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If Macon MSA contained all of the these counties in 2010 it would have a pop of 500,000

I can foresee Macon's Metro expanding and including all of these counties which would bring the Metro pop to about 500,000. • Baldwin County • Bibb County * • Crawford County * • Houston County • Jones County * • Monroe County * • Peach County • Pulaski County • Putnam County • Twiggs County • Wilkinson County http://www.georgia.gov/00/channel_title/0,...02_5067,00.html

I undestand what you are saying but Macon and Warner Robins interact on everything from local business changs( banks, Dealerships, colleges & Etc) to advertisments, TV boardcasting and Middle Ga Economic Development; There alot of Commuting between the two mostly because all the jobs and shoppings are in Macon other than the AF base which is only major employer in WR the others are all in Macon.. Macon is the major Hub for 22 counties in this area including WR/houston county, there is no way the interact of the two is the reason why macon and WR is considered seperate. The only thing that Macon and WR do seperate is local city /county goverment which for WR is in Perry... Other than that i can't see how Macon and Warner Robins are so seperate... this is only interaction they don't particpate with each other... It may be true that they don't interact enough but i can't see it and if you would ask any body who is from or have lived in this area even from WR they would refer to it's as a suburb of Macon, but right now Macon is in about to do a huge 360 degree expanion of the entire Macon city limts to incorprate the large amount of new commerical & residential growth out side the city and if Macon & WR are so seperated, it want be for too long because Macon and WR city limts are rapidly approaching each other.....In about 3-5 years you want be able to tell what is WR or what is Macon..... I don't think i will be surprise to see what the US census has to say about growth, when the next evalution is done for Macon & WR... Because you can see with your own eyes and have experience in the last 2 years the amount growth has taken place in this area....

Hold up, Where are you from obvoiusly not from GA Because my dear Warner Robins is only 15 miles from Macon's Downtown and lies solely between I-75 from the west and 247 on the east which run directly from Macon and I totally agree, that the chart is not a true reflection of Macon's economy, since WR figures should indeed be combined, Macon & WR are to close and interact too much be seperate and for whatever reasons the US census, the state or who ever has the ability to do so was just a STUPID move... I never said that Decatur should be seperate from Atlanta i use it as an example of how stupid it looks to take a surburb and change it into it's own metro....when it doesn't even have a DT area or Judical court center or Etc., It's all in perry, in that case it should be called metro perry... if you know the history WR, it was a village that formed around a small train depot that took growth after RAF base came in to the present. The City Of WR is nothing but huge residential/commerical spot, that seem more of a surburb to me......With out the AF base and Macon, WR would be nothing.... And this is not just numbers or from some out dated chart which has no true reflection on this area which is only a estimate, but i speak of actuallity and from 27years of living experience in this area...

I agree, that chart is not a true reflection of Macon economy, since WR figures should indeed be combined, Macon & WR are to close to be seperate and whatever reason the US census, the state or who ever has the ability to do so was just a stupid move that's about as dumb as putting atlanta and decatur in two seperate MSA's..... There is more than enough, interaction between the two to be combined.... I mean i think WR is closers to Macon than augusta is aiken and in fact it's in another state and they are combine this makes no sense but in the near future i'm sure there won't be an issue with seperation with Macon & WR due to so much economic growth......

Macon is also getting a large 850-900,000 sqft open air mall which open in march of 2008.... and 6 other lifestyle centers in various parts of the city.....Indeed, I think macon will and should get the 2nd airport as well.....Macon's Metro pop is less than augusta but a big plus for Macon is that Macon is a huge economic hub for 22 counties in Mid ga which has a pop of over 650,000 and also from lots of people traveling from the interstates.... so it kind of balances out and make up for macon less pop ..... that why Macon can support so much development....but as far as who will out grow who we will just have to wait and see.... because it's too early to tell...

Yeah that maybe true becasue the construction planned in macon is happening in different phases and at different times as opposed to augusta which is all going on at one time, but if you combine all of what's going on in macon and in the next 3-5 years augusta come no where near... Well here is what Planned in Macon as far a road construction..... some has already started.... 1. as you know about $300 millions huge I-16/75 interchange 2. the interchanges of 475/75 in north and south Macon is being reworked so for example if you are coming from the north on 475 you will be able to make a circle and merge back on 75 north without having to go down the hartley Rd. bridge exit and turn around and drive back up 75, you will then be able to just merge back on 75 from the interchange, so whats going to happen when completed is I-475 and 75 will make circle around north,west and south macon, leaving East Macon and DT connected by I-16.... 3. Dot has planned to also build a large highway though south Macon/bibb county to relieve some to traffic being drawed by the new development..... 4. and the portion of 75 the runs parellel with riverside dr is going to be widen..... And all of these road interchange projects in macon when complete will include fly over bridges....

I'm so glad you decided to add your opinion, not saying that you are taking any side but to show that i'm not the only one who knows about the large road projects in Macon..... I know that it may be hard to see from my previous comments, but my reason for expressing development in Macon is not to say that Macon is better or has more than Augusta or Etc. It good to see all the 2nd tier cities growing eventhough i would to see Macon with the most, but it's good to know that atlanta is not the only city in Ga growing and i just wanted to let people know that your city is not the only thriving city in Ga... and right now the development going in Macon right is so impressive for a city of this size.... And with two cities the size of Macon & WR being so close and both experiencing so much growth(retail & residential) the area has no other choice but to feel like a more larger Metro..... Because people seem to look at Macon as if it's so far behind all the other 2nd tier cities which it not by a long shot..... Macon has lot of Attributes, which help it stand out like having the 2nd largest Mall and hosptial in Ga and largest faculity outside atlanta(centreplex)...

i'm tried of this discussion Macon has just as much exisiting, now under construction and future planned as Augusta the only thing that augusta has morer than Macon is people, there is no reason to contiune this never ending discussion..... Like i said the Us census is just estimates because according to the US census it doesn't even includes all the development what going on right now....

well if they are they need a pay cut because it obvious they are falling behind..... with US census....

You Could not have said anything better, because i'm tried of going on about Macon and Augusta, Because what I say is not wishful thinking but actullality..... Just like wikpedia the us census is only an estimates and numbers which has no way of tracking every single development move when it only take per year..... In my opinion I still rate Macon Number 2 after atlanta....

I know what a urbanized area is that may be true about Augusta, there are 231.79 sq. miles of continuous developed area but you have to consider why Macon is in bibb county which is one of the smallest counties in Ga which is 80% developed with Macon, also Macon's growth run into Monroe, jones & twiggs county... Earlier this year bibb and monroe county has a dispute how they was going to handle the growth of macon into monoe county... and now macon's development is starting to grow into houston and peach county...

Oh yeah, to prove your point, Make sure that you watch the Middle Ga Regional X-mas pararde in DT Macon which show little interaction between metro Macon and metro WR......

Of course Columbus and augusta is going to have more sq mileage because it's combine with the county (light bulb) if macon consolidated with bibb county it would have a higher sq mileage too.. this morning Macon's new mayor wants to annex the size of the Macon city limits because of so much growth... And for the record I'm not the only one who say macon feel or look bigger EVERYONE else said that too.....

Well let me tell you all for the last time, I don't care what the US census, Wikipedia or any other site says Macon and Warner Robins are separate I have lived in the Macon and Warner Robins area for over 27 years and Macon and Warner Robins has always been consider together Warner Robins interact with Macon on everything parades, work/jobs, shopping, Economic development, Advertisements, Phones services, TV & radio. Everything puts them together, nothing in this area shows no signs of Macon and Warner Robins are separate; it’s all listed as the Greater Macon metro area. Macon and WR has so much development going right now that in the next 2-3 years at some point in south Macon you will not be able to tell what is Macon and what is WR.. And this is not from the US census it from me opening my eyes and look at actuality... Commons sense tell us that there are no way us census can keep up with all the current/ day to day development and changes of any area because those censuses are taken by year....not by day.... And in order to see what the increase you would have to wait another year, not what they said in 2005 or 06 but what’s going in 2007. And who ever takes the US census and say that Warner Robins and Macon do not have enough interact to be combine they need to be replaced because it too obvious to anyone that's not true...

Think of what you just said Macon has more interstates access than any city in Ga than atlanta, The little 520/20 ordeal in augusta is something that Macon already with 475/75,Macon aready has 3 interchange that exits and right now the split/interchange of 75/475 is being reconstructed larger in South Macon and when the huge $300 million interchange of 75/16 is conpleted it will give Macon more of a even larger city feel. Just because Augusta has more going at this present time doesn't means " Augusta/richmond county will definitely be the most urban county outside atlanta" I think NOT.....

the only thing I can say is read this article please http://www.macon.com/198/story/208541.html

Exaggerations !!! Augusta does not have double the existing amount of retail space in Macon, for a short time Augusta and savannah wasn’t the only 2nd tier cities with 2 enclosed malls, Macon once had a 2 malls, which was called the Westgate Mall and the present Macon Mall in the late 80’s early 90’s the Westgate mall which included a Westgate cinema was converted into a shopping center… For Existing Macon Retail about 4 years ago Macon had a very huge power center developed, called Eisenhower crossing anchored by Target, Best Buy, Goodys,Old Navy, Dicks, Marshall, Ross, Pet Smart, Home Depot, Staples & Kroger’s which included a host of restaurants and small stores…. Macon has existing locations of pretty every things that in augusta and the only thing that i know that augusta had that Macon did not was 2 Dillards which will soon change in March of 2008 when the new Open air Mall opens...

For the area WR is consider apart of Macon Metro, although some sites say Warner Robins has is own metro and some say it not, but when the galleria is listed as a Macon area Mall... According to everyone favorite site Wikipedia, Macon is the sixth-largest city (by population) and third-largest Metropolitan Statistical Area in Georgia, behind Atlanta and Augusta http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macon,_Georgia#_note-0

Well if you want to include aiken for Augusta then Macon has the Galleria in WRobins/centerville....

Hey expert, you are exactly right Lullwater at bass is an apartment complex but if YOU look across the street you will also see it's lifestyle Retail Center where the ground has been broken and a huge sign which show the renderings of the retail center....lol make sure you have all your facts before you comment.. Well obiviously a lot of people and developers don't know what a lifestyle center is, because that what they all are calling them unless you don't know what one is, Like I mentioned Macon has 7 LS centers underconstruction and you need come to reality about the growth and in macon instead of try to knock the development or act as if augusta has more or say something better.....when it's not... Providence Town Center Shoppes at River Crossing

Lol, Until you can find proof then Macon Mall is the still the 2nd largest Mall in Ga.... Oh yeah the Medical center is expanding as we speak its building a huge 9 story high-rise Cardic center which opens in 2008...

Well we all know by now that wikipedia has a lot of incorrect information from experience of previous topics and forums, but i will find the infor and make sure i share it....

Round three for Macon, 1.) Macon has the second Largest Hosptial in the state, Medical Center of Central Ga, 2.) The Largest Multi-funtional faculity out side of atlanta the Centre plex/Coliseum 3.) the state's second largest Mall...... Wow