families vacated.  I hope I'm wrong, but it sure looks like we're entering a period just like the 1970s.  

    Is it currently a time of suburban flight and "'vacuum'"? 

    Hard to see how we're entering a period just like the 70s...

  17. Inside 440 - Berry Hill, Midtown, Vanderbilt, 12S, WeHo, Fairgrounds, etc.

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    8 minutes ago, Nashvillain said:

    Your example of Germantown is revealing because every new project there has parking, and yet the streets, sidewalks, bike lanes, greenways, and every available nook and cranny is jammed with parked cars during peak hours. This should tell us something (a couple things it tells us is that people don't like parking in garages. Don't like walking more than a block to their destination. There's a glut of underutilized garage parking. Traffic in urban neighborhoods is people driving around looking for a space close to their destination).

    There needs to be a shift in how we build our cities to shift people into alternative modes of getting around. Doing the same thing we've been doing for the past 70 years will result in the same outcome. Mass transit won't be viable if there's no reason to take it because your car is parked in the garage attached to your building (or the garage attached to your house in the burbs) and your destination has easy parking in the lot or garage attached to it. 

    Furthermore, it's hard to get the densities where mass transit becomes truly viable and sustaining when so much land use is given over to car storage. Show me an example of effective mass transit in an American city where parking is abundant. 

    And no offense to you Smeagolsfree, but your decision not to drive into town to catch a show at the venue without parking is exactly the kind of change in decision making and behavior that minimum or maximum parking policies are meant to induce. 

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    Inside 440 - Berry Hill, Midtown, Vanderbilt, 12S, WeHo, Fairgrounds, etc.

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    13 hours ago, smeagolsfree said:

    You guys can’t have your cake and eat it too with regards to parking. Nashville does not have a viable mass transit system and likely will not for at least another ten years best case scenario. With all of the housing you are getting there, plus retail, plus a venue or two you are going to have a lot of folks that do not live in the neighborhood visiting. I am not going to be one of them if there is no parking. Where I live I do not have a choice to Uber in. Uber does not know my neighborhood exist and there are aa lot of folks that travel into Nashville that ride sharing services is not an option.

    Same goes for the Fairgrounds venues not to say there is anything I would go to do there. I am not a race fan, soccer fan, nor a flea market attendee, but I realize Nashville needs those things. Parking was not planned out there either. It is a mess and I knew it would be. WeHo is about to be a mess. Wait till all those apartments are built out and everything hat is planned is finished and then think about what is saiid here. It will be like Germantown during the evening. You can barely drive the two way streets there now because of all of the parked cars on the side streets and they are building more. 

    The plan about making parking optional for developments is going to be a risky one if it is passed, because if a developer does not have to build parking he is going to save a ton of money. It is also a double edge sword if they need parking to entice tenants or residents.

    If Nashville does not have a mass transit system that works (buses in this city are not) then we are going to be in bigger trouble.

    Sorry Paul, most of the time we agree, but this time it’s your neighborhood so you get to build your own mess and live in it. The form and function of WeHo streets are a mess and throw in a train at the wrong time with a big fairgrounds function and a function at the new venue and you have spilt martinis everywhere.

    I like the new venue but I see their concern. It’s also the same people that complain about the race track I will wager.

    Your example of Germantown is revealing because every new project there has parking, and yet the streets, sidewalks, bike lanes, greenways, and every available nook and cranny is jammed with parked cars during peak hours. This should tell us something (a couple things it tells us is that people don't like parking in garages. Don't like walking more than a block to their destination. There's a glut of underutilized garage parking. Traffic in urban neighborhoods is people driving around looking for a space close to their destination).

    There needs to be a shift in how we build our cities to shift people into alternative modes of getting around. Doing the same thing we've been doing for the past 70 years will result in the same outcome. Mass transit won't be viable if there's no reason to take it because your car is parked in the garage attached to your building (or the garage attached to your house in the burbs) and your destination has easy parking in the lot or garage attached to it. 

    Furthermore, it's hard to get the densities where mass transit becomes truly viable and sustaining when so much land use is given over to car storage. Show me an example of effective mass transit in an American city where parking is abundant. 

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  21. 1010 Church Street (60 story/750', 500 unit residential tower, 7 story/60,000 sq. ft. YMCA addition), $350 million

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    1 hour ago, PillowTalk4 said:

    I think you're missing that the conversation is about how "some" buildings are topped out.  I don't think any of the buildings you mentioned would call for a crown.  And, you're right they are unique designs that stand on their own.  Creative lighting would enhance those buildings at night.   But, 505 for instance would have been nicer if it had been finished in a way that wasn't just flat.  Clearly not every building in Nashville will or should have a unique top.  Most of us are hoping that there will be a few standouts just to break up the monotony of the flat appearance.   Atlanta's and Charlotte's skylines are enhanced by the way some of their buildings are finished at the top.  It gives their skylines flare.

    People on this site probably know what city is in the picture below.  Most people probably would not because there is nothing to distinguish it minus the mountain range and while it is a world destination, it's not typically on the tip of most peoples tongue when deciding on a vacation destination.  I've had people tell me it's a city in China or Japan.  Some have said Rio or a South American City.  Most simply did not know.

    Living in Vancouver, British Columbia - Prepare for Canada

    Where as, I know people who have never been to the city pictured below, but they know it simply because of some of the buildings.  Especially those with unique tops.

    San Diego travel guide: Do's and don'ts

    I'm guessing the top is Vancouver and I have no idea about the bottom one. Phoenix? (Just kidding)

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  22. Nashville Bits and Pieces

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    2 minutes ago, PaulChinetti said:

    Just frame it as a tax on the city folk. Done and done, passes unanimously. 

    Lol, they'd have to be pretty dense to buy that when it would obviously be just as much a tax on suburban/exurban commuters. But, hey, could be worth a try!

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  23. Nashville Bits and Pieces

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    1 hour ago, Bos2Nash said:

    Removing lanes will be inevitable, especially with an eventual (crossing my fingers) and inevitable transit system. No matter how cynical we all are (justifiably so) there will need to be a shift at some point and that will probably lose lanes. 

    Congestion pricing I don't see happening before 2040/2050. NYC is the only city in the US to even propose implementing such a policy and I don't think it has been implemented as of yet. I do not see the political willpower at the city level and I do see the political willpower on the state level to block such a move.

    You're right about congestion pricing being a non-starter with state government and, as far as I'm aware, it's not even on anyone's radar in Metro (kind of like purchasing the tracks through the Gulch before CSX removed them went over everyone's head except Rookzie's). I'm just trying to project optimism and thinking that things (local and state politics) can change faster than we anticipate

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  24. Nashville Bits and Pieces

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    15 minutes ago, Nash_12South said:

    I still wonder at how long is the list of folks who can happily go without a car, in Nashville? How is life in a small 600 sf apartment in one of these towers, with minimal storage for things like groceries, or your golf clubs? How often do you visit your parents in Little Rock, your sister and her adorable kids in Huntsville, your best friend in Chattanooga? Take the bus? Fly? I have worked with several young, hip, trendy folks, living downtown, who have lasted about 3 months without a car. Their dating lives were challenging.

    But shouldn't people have the choice? Let developers figure out how much parking is needed. Let people buy a unit without parking if they want. Sounds rational. As opposed to the current system where we have an absolute glut of parking and owners and renters pay for a spot--or multiple spots--whether they use them or not. 

    At some point, Nashville will put pressure on driving. Congestion pricing. No free on-street parking. Removing lanes. These changes are coming (slowly because 'Murca), but the status quo is untenable. 

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