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On 5/10/2024 at 6:25 PM, nite owℓ said:
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Definitely doesn't give off million dollar vibes, but this is the world we live in. I believe all houses have sold.
It is crazy what a million dollars will get you these days. Especially in the "Park" neighborhoods. I was seriously looking back in 2019 and a million dollars went a lot further in Delaney Park.
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1 hour ago, Ivanhoe said:
I wonder if this new Universal special district will be as heavy handed with DeSantis’ appointed people (largely who have no business being there). In fairness, Universal deserves an unqualified group of Tallahassee cronies to govern their piece of the pie too.
Those board members that were utterly unqualified and publicly bragged about forcing Disney to change their ways are no longer on the board. The new board chair is a local pro business republican as it always should have been.
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RCID made sense because at the time, our rural and poor state could not provide the necessary infrastructure for Disney.
Universal and Sea World both are in the urbanized areas of Central Florida. Their districts do not make as much sense now that all of the infrastructure are in. But if they could carve out an area and pay 100% of their own policing, fire, roads etc, god bless them and let them do it.
I am a big fan of these types of districts and support the creation of them. It is the only way to guarantee tax dollars stay very local.
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4 hours ago, aent said:
You make it sound like it ever made economic sense. Remember, the city already gave massive subsidies here.... first, they subsidized the rent the entire time they were building the new arena, then after subsidizing the rent for years, they kicked everyone out and knocked down what was a reasonable looking city block with street level retail and parking above, rebuilt the facilities such as the police department elsewhere for many millions that probably didn't need it. And then they sold it to the Magic at a subsidized price. If they just did nothing, it would have still looked like a perfectly reasonable city block instead of a blighted empty lot. Its not like there was trash here before they got involved, it was reasonable... yeah, it wasn't great, but it wasn't anything anyone would really call awful.
Edit to add a street view link of this area a decade ago: https://www.google.com/maps/@28.5401728,-81.3832778,3a,90y,287.03h,86.59t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sn-9CCzuTyvhvso_JMoxRDA!2e0!5s20140301T000000!7i13312!8i6656?entry=ttu
I cannot say for certain it ever made economic sense without significant subsidies but the building is gone and the the city need to figure out how to activate the space.
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On 4/24/2024 at 1:59 PM, jrs2 said:
Cannibalism, like with EA. did they say if they would be moving into a build to suit new building for Parramore?
Note: why is parramore underlined in red? isn't that how its spelled?
Yes it is spelled that way and the company would move into the HD Supply building per speculation in the article which I think is right. Doing a build to suit right now for office is crazy unless you have very distinct requirements.
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20 minutes ago, codypet said:
https://www.orlandosentinel.com/2024/04/24/orlando-magic-enterianment-district-incentives-maxwell/
Sums up my feelings pretty well. Couple of highlights:
"I’m rooting for the Magic to make a comeback in the NBA playoffs. But boy, I’m also rooting for a day when this team pays for all its own darn business ventures."
"There wasn’t much time for questions (not that council members seemed to have many), including why the city was even offering incentives for a project that the Magic had already vowed to complete more than a decade ago."
"That is, in fact, the most troubling aspect of this deal — that once again, taxpayers are investing without being guaranteed returns. Other investors aren’t treated like this."
Of course there's also the 10 affordable housing units too. I'm gonna be old man yells at cloud about this development right now.
Because the plan they want makes less and less economic sense as time goes on. Office is a dud in most markets, urban retail is tough, high rise multifamily is not a walk in the park either.
The city is probably looking at their options. Pay a tiny amount of money to get this thing going, or stare at a vacant lot for another 20 years.
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21 hours ago, orlandocity87 said:
I like the local business incubator suites (mentioned in OBJ), but having only 10 of 273 apartments be "affordable" is weak.
So essentially $42.5 million in taxpayer money for a little bit of conference space and 10 slightly reduced apartments. It's cute how the evils of socialism never seem to apply to corporations.
They would need a lot more money to provide affordable housing. Tons more.
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1 hour ago, jrs2 said:
well, with that logic, NASA could launch a rocket and land it on Lizzo's BBW a55...but they haven't, right? So why is Demings fear mongering about something that has never been done?
It seems like a stretch but I absolutely believe some state officials would agree to amend the district. Will it pass, who knows.
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16 hours ago, jrs2 said:
I thought it was broken down county by county; like does any Orange money go to Daytona? that kind of stuff.
No, it stays in the County. But the legislature could change the law.
1 hour ago, jliv said:The original vision was for plots on the left and right of the “lawn” to be commercially developed. That plan failed, so they’ve changed tact. Not sure an amphitheater is the best use of that space.
Yes, the original vision is complete but they have change what they want on the "Lawn".
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1 hour ago, jrs2 said:
um...can they do that? is that normal practice?
The TDT is a creation of the state. So they could vote to change it. I hope not but it would not surprise me.
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15 hours ago, jliv said:
I thought they already completed the vision with Phase 2. “Phase 3” seemed to be a last minute attempt to get a horse in the race IMHO.
Same here. The original vision is complete. Now they are looking at the big pot of gold the TDT produces and they want a share.
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5 hours ago, shardoon said:
Don't know where to put this, but I just saw that FAU is having it's dental school plans put on hold. Looks like it is related to the president search issue. Now, to the militants on here, please don't hijack this to become a Anti DeSantis pissing match.
I am making this post because I am amazing to find out the school was already approved by the Florida board of governors for the state university system. How in the hell did they approve this when there is a dental school already right down the road at Nova? Wasn't UCF rejected years ago because of a "lack of need" in the state?
Can we make it about government incompetence?
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17 hours ago, jrs2 said:
You're right. Cory Mills is the 7th District, which is north of there, now predominantly Seminole and areas to the NE, etc..
However, Dems Darren Soto and Maxwell frost are of the 9th and 10th Districts respectively, which comprise the Beyond Ultimate Corridor to the SW.
So, where is the blame for the democrat(s) directly responsible for that corridor? @Ivanhoe You blame spending $$$ on new RCID replacement signs for the shortfall, and a the false presumption that I-4 traffic near 429 trumps, say, Miami rush hour traffic, or even Tampa traffic along I-75 near the I-4 Interchange. have you even been to those places during rush hour? Is it that out of the realm of possibility that maybe money has been prioritized for those regions over this one? Why do you think they created the OOCEA to begin with back when places like Jax, Tampa, and Miami all had bypass freeways built and Orlando didn't? Because they were bigger than Orlando and, for the most part, they still are.
Also, @jack, Volusia and/or Daytona Beach had to hire a lobbyist to secure funds for the redone I-4/US 92 Interchange, otherwise it would not have gotten done when it did- and Volusia is red. However, Isn't Osceola blue? Isn't Orange blue? So why have those two blue counties sat on their butts and not done ANYTHING to secure more funding for Beyond Ultimate? Why haven't they gotten with FDOT and pushed them to ask the Fed for more money? Volusia did.
And, @Ivanhoeit is hypocritical to blame a Republican for not allotting enough money for the type of project that Dems probably wouldn't support anyway (in lieu of say public transportation). Maybe those two don't care about the Lexus Lanes (versus public transportation initiatives). And if that's the case, how is it DeSantis' fault if they aren't lobbying for it?
And on the public transportation front, what has Soto done to get $$$ for the Sunrail airport link? He's been in office for 3-4 terms now, and that's squarely within his district. That's public transportation, isn't it? And it benefits his district, doesn't it? DeSantis's fault too, huh?
And I find it ironic that the Republican representing West Volusia (6th District) has gotten funding (or will get the credit for it) for the DeLand Station of Sunrail, while nothing has been done for the airport link which falls squarely within blue-controlled territory.
So, @Ivanhoe, before blaming DeSantis, first learn the political landscape of the affected area and look to there first when assigning blame- because it starts at the local level first.
I am not going to go on a rant about the stupidity of the feds funding state roads, butI-4 was/is a P3 project led by former Governor Scott. Which makes sense that a former CEO dealing with the aftermath of a recession would get creative to deliver a large scale project. DeSantis is in a different situation and remember the guy has never collected a salary that was not paid by the government. Instinctively, he thinks government first.
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1 hour ago, codypet said:
Was it Sunrail that Paula Dockery pulled that stunt for? My recollection it was for FLHSR.
Other way around.
20 minutes ago, codypet said:
This is a photo of one of the signs so people can visualize it. They occur along 429 and I-4 everytime you enter the district. So you see this sign just north of Championsgate, then again north of Osceola Parkway going EB. Remember Reedy Creek had no such sign. I believe the Osceola Pkwy one is larger. Likely the same going WB, or SB and NB of 429. Its not the politics of these signs that really bug me, its that as someone who's in highway engineering signs like this one, and the "Florida Open for business" signs Rick Scott pushed to install ruin the integrity for the intent of guidesigns per the MUTCD. They're effectively state run billboards and IMO a waste of money on that front. Similarly, the Turnpikes "Sunpass/Barber Shave" signs fall in that category for me too. We don't need more distractions on the road with pointless signs.
Where do I draw the line between billboard and informational sign? Right here. This teeters on the line for being an ad IMO and the reason is because of the emphasis on the roadway network's own software system.
Whomever approved these should be thrown off of a bridge. Government waste at its finest. No one care that drivers are entering a special district.
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1 hour ago, jrs2 said:
so, when John Mica was our rep, we got Sunrail. Then, Dem Stephany Murphy was bankrolled in. She represents our district for transportation issues etc. So, who exactly is to blame here? Mica got us Sunrail; Murphy hasn't done squat. What DeSantis has to do with this, I have no idea.
I-4 is a state road ran by FDOT. The feds provide money if FDOT/the state of Florida lobbies for it.
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1 hour ago, jrs2 said:
Timeline:
Biden acts like he's senile
F81 raids Miralago illegally ala classified documents pretext (F81 finds data that can be used elsewhere (more to come))
MSM starts talking about Biden's corvette and classified documents he also has (but illegally since he wasn't president when he procured them)
A series of indictments against Trump ensue
Woman X claims Trump sexually battered her 27 years ago. She sues for defamation but can't sue for anything else. Why? Because SOL ran on that possible claim long ago. New York State: No problem...let's change the law (for you) and allow a twelve month window to file a claim for any such alleged act as far back as time began- even if the SOL already ran. Woman X files suit against Trump in a biased court THE NEXT DAY OR TWO DAYS LATER and gets judgment.
Scrutiny on a biased and politically driven DOJ ensues
Colorado removes Trump from the ballot.
NY judge in a bench trial passes a baseless judgment against Trump on a valuation issue where nobody lost money especially the bank (with data they got from Miralago). Even Democrats are stumped.
Prosecutors now want to prosecute Biden for breaking federal law (to appear unbiased- like they were with Hunter). His doctor gives him a mental exam and states "he is unfit to stand trial" because he's senile. Therefore, no prosecution.
SCOTUS tells Colorado to go f*** itself,, and their Secretary of State, some female Leftist who knows nothing about the law, has to eat crow,
What is it that Elon Musk told Bob Iger to do?
A bit out of order and Biden was VP when he procured the documents. The illegality is he did not leave them at the white house when he left office in 2017.
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On 2/21/2024 at 5:07 PM, orange87 said:
Biden considering new executive action to restrict asylum at the border, sources say
Biden said he needed Congresses authority to do this. Clearly he was full of it. Trump did the same exact thing and the Dems threw a hissy fit and a liberal judge struck it down
You are right, Trump did it and it was struck down by the courts. Which is why Biden needs congress to pass legislation. If Biden follow suite, it will be enjoined. So he is either purposefully considering a EO to prove he doesn't to have the authority, or to pretend he wants to do something but the courts and congress are in the way.
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17 hours ago, orange87 said:
Florida lawmakers vote to ban social media for kids under 16
I see the benefit of this, but it's just a little weird they'd make this a law. Seems like something parents should decide, not the state. Also seems like it will be difficult to enforce.
May not pass a court challenge, but parents rights my butt. We decide what is best for you. Collectivism at its finest.
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16 hours ago, JFW657 said:
Maybe, if Nashvillians blasted their country music as loudly as their speakers were capable of everywhere all the time including out of the trunks of their cars, your comparison might be valid.
But they don't and it isn't.
Also, if country music had an aggressive and underlying antisocial tone or glorified gang violence etc, you might also have a point.
But it doesn't and you don't.
No offense intended.
BTW, I've lived in Florida since 1965.
You?
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13 minutes ago, orlandocity87 said:
The Under I-4 project is back as "The Canopy" — with some fancy elements but mostly parking. Supposedly breaking ground next year and taking two years to construct.
50/50 parking and green space is not bad. I still prefer something active like courts, etc.
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20 hours ago, jrs2 said:
they don't count "economic" reasons as legit asylum seeking.
but several "reporting entities" have reported on the Dorien Pass, and how there are thousands of Chinese males of "military age" bypassing this piece of real estate and coming into the US with all of the Latin Americans. This has been reported by many outlets.
We can say that but all of these asylum seekers know the magic words to be let in. They also know that it will be years before they can be properly processed because of the back log of the courts. At that point, they are rooted and will never show up for their hearing.
23 hours ago, orange87 said:I forgot. We're now calling everyone who illegally enters our country an "asylum seeker."
We are not but that is the law. Which is why we need a congressional fix. But..........when pigs fly.
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16 hours ago, JFW657 said:
I haven't seen any data about the average net worth of illegals, but it stand to reason that they'd be poor. The wealthy and middle class are the ones who stay home because they aren't facing the kinds of conditions that the poor are. But be that as it may, if these people are willing to work, which I believe most of them are, the kinds of low-skilled and unskilled labor they provide is something that our economy badly needs.
If they are allowed to come here and work for six months out of the year, return home then come back again the next year, it would provide our economy with a steady supply of workers willing to do the kinds of jobs American workers are not willing to do. Plus, it would greatly help them and their families by improving their standard of living back home.
But as long as the issue is being exploited for political gain, everybody will suffer.
It used to be like that in the old days. Plenty of migrants worked the harvest season and went back to Mexico afterwards. We need a system like that again.
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18 hours ago, JFW657 said:
I think it's after 5,000 people are APPREHENDED WHILE TRYING to cross the border illegally.
As for the work visas, American companies benefit from the labor these people provide. They pay income taxes and if they're here to work rather than become involved in crime, that's a good thing.
It looks like conservatives just want to stop Mexicans and Central American Hispanics from entering the US period.
That is my understanding. The big deal is that it modified the asylum system which is causing all of the problems we see. Fix that and the border will get a lot better.
But why fix something when you can campaign on it. Obamacare 2.0.
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