[Nashville International Airport Development thread]

On 5/3/2024 at 3:15 PM, Bos2Nash said:

but but but, these oversized roads lead to massive economic development. Don't you guys know anything?!

I don't know how else to explain this but this post feels like "opposite day Argo"

[Davidson East: East Nashville, Inglewood, Madison, Donelson, Hermitage, Old Hickory]

15 minutes ago, Baronakim said:

Wierd but more appelling than so many plain vanilla boxes going up here.  Certainly distinctive.  They must be are a huge departure from the rest of the neighborhood though. What do the nearby residents think of them.  i suspect they are appalled and pissed off.

Man I wish property rights were strong enough that what nearby residents think of the aesthetics of a couple new builds was unimportant.

[The Transportation and Mass Transit Megathread]

There's no ban or prohibition on it. But it's not a priority for Amtrak's shorter routes (which include Nashville-to-Atlanta and Nashville-to-Memphis).

Amtrak's long-distance studies are looking at those bigger routes that will require Nashville-to-Louisville connections.

https://www.trains.com/trn/news-reviews/news-wire/fra-releases-long-distance-study-interim-report-invites-comments/

[Davidson East: East Nashville, Inglewood, Madison, Donelson, Hermitage, Old Hickory]

12 hours ago, markhollin said:

The project consists of 17,000 sq. ft. of retail or restaurant space, a 120 room, 4-story hotel, and up to 340 residential units, including a pool courtyard and a central gathering space.

I know this is a huge departure from what's currently there, but this doesn't feel nearly ambitious enough.

[Music City Center, 1.2 million sq. ft., $623 million]

Fewer skybridges make for a better city. They pull humans / humanity out of the streetscape, leading to less interaction with neighboring parcels & uses.

[The Transportation and Mass Transit Megathread]

5 hours ago, smeagolsfree said:

If this is phase one let's say, what would you all think phase two would be of the transit plan? (OR) What would you want Phase two to look like or be?

I think this is a start for transit, but it is not a catch all or a full plan for Nashville. It touches on some areas of Nashville but not others.

So, what do you think or want?????

Real transit alternatives for the 47,000 daily commuters from Rutherford to Davidson and the 41,000 daily commuters from Williamson to Davidson. Commuter rail is a tough sell because those counties are so sprawled; park and rides would be a must in the burbs, but real commuter rail on CSX tracks to Franklin and Murfreesboro would go a long way.

[Oracle, 60 acres at River North, 1,200,000 sq. ft. of space, $1.2B Investment, 8,500 jobs]

4 hours ago, downtownresident said:

I think it caught everyone off guard. It's good to hear from the top that the campus is still a major priority. Hopefully we get to see some of the initial plans soon. 

Old-school billionaire exec just spouting off plans before they've been finalized, run through the company's expensive communications department, syncronized with local governments. Makes me think plans aren't close to finalized, still years out.

[Inner Loop - CBD, Downtown, East Bank, Germantown, Gulch, Rutledge]

Don, you have a deal, with the condition that the State auctions off one parking lot parcel with 15+ story height allowances.

[1010 Church Street (60 story/750', 500 unit residential tower, 7 story/60,000 sq. ft. YMCA addition), $350 million]

On 4/7/2024 at 8:32 AM, smeagolsfree said:

I think that with all of the financing in place, the lenders will demand that the project be held to the timeline set in place by the developer now with the completion date of 2027. This means they will have to start in the next month pouring concrete to get the building topped out within two years as we discussed at the meeting yesterday. 

Armicing, if you will drag you rear end to the meets like you used to do from the outer dwarf planet of Sedna years ago you would at least get into the conversation. I did you a favor by getting you unbanned and reinstated onto the board so at least show some respect please.

Also, Kevin, please play nice.

Man I love forums. Social media just doesn't deliver the years-long popcorn-ready back-and-forth that forums do. 

Also is 1010 Church the final name? It's a fun callback to 505 but feels a little uninspired for a new tallest.

[Nashville International Airport PHOTOS (BNA), Airlines and Flights General discussion]

lol Tennessean "Grand Rapids, Missouri"

[Davidson West: Bellevue, Bordeaux, Green Hills, MetroCenter, Nations, N Nashville]

6 hours ago, smeagolsfree said:

I live in a new subdivision, however if they changed the rules that allowed duplexes and more in my neighborhood I would be pissed. I bought in a neighborhood that allows only SFH and that is why I am here. Don't change the rules on me after I have lived here for 25 years. That is what a lot of folks want.

I think this sentiment is the crux of the housing cost issue in hot cities like Nashville. Developers building cool new buildings is fine in downtowns and on corridors (and encouraged on a site like this!), but new and bigger buildings are verboten anywhere there are already single family homes. It's like an unspoken contract.

This country has built that expectation in all of us since the FHA started building suburbia in the 1940s, and the voting power of the homeowner-class is larger than that of the renter-class in most cities, so politicians have little incentive to change the status quo, even as neighborhoods get pricier and pricier (lucky for me as a homeowner; lousy for the Gen Z 20-somethings I work with who can't break into the market).

Meanwhile, family-sized homes and neighborhoods close to the city & nearby to jobs become ever more expensive due to limited supply and growing demand. Not saying we have to build Logan Circle townhomes everywhere in Nashville, but it's kinda BS that neighborhoods like Edgefield and Hillsboro are locked into detached luxury homes when they're less than 2 miles away from a booming downtown.

 

[Modera McGavock (formerly Hotel Broadway plan), 29 stories/325', 400 residential units, 16,000 sq. ft. restaurant/retail]

5 hours ago, nashvylle said:

3 below grade / 4 above grade. This is final level. 

So by the end of April we could be into that roughly a story per week phase?

[Modera McGavock (formerly Hotel Broadway plan), 29 stories/325', 400 residential units, 16,000 sq. ft. restaurant/retail]

How much more parking podium on this one?

[Davidson West: Bellevue, Bordeaux, Green Hills, MetroCenter, Nations, N Nashville]

Darn, I was already firing up my "Save the historic 'Belle Meade - ish' Taco Bell" petition.

[Project Thread/New Construction/Photo du jour/Const. CAMs]

3 hours ago, markhollin said:

Photo taken at 7:00 AM on a Sunday. 

Sounds like the answer is "sleeping it off" then?

[The Transportation and Mass Transit Megathread]

They're proposing BRT on West End, but only out to 31st Ave (just past Vanderbilt). The current West End bus route (the 3) is only the 6th busiest in the city, behind:
Murfreesboro Pike (BRT proposed)
Gallatin Pike (BRT proposed)
Nolensville Pike (BRT proposed)
Dickerson Pike (BRT proposed)
and Charlotte Pike ("Transit Priority Corridor" which I interpret to mean "Bus Lanes where there's enough right-of-way width for them, mostly inside 440).

 

[1010 Church Street (60 story/750', 500 unit residential tower, 7 story/60,000 sq. ft. YMCA addition), $350 million]

On 3/19/2024 at 8:00 AM, henburg said:

I don't know a lot about economics, but unfortunately this is not the mindset of developers/investors in Nashville at all from what I've seen. Outside of maybe AJ Capital in Wedgewood-Houston and the group behind River North on the East Bank, it feels like most are afraid to be pioneers in this city.

I'm not saying this tower is dead yet either, but I think that a lot of us are trying our best to rationalize and mislabel what is likely a delay. I hope I'm dead wrong on that, but it just feels like I've seen this movie before. It's frustrating too because apparently it's relatively simple to build two towers with an added height larger than one consolidated new tallest in this city.

AJ and Tony have a personal connection to Nashville (maybe an emotional connection too?).

But if a developer has either a build and hold strategy or more influence over their investors than average, building through a downturn can make a lot of sense.

[Project Thread/New Construction/Photo du jour/Const. CAMs]

4 minutes ago, MLBrumby said:

That is an amazing example of curb front residential garage b/c it's stone like the wall. Atlanta has a lot of those in the near-east neighborhoods built in the 1900-1930 timeframe. They were typically NOT connected to the house. Often, they were added after the house was built.  There are many around Chattanooga. I've heard there are some in the Northshore and Lookout Mtn. & St. Elmo that do connect because the houses are not far from the garage. 

I always think of St Elmo when I see these garages!!

[Inner Loop - CBD, Downtown, East Bank, Germantown, Gulch, Rutledge]

37 minutes ago, chc3 said:

Cherry blossoms on 1st Avenue N yesterday afternoon 

This is what sidewalks on Broadway should look like - yes or no?

[Hillsboro Town Centre (22 stories, 270', 264 units, 11,555 sq. ft. retail space, 485 capacity garage)]

On 3/3/2024 at 5:28 AM, markhollin said:

Topped-out at 22 stories.  Tallest building in Green Hills.

Looking SW from intersection of Hillsboro Pike and Richard Jones Rd:

Looking south from Hillsboro Pike, 1/4 block SW of Warfield Drive:

Looking east from Hillsboro Pike, 1/2 block SW of Warfield Drive:




Looking NE from Hillsboro Pike, 1/4 block NE of Overhill Drive:




Looking west from alley between Hillsboro Pike and Kimbark Drive, 1/4 block SW of Warfield Drive:




Looking west from Warfield Drive, 1/2 block SE of Hillsboro Pike:

I love this. No reason we shouldn't be allowing this kind of height and density in nodes all around Nashville (BMP, Green Hills as positive examples vs the low-rise redevelopment of Bellevue Center and the 3-to-5 story proposals for Hickory Hollow)

[The Transportation and Mass Transit Megathread]

The Federal Railroad Administration released a study last month with several long-distance routes that Amtrak is looking at restoring to service.

This is in addition to the short-haul routes that have been announced, studying Nashville to Memphis and Nashville to Atlanta via Chattanooga.

Major routes through Nashville include Chicago-to-Miami (restoring the Floridian train service) and Detroit-to-New-Orleans, an extension of the Humming Bird route that ran from Cincinnati to New Orleans.

[Davidson East: East Nashville, Inglewood, Madison, Donelson, Hermitage, Old Hickory]

Huge! Hope SLC will rethink the Gallatin Road frontage to be more interactive with the street, as it will be a lot more pedestrian-friendly pending future BRT post-referendum.

[Mid City (1501 Broadway, 8 acres on Broadway, 7 towers of 20-35 stories, 1.3 million sq. ft. office, 1,000 residential units, 150,000 sq. ft. commercial/retail)]

Not to mention the gravitational pull of a couple thousand residences, hundreds of jobs, and a bunch of commercial space. That stretch of I-40/65 is going to continue to be a nightmare though... if I'm Williamson County, it's time to start agitating for commuter rail from Franklin & Cool Springs into the Gulch.

 

[Nashville as MLB Expansion/Relocation Market]

On 2/23/2024 at 10:56 AM, PaulChinetti said:

Right past the 24/40 split on Murfreesboro pike. 

 

Somebody get Paul a cut of that sweet Mortenson money for site selection!

[Project Thread/New Construction/Photo du jour/Const. CAMs]

Still so much surface parking (and 5 story garages) that can be developed inside the downtown loop! Can't wait to see 2034's skyline