[Nashville as MLB Expansion/Relocation Market]

Plenty of room for a stadium & some neighborhood over there on the east bank.

Questions for another East Bank stadium are all about the $$$: $2B in land value? $1B in remediation? $2B for stadium?

Can't imagine the city and state put up more than $0.5B total, compared to the $1.25B of government aid for the Titans.

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[Davidson East: East Nashville, Inglewood, Madison, Donelson, Hermitage, Old Hickory]

5 hours ago, BnaBreaker said:

The Nashville special... a large residential building that gives the superficial appearance of being urban, but in reality, is basically just a large blank wall separated from the main street by a large grass strip which can only be entered into from a tiny door that fronts a parking lot in the back.  In other words, it isn't designed to be walked to, it is designed to be driven to.  Ugh. 

I think this is as much about city responsibility for building streetscapes that people (and developers) will want to interact with. Dickerson's 5-lane stroad ain't that today, and probably won't turn into that in the next 5 years.

If we want developers to build street-facing buildings like you've described, we gotta legalize that density on minor roads (think Wedgewood Houston) or make the major roads a lot more pleasant (not sure if Nashville is doing this anywhere yet...?).

[Reed District: 8 towers ranging from 8 to 44 stories (500'?), 1.5 million sq. ft. office space; 1,000 residential units; 150K sq. ft. retail space; 250 room hotel on 12 acres at NE corner of Broadway and 16th Ave. North]

1 hour ago, Rick Dalton said:

May start to see some more action soon. 10 year treasury rate is down 75bps from the highs and investors expect the Fed to start cutting rates early next year. I doubt they cut, but the rapid increase of rates to cool inflation is likely over since inflation has moved down to 3%. 

Off topic but rent metrics in the inflation calculation are absolutely going to continue to come down over the next 12 months.

[Surrounding Counties - Cheatham, Dickson, Montgomery, Rutherford, Sumner, Wilson, Williamson, Maury, etc.]

1 hour ago, smeagolsfree said:

What a holy waste of land! Only 68 homes on 600 acres.

That has to be a function of Franklin / Williamson County growth boundaries, right? That close to downtown Franklin, half a mile from Westhaven, most developers would be density-maxing!

[Project Thread/New Construction/Photo du jour/Const. CAMs]

12 hours ago, chris holman said:

 

What did the East Bank look like in the 80s and early 90s?

[1711 Broadway (20 stories, 245', 396 units, 5,900 sq. ft. retail, 396 capacity internal garage)]

Paging captain doom and gloom to tell us how this project's forward progress is a bad thing

[NEUHOFF PLANT DEVELOPMENT, 14 stories, 6-7 stories, 650,000 sq. ft. office, 175,000 sq. ft. retail, 550 apts, 50 hotel rooms, 2,000 car internal garage, $500+ million]

Fun little lookback from over 15 years ago:
 

 

[Project Thread/New Construction/Photo du jour/Const. CAMs]

On 10/22/2023 at 6:22 AM, markhollin said:

Courtesy of music_city_living:

Pictures like this keep me wondering how long it will take for the state to let Nashville start acting like a big city on state-owned roads.

 

I see 7 lanes for cars and maybe 2 sidewalks of maybe 6 ft each.

 

Insanity to continue only dedicating public ROW to cars and not dedicate space for higher-capacity modes of transportation. I don't care if it's wide sidewalks or if it's transit lanes, but literally anything would be a start.

 

https://nacto.org/publication/transit-street-design-guide/introduction/why/designing-move-people/

[Inside 440 - Berry Hill, Midtown, Vanderbilt, 12S, WeHo, Fairgrounds, etc.]

On 10/28/2023 at 11:07 AM, markhollin said:

Haven Charlotte (9-10 stories, 316 units, internal garage) update.

Looking south from Charlotte Ave., just west of City Ave:

Looking SE from intersection of Trevor St. and 33rd Ave. North:

Looking SE from I-440 where it crosses over Charlotte Ave:

Haven Charlotte >>>> way better than Haven Gooch

[Hillsboro Town Centre (22 stories, 270', 264 units, 11,555 sq. ft. retail space, 485 capacity garage)]

The building here is being built on a property zoned "SCR", described below in the Parcel Viewer - same as the 18-story Vertis mixed-use tower.

SHOPPING CENTER REGIONAL, INTENDED FOR HIGH INTENSITY RETAIL, OFFICE, AND CONSUMER SERVICE USES FOR A REGIONAL MARKET AREA.

Could any of the other "SCR" zoned properties highlighted in red in the screenshot below be built up to 18-22 stories? Or is there some contextual component to the height/density allowed on these parcels? (I'd love to see Nolensville pike get some 20-story mixed-use towers at Harding & at Old Hickory.)

[Inner Loop - CBD, Downtown, East Bank, Germantown, Gulch, Rutledge]

17 hours ago, Luvemtall said:

Wonder if this will lead to the State selling off all those surface parking lots around JRP and Rosa Parks

Nah, just an opportunity to turn the Polk building into another surface lot in a couple years when TPAC moves.

[Project Thread/New Construction/Photo du jour/Const. CAMs]

3 hours ago, markhollin said:

Courtesy of broadwaynashville:

Hundreds of people, maybe a dozen non-police cars, and yet 3x the space for vehicles than people.

[Nashville Bits and Pieces]

Good points, @Luvemtall... I think that if growth is the priority, consolidation is clearly better, as it enables the more cohesive partnership.

If preservation of the status quo is the priority, then having a more fractured government structure feels like an advantage. The folks in Lebanon don't have to let those meddling Mt. Juliet newcomers intrude in their traditional way of life haha.

[Urbanism Meet-Up : June 29th - 10:00 AM to Noon; Location Cooper Branch (601 Church Street)]

16 hours ago, WebberThomas4 said:

Really sad. I think hugh baby’s and vui are all that remains

Went to Hunter's Station on Sunday. There's just three tenants, Hugh Baby's, Vui's, and a new Acai Bowl place. Comments in the East Nashville facebook page and the Nashville subreddit indicate that Hunter's Station owners recently jacked up rents to their tenants.

[Amazon: The Thread | 5,000 Jobs | 1M SQFT in Nashville Yards]

Forget using their massive lobbying arm to upzone Nashville, let's just subsidize demand.

 

[Surrounding Counties - Cheatham, Dickson, Montgomery, Rutherford, Sumner, Wilson, Williamson, Maury, etc.]

5 hours ago, markhollin said:

Wilson County: Lebanon's Lifestyle Communities (590 multi-family units, and a GOAT restaurant/social club) is now wanting to add a LC Guest House Hotel to the project. It would be 3 stories with 16 total units.  The whole complex will be south of I-40 near South Hartmann Drive.

More at The Tennessean here:

https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/local/wilson/lebanon/2023/09/20/hotel-coffee-shop-and-restaurant-coming-to-lebanon/70866773007/
 

The LC concepts are really impressive - probably the only apartment brand that actually carries any cache in my mind (unlike Haven, which has negative cred). With their on-site restaurants, they're technically mixed use - adding in a hotel next to the apartments is a logical next step in that mixed-use concept...

[Nashville Bits and Pieces]

On 9/16/2023 at 11:54 PM, dragonfly said:

Let us define boondoggle. How about when you build something that makes no sense, economically, practically or even from a safety standpoint.

These are vanity projects. Or feel-good projects. Or 'help me with my city envy' projects, the very definition of boondoggle. Even Brookings (nadvertainly) agrees with me:

https://www.brookings.edu/articles/the-10-u-s-metro-rail-systems-that-lose-the-most-money-per-passenger/

We have attorneys in Houston that specialize in rail accidents: https://attorneybrianwhite.com/houston-practice-areas/metrorail-accident-lawyer/

A Rice University prof was killed walking her bike across tracks laid where tracks shouldn't be, alongside streets. Train/motor vehicle collisions happen all the time like this one: https://abc13.com/houston-news-train-crash-metro-ambulance/13189836/

I mean really crazy. And people ride wihout paying as a rule around here, I've seen it over and over. Sucking hundreds of millions every year down the drain.

 

Nobody tell this guy how much the state and local governments spend on asphalt for public roads.

[The Transportation and Mass Transit Megathread]

On 9/16/2023 at 12:38 AM, rookzie said:

Nashville's growth evolved more as "outward" than "upward" (vertical), so it's no wonder its has had major bottlenecks, given that it has sizable surrounding suburbs and exurbs.

This has to be the foundation for any conversation on transit in Nashville. The demand for living in downtown/midtown/east Nashville is sky high, as evidenced by high rise apartments and sky-high rents. Successful transit requires a high density of jobs and people to be worthwhile, which means that we'd need meaningful upzoning around any light rail (and around BRT stations) to further build a ridership base. That's part of why I think the Metro plans for Hickory Hollow are so underwhelming, if we want the Crossings to be a regional center with a transit hub.

[East Bank – I-24 to the Cumberland/I-24 Overpass up to Jefferson – 338 Acres, Nissan Stadium, "Imagine East Bank"]

The biking connection for the pedestrian bridge into the east bank as illustrated here is pretty bad.

A person bicycling east over the river headed towards Shelby Park would be stuck looping under the bridge pointed north, around a switch-back, and then back under the bridge headed south towards what's currently Davidson.

[The Transportation and Mass Transit Megathread]

On 9/8/2023 at 1:05 PM, PaulChinetti said:

It would be super cool to have a street car from 1st all the way down to Centennial Park. 

Free streetcars (for tourists & downtown residents alike) have been a boon for Cincinnati's and Kansas City's downtowns. A Broadway streetcar from the Parthenon to the Cumberland would immediately be bigger than KC's 4k/day ridership, and it would connect

• the East Bank (Titans)
• Lower Broad
• the CBD
• the Gulch
• Nashville Yards
• Midtown dealerships
• Vandy
• Centennial Park
• and the hospital district.

Plug that into a future Murfreesboro Pike light rail, and airport tourists can do downtown Nashville without ever needing a car.

[Davidson Southeast: Antioch, Century Farms, East of Brentwood]

On 9/9/2023 at 5:03 AM, markhollin said:

Century Farms:
 

Has Metro or WeGo yet announced public transportation plans in the Century Farms area?

[Davidson Southeast: Antioch, Century Farms, East of Brentwood]

They're thinking too small - this area should be a hub, a major draw with significantly more housing and height, and less surface parking.

[Davidson East: East Nashville, Inglewood, Madison, Donelson, Hermitage, Old Hickory]

On 8/14/2023 at 7:45 AM, bwithers1 said:

Concur.  And that was even with a MDHA Design Review Committee permit.

In 2025 the East Bank Redevelopment District expires, leaving only the Gallatin Road UDO in place, which makes even the “urban” building placement and glazing requirements in the base zoning voluntary. This UDO was put in place after a court threw out the former Gallatin Road Improvement Plan SP that had placed urban requirements on building permits in the pre-Nashville Next days. A property owner sued Metro over that and this UDO making urban requirements “voluntary” was the result.

Canceling or replacing that UDO would require outreach to all of the affected property owners, and it would essentially be adding restrictions back onto to their properties, albeit just the -A district base zoning requirements. Unless, of course, there was an effort to add new requirements. The UDO question would be complicated, and may be impacted by the nature of the prior lawsuit that threw out the previous SP.

How much does the incoming District 5 CM know or care about this expiration and the UDO? Feels like a situation that the entirety of East Nashville would benefit from some experienced guidance.

[Inner Loop - CBD, Downtown, East Bank, Germantown, Gulch, Rutledge]

Big fan of the aesthetic - mass timber with its big openings allows for a really cool neo-industrial look combining brick and big windows.

[Davidson East: East Nashville, Inglewood, Madison, Donelson, Hermitage, Old Hickory]

1 hour ago, markhollin said:

A bit more info on the potential hotel project at 701-707 Main St:

Omega Hotel Group (which owns 14 hotel, including Holiday Inn Express in MetroCenter and Hyatt Place near the airport) hopes to acquire properties at which are located two empty buildings. The structures previously housed a Subway and a UPS Store, among other businesses, that were heavily damaged in the March 2020 tornado.

The Hasty family plumbing business has owned the property since 1972.  In early 2021, the property was offered for sale for $6 million. However, updated marketing materials note $8 million.

No word y et on what the final sale price will be, nor the size and brand of the hotel being considered.

More behind the Nashville Post paywall here:

https://www.nashvillepost.com/business/development/hotel-developer-looks-to-buy-east-nashville-property/article_b9c6b0ea-2a65-11ee-aa77-c38449a019a5.html#tncms-source=login
 

This screen shot from Smeagolsfree's excellent development map shows the site highlighted in teal at the center of he frame:

For the zoning/planning gurus (and councilmember) on this board, between the UDO, UZO, and MDHA that all apply to the lots, what tools does the city have to make sure this hotel development turns out more like Waymore (formerly Fieldhouse Jones) and less like 941 Main (building formerly known as Bridal Suites)?