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  1. 37 minutes ago, Reverie39 said:

    This is great discussion. Thank you @MarcoPolo for introducing me to freemaptools... I have been searching for a population/area estimator like that for a long time. 

    I'll add my thoughts: I think Charlotte is absolutely the dominant city of the Carolinas, economically and culturally. However the extent to which it dominates is less than the extent to which other cities dominate in similarly heavily-populated states. Atlanta is the driving force of Georgia and it's not close. Chicago for Illinois. Philadelphia for Pennsylvania. Boston for Massachusetts. Detroit for Michigan. Seattle for Washington. Whereas in NC we have a rather unique situation where we are high population and impactful economy but a little more spread out across three major metro areas (and three smaller ones). In that sense I think we can be compared more to Ohio, which is also highly populated but spread out a little between Cleveland, Columbus, and Cincinnati. Similarly to Ohio, our state capital is fairly large but not the dominant city... though in the same tier.

    The comparison of NC to Ohio is a good one.  Texas also has a number of cities with relative parity.

  2. 2 hours ago, J-Rob said:

    Fun fact: There is a section of Urban Planet dedicated to NYC -> https://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/forum/114-new-york-city/

    It's not very active, but maybe if you post NYC content there you can get it going again.

    Fun fact.  Someone else mentioned GDP in Atlanta and skyscrapers in Austin and Seattle.  I was responding to that.  If you’re insecure about NY, therapy might be an option.

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  3. 22 hours ago, MarcoPolo said:

    Haven't been on in a while.....crazy busy.  Lot's of great news and discussions on the various threads, so it's been fun catching up!  

    Density vs population, one of my nerdy pastimes, is a tricky undertaking when attempting to make comparisons between cities.    OneRJ's, JeanCLT's, and Hushpuppy321's thread is a great example.  Gentlemen, each of you are simultaneously right and wrong in your assessments.   Before I go on, I want to make clear, this is not a game of "my town is bigger/better than your town".   I know how sensitive the Charlotte  vs Raleigh beef is on here, lol!   Accurately determining the population of an area requires some MacGyver'ing of available data tools, because populations locate based on many factors, but the least sticky of these are the legacy, political boundaries that make up the map of our States, Counties, and municipal limits.  Not much detail can be gleaned regarding density dispersions relying on such boundaries.   Currently in the US, the best available tools are census tracts, zip codes, and Google Earth satellite imagery.   When you add the underlying Zoning, then you're "cooking-with-gas" so to speak.  A fun source of info that won't bog you down in the weeds, while still providing useful info for dinner party convo fun, is  www.freemaptools.com.   You can draw radii around any area and find out the underlying population.  It's a next step up from relying on city limits, and county lines.  Caveat, the sources of data can be a few years old, and if you do so for other countries, the methods used to collect the underlying data are not always reliable.  For the purposes of general discussions it, and several other similar websites, will suffice.  

    Getting deeper into the issue than the websites go, I had to do a pretty in-depth analysis several years ago about density/pop/and market analysis, and was surprised by some of the results.   Back to Charlotte  vs Raleigh, or vice-verse depending on which is your preference, the populations using radii only show that for almost every increment of distance, the total population from downtown Charlotte outward is greater than similar circles drawn around downtown Raleigh.  This is also the case when you "weight average" the "nodal" center (geographic center of a population mass) for each.  Charlotte's is conveniently centered near downtown because its urban spatial form is centrodial, vs Raleigh's which skews westward because of the likes of Cary, Durham, and Chapel Hill.   About 110,000 more people live within 10 miles of downtown Charlotte than downtown Raleigh.   A quarter million or so more people live within 25mi of downtown Charlotte than downtown Raleigh.   Same is true at 50mi.   At 100 mi, which is mostly a comparison for fun, the population around Charlotte is 1.4  million more than Raleigh's, but only 600,000 less than Atlanta's.  

    The real comparisons can be made when you factor in water bodies, and zoning.   For example, Charlotte's central core area, the 10 mile ring, includes large industrial areas, the airport, and large employment districts.  The result is that the population density within the predominantly residential urban fabric of Charlotte's is higher than that of Raleigh's, where many of these big footprint, non residential uses are located beyond the 10 mi ring.   The density difference isn't dramatic, but measurable, at 200 to 300 more people per square mile.   On the ground the character of a community is discernible at these numbers.  That's why Charlotte can "look and feel" bigger than Raleigh at times.   I know everyone is thinking....what about Atlanta?   The 10mi population from downtown Atlanta is 920,000.   Within this 10 mile ring there are large industrial areas, part of the airport, large commercial districts and therefore the residential population densities are much greater.    For comparison, the 10mi ring around downtown Charlotte is 570,000, and Raleigh's is 460,000.   That's why Atlanta feels so much "bigger".  

    SydneyCartonII's comment about dominance is one that should be looked at in terms of yearly GDP to be comparable from a metrics standpoint because population is not enough of a measure for "dominance".   The latest estimates for US city GDP's bear out that Charlotte is indeed the dominant economic engine in NC, at $185 billion.  That's about the same size as all the other large cities in NC combined...including Raleigh's which stands at $85 billion.   Atlanta's, by the way, is over twice is large as Charlotte's.  

    Have fun drawing circles!

     

    The most amazing city for GDP is NY.   Its GDP in 2020 was $1.5T.  No US city (Chicago, Dallas, Houston, Atlanta, LA) remotely approaches its GDP per capita. If based on your statement, Atlanta’s is $200m, NY’s is eight times larger even though its metro population is only about 3.8 times bigger (5.5m versus 18.5m).

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/183815/gdp-of-the-new-york-metro-area/

     

     

     

     

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  4. 21 hours ago, KJHburg said:

    Eaton Corporation is adding 170 jobs in their Raleigh office.  I know this corporation is based in Ireland but why not make Raleigh their American HQ?

    https://wraltechwire.com/2022/07/18/eaton-adding-jobs-in-triangle-including-many-to-be-based-at-revamped-raleigh-office/

    Is Eaton an American  company that “moved” its “HQ” to Ireland as part of a tax inversion scheme?  Ireland has very few, home-grown, major corporations.

  5. You have to live Clt!
     

    https://www.charlotteobserver.com

    Luxury apartments planned for uptown will include affordable units, officials say BY CHARLOTTE KRAMON UPDATED JULY 18, 2022 6:00 PM

    A 353-unit luxury apartment complex in uptown Charlotte will include 106 units for residents below the city’s median income when it opens in 2024, nonprofit real estate company Inlivian said Monday. The mixed-income residential community at 8th and North Tryon streets will be the first of its kind in North Carolina, Inlivian said. Census data show the median income in Charlotte is $65,359….

    Preliminary work is underway on the site of the vacant Hall House, formerly Barringer Hotel, and construction is scheduled to begin in the early fall, Inlivian said. The building will feature 1940s-era art deco architecture, and amenities will include a spa pool, co-working cafe, rooftop terrace, dog park, and sports courts. Inside, there will be one-, two- and three-bedroom units, in addition to studio apartments. The affordable units will be evenly dispersed. “Every Charlotte resident deserves a place to call home that brings them pride and sets them up for success,” Mecklenburg County Commissioner Mark Jerrell said in an Inlivian news release. “(Inlivian) is opening doors that will provide more access to many of the city’s best amenities, which for too long have been available to high-income individuals only.”

    Read more at: https://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/business/development/article263580848.html#storylink=cpy

     

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  6. 17 hours ago, JeanClt said:

    Charlotte, compared to its “peer” cities, is an anomaly since cities it’s size are more often than not the capital city or even relatively close to its capital city as compared to Charlotte. There are real perks to be a government center especially a state capital. Charlotte is at a disadvantage in that regard and is surprisingly doing almost just as well for itself if not better in some aspects.

    Most state capitals are not the state’s main city.   Boston, Atlanta, Denver, Providence, and SLC are the exceptions to that rule.

     

  7. 17 minutes ago, CharlotteWkndBuzz said:

    I’m okay with another office tower, however, there absolutely needs to be a hotel or residential aspect to LU. There’s room for several towers at least and if you get creative, maybe three. I’d like another nice new flagship hotel operator to set shop at LU. The feel of the area, I could envision a Loews hotel or W Hotel & Residences. Just doing some rough measurements on google earth, I mean, this last plot is massive. You could fit the epicentre on that last plot in LU…lots of possibilities. 

    I think that Charlotte should reach for the skies and get a Mandarin, St. Regis, or Waldorf.  

    Atlanta, Dallas, Houston, and Miami have them.  Charlotte should too.

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  8. 14 minutes ago, KJHburg said:

    Getting back on track  NC ranked #1 business climate by 2 organizations in 1 week with different criteria used is impressive.    Heard the NC pipeline is full of $1 B projects hopefully the Charlotte metro will get its share.  But again need to say we need get a couple of megasites going in this region or we can watch multi billion plants go elsewhere.   I believe it is even more important now as office leasing across the country has slowed since Covid and you need to be present at a manufacturing facility.  Not to mention supply chain and lessen foreign dependence of other countries.  

    https://wraltechwire.com/2022/07/14/nc-ranks-1-for-its-business-climate-for-second-time-this-week/

    It’s nice to see NC get a share of auto manufacturing with Vin.  It seems like SC dominates auto jobs in the region.

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