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Gatlinburg tourism isn't bad at all. I much prefer Gatlinburg's tourism over say Atlanta's tourism.
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Yeah Nashville is looking like Gatlinburg.
Four Seasons, Ritz Carlton, Omni, Conrad, Grand Hyatt, JW Marriott, One Hotel, Edition Hotel, W Hotel.
Umm hmmph. Very Astute.
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3 hours ago, natethegreat said:
I think Nashville should be leaning more into the historic “Athens of the South” moniker, in order to continue attracting Oracles / Amazons.
So if Nashville doesn't do the historic "Athens of the South" moniker, it won't continue to attract Oracle or Amazon. So why are Amazon and Oracle here?
3 hours ago, natethegreat said:What if we built a new performing arts center on the river? Or a museum of modern art?
There's already a performing arts center and an art museum.
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This building went from a 23 story box to 16. Alas, that's the Nashville way.
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The Embassy Suites building is a jumbled mess. They conjured up everything they could think of and slapped in on. It didn't work.
The One Hotel is an uninspiring box. Plain and simple.
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The best pizzas in the southeast that I've had were in Memphis and Atlanta. Memphis and Atlanta have better food scenes overall than Nashville.
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How Nashville is on a best pizza list is beyond me. Nashville is not a food city.
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I'm trying to like this building something about it is lacking. It's just a skinny box connected to a wide box.
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On 3/23/2022 at 6:11 PM, natethegreat said:
You guys have to remember that it wasn’t too long ago that Nashville’s peer cities were the tier of Memphis, Birmingham, Louisiville, etc. Only recently has Nashville been able to compete with Charlotte, Austin, Tampa, etc. It’s like going from Double A to Triple A - it’s going to take a bit to adjust.
That being said, Nashville metro grew faster than all of those peers (except Austin) in the latest census. Nashville also has a key advantage over a number of peer cities (Charlotte, Atlanta) in that it has a real leisure tourism industry. This leads to more hotel / restaurant development. I think Nashville already punches above its weight in the culinary department, and is now adding a bunch of high tier restaurants.
Nashville’s relative disadvantage is that it wasn’t booming in the 1970s-1990s, when many office towers were built. In the WFH era, it’s hard to envision as many pure office towers will be built.
In short, Nashville has an advantage going forward, but a disadvantage looking backward. The current skyline is a backward looking reflection, which is why Nashville many not currently be as imposing as its (newfound) peers.
You guys have any idea on how Nashville can get out of the rut it's in?
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11 hours ago, downtownresident said:
Active lawsuit by residents from City Lights challenging the Overall Height Modification approval for both projects. I’m not a lawyer, so I could be misinterpreting what I’m seeing, but it looks like a hearing is scheduled for tomorrow according to the chancery court website.
I hope the plaintiffs win their lawsuit because both the 500 2nd Ave and Park Place projects could use a much needed redesign.
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I agree with the prevailing sentiment here. Nashville is behind, if not far behind.
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1 hour ago, Baronakim said:
How much do you get paid to be an architectural critic? If you expect the Sidney Opera House, the Pickle or the Shard, you are SOL bro. When you come up with a way to make cut stone or brick as economical and insulative as glass curtainwall, I am sure you will be the most successful architect since Frank Lloyd Wrong.
The development companies are worth hundreds of millions if not billions of dollars. They can afford to develop stunning, iconic buildings that have flair. But they choose to be cheap and not do it.
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3 hours ago, nashville born said:
Agreed. This one adds a completely different look to the catalog and I'd hate to see it altered. It both breaks the squatty box mold and brings height to the circle, which is currently home to three squatty kings (805, Westin, and JW). Count me as one who isn't put off by the backside of the tower. And if that 10th and Lea project ever materializes, those who are might get some relief. Until then I'd try and console them by saying, at least it ain't the Westin.
I agree for the most part. The exception being is that I think this building should be redesigned completely. I'm also very disappointed with SoBro as a whole. Nothing there is actually appealing. The art work called Stix isn't. The towers currently there aren't. Circle South, the Ritz buildings, The One Hotel and the Embassy Suites are just glass boxes. The roundabout itself is a confusing mess traffic wise. And the Music City Center which spurred all of the mediocrity there is very underwhelming both internally and externally.
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I agree with everyone here. For the past year the nation's economy has been going downhill. And it looks like the decline is accelerating even more than it did in '21. This is in stark contrast to the way things were in '19 and even '20. Hopefully Nashville's developments won't decline because of the current economy.
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On 3/9/2022 at 11:47 AM, Luvemtall said:
the inner core circle should not build anything that is less then 20 stories.
Yeah the land there should stay unoccupied indefinitely until developer sign contracts with metro that requires they build no less than 20 stories. Love this kind of rationality. Makes sense.
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On 3/10/2022 at 7:48 AM, Luvemtall said:
All these new and upcoming projects throughout our great country are exciting . But the one question I have is ; why does it seem that all the proposals in almost every city ( even the smaller ones) have creativity and flair and Nashville keeps getting boxes? Sometimes same architectural firms, same development companies, but we get blue glass box and painted stucco.
I agree. The Pinnacle, Albion, Circle South, Prime, and Moore are all boxes.
Very astute.
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2 hours ago, Luvemtall said:
Does that statement allude to the fact that you actually have intel?
With deference to the grey poopahn commercials......
But Of Course.
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Amazing how all of the geniuses continue to always be wrong.
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Interesting in that for some reason metro gave a thumbs down to Shades but doesn't have a problem with this project.
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I saw somewhere there was a Music City Center 2 suggested because they said they were losing very large conventions. They even had a rendering. It was smaller than City Center One and would have been used to augment City Center One.
It would not surprise me at all if they have some convention component in mind for any new stadium.
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735 ft. for the first tower and 659 ft. for the second one.
Impressive.
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2 hours ago, nashville born said:
I am calling Metro and the developer every day about this one. Excuse me, about to place today's calls!
How do you find the time?
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34 minutes ago, PillowTalk4 said:
That the office tower will be 50 stories?
Dude if the office can't get tenants it won't get built at any height. Developers have trouble financing 9 story office buildings without tenants yet alone 50 story buildings.
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19 minutes ago, Armacing said:
I wonder what ever happened to "Scorcher"?
Maybe "Scorcher" got Fired.
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Paseo South Gulch (Phases 2 & 3: 30 & 16 stories w/ 390 residential units, 183 room hotel, 18,000 sq. ft. office, 14,000 sq. ft. retail; Phases 4 & 5: Another 30 story tower w/ 396 units, a 22 story office tower, 1,500 capacity internal garage)
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This design is just blah! And it's a box to boot. Just run of the mill design that you see everywhere else. Nashville really needs stunning architecture.