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  9. PAWTUCKET STATION THREATENED

    in Pawtucket and Blackstone Valley

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    what blows my mind is why wouldn't PAW/CF work on an incentive laden package with the developer, CVS, other retail/food venders, the DOT and the MBTA on a facility that would have provided all of the desired elements.

    Tax breaks for the developer to ease the risk of taking on the entire project. The developer could have been given a % of parking revenue for any CR parking lot or small garage. The developer would also keep most of the leased space revenues from CVS and any food vendors as part of the train facility.

    CVS could have built a unique intigrated pharmacy/convenient store as part of a new (or rehabbed) train station and shown community involvement/partnership in providing said venue as part of a much needed transportation improvement project.

    The community gets jobs, CR service in both directions (lets not forget that the trains will be eventually be going all the way to Westerly in years to come, including TF Green Airport), economic development, community development, improved infrastructure and value, and pratical amenities...

    talk about a win-win-win!

  10. PAWTUCKET STATION THREATENED

    in Pawtucket and Blackstone Valley

    Posted · Edited by mental757

    Besides GrowSmart, where were the environmental organizations, where were the sustainable transportation people, where was DOT? Were they invited or not? Don't they see what's at stake?

    Rail service in Pawtucket/CFalls is not just about Pawtucket/CFalls! Of all the people I know who commute to Boston from RI, at least 2/3 DRIVE to S. Attleboro to park and catch the train rather than go to Prov. Sure, part of the problem is the Prov schedule (yes, getting better). I know that walking, biking, or taking the bus can be done (see Urbie), but go ahead and count the RI plates in the Attleboro T parking lot.

    I'm not saying this comes as a big surprise to UP types, but DUH the train station is NOT just a Pawt/CFalls issue. Is part of the problem that that voices from the region and the state aren't part of the discussion?

    Number of trains/frequencies that South Attleboro has that Providence station doesn't: 0, zero, zilch.

    They share the same exact number of trains (in fact they are the same exact trains themsleves at 15 per weekday).

    I do agree with this point of view, but must say that the fate of the current depot building does not prohibit or necessarily guarantee commuter rail to PTCT/CF. While I can't speak for the environmental groups, I can guess that the transportation people were not necessarily invited or needed to be there at this stage (why would they want to be under the circumstances) since any commuter rail is years away regardless if it's in the old depot or a brand new facility. My personal feeling is that a rehab of the current depot would be a quicker/easier step towards CR, but not an absolute requirment for it to eventually happen. The issue here is these 2 cities' inability to secure a spot for an eventual station and related positive community development (among other things from what I read in here) and subsequent tragesty that is unfolding with this location from a historical, cultural, and moral standpoint...

  19. IN PROGRESS: Metro Centre Plaza | T.F. Green Station

    in Rhode Island

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    yes, people do travel 7 days a week. But the train may not support enough non-business day traffic to feed just the airport and weekend city events and shopping. Saturday is far and away the slowest air travel day (and the airlines schedule as such). To be honest, RIPTA express buses could run up route 4 and 95 on the weekends until enough train traffic was generated for the airport and city runs.

  20. IN PROGRESS: Metro Centre Plaza | T.F. Green Station

    in Rhode Island

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    a follow up to what he said, has anything been said about a train service either ripta, or MBTA, and what is the word on the lengthning of the runways and having an incoming and outgoing flights section?

    from what I have heard, the MBTA has committed to running 8 weekday roundtrips between TFG and SoSta. I've posted a few articles regarding RIDOT securing 3.5M for the purchase of news cars/locomotive for the expanded service. Since we have until 2009 before the station opens, perhaps the continued success of the Providence weekend service will show reason to extend those down to TFG. Wickford Junction should also open in 2009, so it will take some time to see what the actual travel patterns and trends end up being. It will also depend when/if URI/Kingston and Westerly come on-line for commuter rail. Cranston, EG, and Pwtucket/CF are all hoping to get into the action as well. The more stations that come to fruition, the more likely we will see additional MBTA service and/or Shore Line East or RIPTA-run trains doing some runs.

    the runway extension is still being studied in the EIS process and will be for another year.

    not sure what you mean by saying an 'incoming and outgoing flights section" - sorry, but feel free to elaborate...

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