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I see this getting some sort of naming rights option as it's coming to fruition, or even get divided up. Westcourt will probably just be the placeholder/DBA.
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13 hours ago, XRZ.ME said:
https://emma.msrb.org/P21801226-P21382315-P21822196.pdf
Capacity limited and ordering more coaches to lengthen the train.
These statistics are promising and comparable to what an airline would consider a lucrative/busy flight route. A family member of mine works with American Airlines at the corporate level in Dallas flying constantly to Orlando. He mentioned one day the average flight between the two cities averages 84% sold, which the company considers high volume and successful considering the numerous flights per day and multiple airlines offering service on this route. So with Brightline's 16 trains a day competing with multiple airlines and cars, this should be a huge deal considering a major airline considers this number lucrative.
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48 minutes ago, sethM said:
You have to zoom out and look at the guy running it and see what he was wanting to get out of it. The idea was to open a radical new concept, generate a ton of buzz and investor interest, and then immediately expand all over the country. By doing this you can do the tech company approach of disrupter followed by figuring out how to make money later. Traditional food hall is the obvious choice but then investors would be basing their choice to invest based on the financials which I'm sure were piss poor.
Unfortunately for the guy it looks like investors were smart enough to also realize the full service food hall concept is stupid.
Yeah, an article came out yesterday of the owner shutting down the Dunwoody/Atlanta location. I'm pretty sure all locations will shutter in the next few days based on all the wage theft and money laundering allegations.
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2 hours ago, jrs2 said:
those apartment infill projects near the Premium Outlets off of Oakridge...wow what a change. no more grass weed lot for overflow parking. now, that tract is almost fully developed. New hotel(s) there too. And the Artegon/ Deezerland apartment building "reclaiming" part of the surface lot which is unused...wow...fantastic densification on an unused parking lot section- soon to be two. I am very excited about that because there is nothing worse than going to a place, exiting, and gazing at an empty parking lot. I hate that; that feeling of desolation. It sucks. Now it's so much better...
Yes! Such great examples of densifying suburban environments and redevelopment. Despite how busy our tourism corridor can be, there are still many underutilized/abandoned lots/parking littered throughout. These serve as examples to other areas of town and even other cities. It seems the City and County have stopped waiting on large hotel and tourism developers and likely allowed the conversion to residential. Or if residential developers came at the city and county begging with plans in place.
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Not sure if this would be the appropriate thread, but it is all in the Attractions Corridor.A few nights ago on my way home I took a detour and drove around the corridor after noticing the large number of housing and apartment buildings/complexes completed and under construction. It’s pretty impressive, the number of units all these projects will add for a submarket. These below are within the City of Orlando. (Please excuse the the poor quality and lighting in some of these photos, I took these on my phone at night, and I’m posting on my phone m) I will start from the northernmost site and head south.
Bainbridge The Grande - wedge parcel bordered by Major Blvd, Caravan Ct and Grand National Dr. 5-story wrapped around parking deck.
~ 300-350 units (based on similar scale projects)
Major Blvd looking west towards Grand National Drive
Liviano Grand National - Large parcel framed by Oak Ridge Rd and out parcels to the north, Adriana Ave to the west, Altamira Dr to the south and International Drive storefronts to the east. South of the Outlets.
Three 4-story buildings with parking garage and 7-story Townplace Suites by Marriott property.
~ 300-325 units (based on similar-scale projects).
Grand Palm Dr looking south
Overlook Ct looking east towards Townplace property.
Deseo Grande - retro-fitted southern portion of Dezerland Park(Festival Bay Mall) parking lot. 2 phase: phase 1 completed, phase 2 under construction. 5-story wrapped around parking structure.365 units (Phase 1)
~365 units (Phase 2 estimation). 730 total.
Phase 1 completed.
Looking south, phase 1 on the right, phase 2 under construction on the left.
Triton Cay - Carrier Dr and Lakehurst Drive(where the proposed roundabout will be). This has been completed for some time now. 4-story wrapped around parking structure.
346 units.
Carrier Dr and Lakehurst Dr (future roundabout)
*The parcel directly south (Esh Orlando LLC on the map) was fenced and cleared. Likely additional multi family housing since this developer has proposed other multi family housing developments in Metro Orlando.*
*EDIT: The parcel to the south is the second phase of this development, permitted under 'Silver Hill Phase 2" with The City for a total of 511 units, or and additional 165 units.
Bainbridge Universal Sand Lake (under constitution) - SE corner of Carrier Dr and Universal Blvd. Likely 5-story wrapped around parking deck (based on 5-story elevator shafts).
~ 300-350 units (based on similar scale projects)
Looking south from The Pointe Hotel parking lot.
Carrier Dr at the Universal Blvd intersection (stopped at a red light).
Legacy Universal - SW Corner of Carrier Dr and Universal Blvd intersection. This has been completed for sometime now.350 units.
Looking east on Carrier Dr, Legacy West to the right.
I’ll keep this post just for the City of Orlando portion of the Attractions Corridor/North I-Drive since south I-Drive has about the same, or more, number of developments underway and completed. I will be on the look out for more. These are a pretty big deal considering this area severely lacked housing. This area will see up to ~2,500 units total come on the market and within the City. This also doesn’t count the recently completed and under construction properties in Dr Phillips/Turkey Lake Rd.
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20 hours ago, tc01 said:
Why we can't see this type of development......
Lack of land available land resorting to large redevelopment projects, high population density, more urbanized environment. All of this has created a critical mass for quite a long time now in a place like Broward, which is close to 2 million people alone.
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11 hours ago, orlandocity87 said:
I love to compare Google Street View images, so I figure I'd save a couple and share them here. A couple of my favorite intersections that transformed in the last 5-15 years:
Livingston & Rosalind
Advent Health at Sanitarium Avenue
Amelia Street in Creative Village
Health Village at Advent Health
Orange Avenue at Lake Ivanhoe
Orange Avenue in Uptown/North Quarter
Church Street in South Eola
We have come a long way in Orlando whether we want to acknowledge this or not. These are all pretty impressive changes to corridors. We still have more to improve but this urbanism and retrofitting has done more than tall buildings would. Just my thoughts.
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So Aeromexico, Avianca, and Copa (If I read correctly) will be moving over to Terminal C. I feel like United would be a good fit to transfer over to Terminal C after the expansion since many partner international airlines are all there and would make a better transfer hub. Delta has really taken advantage of this capitalizing on the Sky Team international airlines with routes here and with the new Miami route. I have spoken to multiple United Flight attendants where many have hinted on potential international expansion from Orlando within the next two years, although there is no article I have seen stating this. Shifting an airline with numerous flights will help offload the traffic in Terminals A/B, having only Jetblue was so unserious, but it explains the potential route and ops expansion out of Orlando.
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On 3/18/2024 at 2:11 PM, orlandocity87 said:
Was in downtown for lunch these last few days and saw quite a bit of workers at this site. Once the screen is on and containers painted it will resemble the rendering. Shouldn't be too far off.
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On 1/3/2024 at 12:47 PM, RedStar25 said:
I will say that the lights around Lake Eola are very nice. The giant satan... I mean Santa hat wasn't on but it was very nice to walk around the lake. Much better than Disney Springs.
Yes, the holiday decorations for lake eola have improved so much over the years and and kept the park pretty busy even on colder nights.
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3 hours ago, jrs2 said:
Nice design. But...they should focus that money on improving the corridors between Citrus Bowl and the Soccer Stadium so that patrons, like the EDC crowd, can go back and forth without fearing for their lives. That, IMO, needs to be done bc going into the ghetto for EDC does not look so attractive compared to going to EDC in Vegas, which I'm sure is not in the hood.
I highly doubt that will sway Insomniac Events away from this site considering the group has quite a lot invested into Orlando and the site is relatively efficient in having high capacity. And with roughly 150,000 to 200,000 people attending per day it is not too much of an issue when walking in groups. I have heard mixed opinions, positives and negatives, between EDC Orlando being "within a city" vs EDC being in a motor speedway in the desert 16 miles away from the strip.
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On 11/6/2023 at 11:30 PM, codypet said:
A group of downtown Orlando nighttime entertainment venues that includes the 102-year-old Beacham Theater will undergo a dramatic transformation.
Managing Partner John SanFelippo of The Block — the name of the group of venues that includes Beacham, The Social, The Corner, Aero, Patio, 64 North and Planet Pizza — has hired Orlando-based Dap Design to help transform the connected venues at the corner of East Washington Street and North Orange Avenue.
A redesign of the façade integrates the now disparate clubs and bars into a unified vision. An exterior rendering shown to Orlando Business Journal conveyed a modern deco style, and SanFelippo said a final version will be released once he has approvals from the city of Orlando. Then, work will commence without delay.
“There’s a shift in what’s happening with businesses downtown. We're seeing other businesses go out of business,” said SanFelippo. "Restaurants that are busy during the day have to figure out how to get busy at night if they want to survive. For us, we’ve been active at night, and we need to have daytime activity, too. We all need to be activated both daytime and nighttime.”
SanFelippo said the concerts, events and club nights will continue, but the changes ahead include a recording studio, coffee shop, an e-sports venue and related education space, and more.
That's great to hear! You actaully already see that happening with a few venues around downtown offering daytime vibes. I think added spaces for remote work and incubation spaces will go a long way.
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3 hours ago, jrs2 said:
question: I've got a bud who is driving up to see a Magic game on Saturday night...while EDC is going on. Any input on parking (if he does not park inside Geico Garage)? I foresee a sh!t show for parking...
Anybody else also please chime in...
Many for EDC will take the multiple shuttles that will be coming from the tourist corridor, get dropped off or rideshare. There are multiple garages around downtown Orlando, mainly along the grapefruit lymmo route, and will take it to OBT and Central. From what I read it, they have a recommended list of garages that are 55 west, central garage, Geico garage, City Commons, 200 S orange, Jefferson garage. I doubt the garages will get too busy, but the festival has grown significantly and the downtown garage/Lymmo route has become much more popular since it's cheaper.
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On 10/30/2023 at 12:44 PM, jrs2 said:
I can see Westshore.
I cannot see them dumping the downtown Tampa location; I think both would get built...maybe one before the other based on their preferred real estate deals for the stations?
What I'd like to know is what the status is with Sunshine Corridor. I think it would be ironic if Orlando's attempt at an "urban corridor" gets dumped ultimately by BL and they instead opt for the 417 to WDW alignment instead, and then they enter completely into a Tampa urban corridor right to Westshore Plaza. If it happens that way, well, then so be it; Orlando is very unconventional as a city as it is.
But on the Tampa side, I'll tell you this: I-275 has a very wide easement...they can easily put a line down the middle...even an elevated station/connector up and over the EB I-275 lanes and on to Westshore Plaza or even over the WB lanes or both. In The ATL, they have an office building/hotel directly on top of GA 400 as you enter into Buckhead and GA 400 is a "tunnel" for a short period. Something like that would look cool over there.
Now, if easement could allow for it, I would have BL go right to that Intermodal facility that is near International Plaza- but I don't see that b/c of geography.
not unless they start offering express trains that go from MCO-MIA and bypass the other stations... right?
I personally don't see them dumping the Sunshine corridor. It's certainly high-priced, but will be incredibly high reward with significant real estate opportunity and convention business, etc. The business traveler is such a sweet spot for them. It may even end up being an overpass/elevated rail($$$$$$) all down or over Taft Vineland road which I believe is county-owned/maintained.
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6 hours ago, rolly said:From "10 Best Day Trips from St. Augustine" on youtube.
This is a really good angle. All the 8-15 story apartment buildings have done a lot for the downtown area over the years,
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https://hainescityedc.com/resources/1-135.pdf
Maybe this was already shared but this is a good FDOT Flyer showing the 7 potential stops including:
- Loughman
- Davenport
- Haines City
- Lake Alfred
- Aburndale
- Polk Parkway
- Lakeland
This addition makes so much sense since hundreds of thousands live near these areas. It is wild to see how serious these talks have become in such a short period of time. I truly believe Brightline has been the catalyst in the state of Florida. It made it (train/mass transit) tangible and now so many want a part of it. Yes, Florida is very car centric but it has relatively densely populated corridors and what Brightline has kickstarted is a type of retro fitting in enhancing what we already have in place (existing rail corridors running through population centers).
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Ummm, there are definitely homeless people in Boston, and quite daring ones. I was in Boston in May and was a little shocked to see a lot of empty spaces, but there were a lot of families and tourists for all the graduations happening. Also, the North End was rowdy AF with cars and truck honking their horns and fratty behavior. Every city has that.
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I am already receiving Zillow ads for rental units, so it's certainly coming soon. Could be a lack of workers?
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5 hours ago, dcluley98 said:
A lot of the videos online of the full trip from Miami to ORL the duration was actually a lot longer than what they quoted. Not sure if this is just because it is the initial runs and they are still getting used to the tracks and speed/crossings, or if it will stay that way.
More stations adds more time and it would eventually make it less beneficial compared to car-driven. This was meant to be intercity with other services serving local connections. I believe they will only have 2 stations between MCO and Tampa: One in the tourist area (whether it be CC/Sunshine Corridor Sunrail connection or Disney) and Lakeland.
Were they all from the first day? I had a friend from Miami take it up to Orlando on the first day and it did take longer. The trip back arrived at the Miami station ahead of schedule.
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8 hours ago, aent said:
Brightline said the trains are running about 75% capacity so far on average, with 18 runs of trains entirely sold out so far.... but they're only running half the trains they're supposed to. They'll be go to a full schedule in a week, and are cutting the price if you get off at WPB by $10, since the train is usually at capacity from WPB-MIA, to encourage people to get off there. Their Christmas Train, Polar Express will be taking a hiatus this year due to lack of train availability... they'll revisit its return once they get delivery of the 20 new passenger cars on order.
They also said they expect the Treasure Coast station to be fully open by 2028, but not where it will be quite yet
I am hoping the pricing is tiered a little better over time to the different stations, it will definitely help
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The Shoma Bazar in Doral is nice! So something similar would be a nice addition and attraction to the downtown area.
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7 hours ago, shardoon said:
Added another 330k passengers rolling 12 months through August. Currently at 55,391,246 passengers. We still have 4 more months left in the year. I am estimating somewhere between 56-57 million will be the eventual total.......which is astounding.
Not bad at all for an airport with no central/major airline hub dominating.
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I believe with this now open, things can move faster (money) for the additional connections. The first step may be heavy, cumbersome, and time consuming, but it's the first step. The speculation is no longer there now that it's real.
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Sunrail may have the stops in between and brightline does the “express stops” at Convention Center/Epic and Disney Springs. Similar to that proposal along the NE Dade FEC corridor.