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Exactly. Let's not be naive and pretend the name of the building was not an intentional double entendre designed to lure mid-twenty something lost boys to Buddy Dyer's Neverland of Sunday Fundays.

I can't tell if this signage attempts to downplay or plays up the "420" double entendre. Either way, I'm sure we'll see a smoke shop going in one of the retail spaces.

Like I said, nothing in Orlando holds a candle to the upper echelon residential high-rises in our aspirational cities, so the fact you only cite working on something here proves my point as to your small town thinking. I'd love to know what sub-par project you were a part of. Maybe a powerhouse internationally-known group affiliated with Ustler or Kuhn I presume? Go outside of Orlando to see if anyone recognizes those names.

That's an asinine assertion. Of course it does. Can you honestly not see the difference between building a plywood 4-story building that only costs $10MM and a vertical high-rise costing $60MM plus? Even if it were only numbers, the obstacles to get a $60MM construction loan is something they likey have never faced before. Maybe that's the Orlando thought process, which might be why we lack a single residential high-rise downtown any near on par with the best in Miami. It looks like the City Centre developer is in the same boat of inexperience. Glad he has been named to help do the DPAC hotel as well.

I was looking through this developer's portfolio and it appears they have never developed anything over 8 stories tall. Are we really supposed to believe that they can pull off a 26 story high-rise? Seems like a pipe dream they are selling the U Club.

It's common knowledge that the U Club was white, christian male only until the 1990s.

Anyone hear about a Las Vegas firm that was sniffing around CCS? Also heard a rumor about the owner of Wildsides looking at the train station for yet another flatbread restaurant. With the arena around the corner, CCS is a gold-mine. It might take away business from the rest of the city, but its a gold-mine. Can't wait to see what happens.

Surprisingly its not bad like I thought it would be. It doesn't even fill up past the 4th floor. People are too cheap to park there I guess.

They are going to have to do something. Forgot about the fire station as well as how Orange frequently gets blocked off at night, preventing people from getting out.

Yeah or you could turn on central I guess, but good luck in peak traffic and god help you when the new magic arena opens and your parking garage is a madhouse. I got in the mentality that I wouldn't ever pull my car out of the parking garage in Solaire Fri/Sat night once the theater opened but I did it last week and it wasn't bad at all. Pine St. blocks up with drunks but going down Church is quick. Dynetech and Vue probably have the easiest enterances but that block feels like a ghost town to me. Funny how segregated downtown Orlando is. You have Thorton Park and the CBD and anything else feels like tumbleweeds are blowing in even though it's two blocks over.

Something I haven't seen anyone mention is the parking entrance. To me that would deter me from even thinking about this place. The only entrance is on Pine Street (one way.) The only way to get to Pine Street is by Garland (one way.) If you are coming from North Orange you are going to have to go all the way down to South if its past 6pm and do a loop. Depending on what time of the day it could easily add an extra 10 minutes of traffic time just to get stuck at the train. I live in the Solaire and that's a pain as is during busy times but there are several different routes.