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sweet. that would be a great place for another 400+. imagine how that cluster would look then.

here here, JFW. i'm itchin to see updates on dynatech that aren't form the webcam as well as 55 west, paramount and the florida hospital, etc.

...eww

i said seattle not san diego.

have to be honest, i love density, but vancouver is crammed full of tall condo buildings that to me are just not as appealing as a glass office tower. maybe it just reminds me too much of a strip of condos on a beach or something. which i guess is why i could care less for miami's skyline either. best skyline in the country imho is seattle. thats who we should emulate. oh, and yes, those photo's of charlotte are pretty nifty. i think i have a little p*nis envy.

and if i had my, bic, you would get your way! brilliant idea!

yeah, that 5th pic looks like it could have been taken in Kosovo after they started to recover from the war.

yw and yeah its very sterile looking. i kinda threw up a little when i saw the pic. but then again, isn't it off the beaten path? at least its not right on I-drive.

my point is, LA is more high profile than orlando on many levels. period. therefore disney of course would fork over more money. that is the way they are. but can you blame them? don't get mad at me just for stating the obvious. and again, lost in this whole argument which i didn't even intend on starting is the $13.5 million. disney didn't have to give ANYthing.

trust me i'm not trying to say LA is above orlando. but practically speaking, when a house that goes for $150 grand in orlando goes for $450 grand in LA, there is gonna be an over all difference that is merely a reflection of the differences in standard of living. the disney hall was such a big deal for the disney family who live in LA and adding gehry to the mix (another local son), it was a much bigger deal nationally when it happened than the OPAC will be. it makes sense that the disney corporation would give more merely for the exposure. by your argument, then perhaps some private orlando family should fork over $84.5 million. ....ain't gonna happen. not in orlando. ya'll can hate disney all you want. i sure have lots of reasons to hate them having given them 7 years of my life i can't get back, but $13.5 million gift is a gift nonetheless. i know the OPAC people are happy. besides, Outback sucks

according to wikipedia (which may or may not be reliable) the disney family gave 84.5 million and the walt disney company gave 25 million. they are separate contributions. the Disney Concert Hall is widley known more for the Disney family than the corporation. but it really is hard to compare these two. downtown LA and downtown orlando are quite on different levels not to mention LA's own frank gehry was the architect. i think what disney is contributing to the OPAC is pretty comparable to be honest. i do agree, however, that they could have put a much better effort into the amphitheater. but here's my question, what is the amphitheater used for year in and year out. i know the orlando shakespeare festival uses it, but what else? anybody know?

there is a rendering of it on orlandoskyscrapers.com

yeah, i hear the new location for Paris Hilton's namesake is just northeast of the the JYP and I-4 interchange. and its gonna be called "No Special Privilages"

how bout gehry??

considering how apparently narrow the garage entrance is maybe they should also offer body work.

i think what most people argue is you shouldn't have to pay that much for chinese food. especially when there are some really inexpensive and quite good asian flavors down in little siagon. no offense, but imho, pf changs is a restaurant for those who aren't as exposed to as much culture as others; as are most huge national chains regardless of cuisine type. but then again, i grew up in orlando and moved to seattle which is pretty much the best city in america for mid-priced non-chain restaurants, so it really opened my eyes to the fact that there are so many other eating establishments out there that are better. then of course also having the privilage to travel to many parts of asia, i got to experience asian cuisine at its origin which made it much more evident that big chain american asian food kinda sucks. therefore, i just choose to never go back to big chain eating unless i have to. of course, there is always the age-old formula... if you see a lot asian people eating in a certain asian restaurant and not another, there is probably a good reason.

just in time for transformers!

keep positive. don't let some article by the Slantinal make things worse than they really are.

while your at it, pieson, you might want to add some punctuation after the word "on". just a friendly gayborhood tip.

i'm biting my tongue so hard its bleeding right now.

unless of course Glaze is an asian steakhouse, then maybe it IS supposed to be Graze. "see de dericious cows glazing in the glass" i'm going to hell.

is there a construction cam for this?

these ain't the four seasons renderings though. these renderings are of the shopping/hotel development thats going up over on the west side of disney. just wanted to clarify.

"Jesus is coming back. LOOK BUSY!"

and of course they have some ancient pic of downtown.