sethM
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Dunno, I've never went to the Hall. I street park if I'm driving to anything else in Ivanhoe.
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That makes total sense. I don’t do a lot of grocery shopping so when I went in there I didn’t know if everything was super expensive or I was just that out of touch. It’s a tough sell when you can go to the Aldi down the street and pay half the price.
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I wish they could take those tourism dollars and put it towards making downtown parking cheaper. Charging for parking when there’s not realistic alternatives to driving is such a poor business decision by the city. If I lived in Ivanhoe I’d be pissed about the parking situation. The Yard was built with the promise that they would provide food hall and guest parking but as soon as they decided to charge for it half their customers decided to park throughout the neighborhood. Those nearby streets absolutely suck to drive down because they’re all full of parked cars.
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Yes, $3 an hour paid via website. Too difficult for casual eaters and shoppers.
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Ivanhoe badly needs a public parking garage. The parking lot across from Imperial or the empty lot by Parisian would be perfect.
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You have to zoom out and look at the guy running it and see what he was wanting to get out of it. The idea was to open a radical new concept, generate a ton of buzz and investor interest, and then immediately expand all over the country. By doing this you can do the tech company approach of disrupter followed by figuring out how to make money later. Traditional food hall is the obvious choice but then investors would be basing their choice to invest based on the financials which I'm sure were piss poor. Unfortunately for the guy it looks like investors were smart enough to also realize the full service food hall concept is stupid.
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The Hall was evicted yesterday, surprised it lasted this long. Such a terrible concept and execution. It never fit the neighborhood and there was no desire to fit the neighborhood. Good riddance. I'm sure they'll find someone new to manage it but with the food hall in the packing district opening in a month it's a terrible time to reboot.
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Anyone have info on the food hall? Looks like the building is more or less done, just needs a build out of the stalls. I’m hopeful that it turns out better than The Hall with its idiotic sit down version of a food hall and valet parking. I also have to assume it’s coming but it’d be nice if they redid the sidewalks and bike lanes where The Packing District and College Park meet. I walked it last night and it feels a bit sketchy, like at any point I might get hit by a car. Although once you’re in The Packing District it feels fairly safe despite being next to cars doing 45.
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Everyone who has gone to the Citrus Bowl in the past few years will tell you the biggest issue is the stadium operations. Concessions take forever and run out of food, bathroom lines are a mile long, etc. None of these renovations will solve the core issues. This also highlights the absurdity of the TDT fund rules. $400M burning a hole in our pocket and this is all we can think to spend it on? Financial malpractice.
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I'm just going to say it, the only reasonable way into downtown is Uber or driving. Uber is going to be at least $30 and parking is going to be at least $15. Most people have no interest in paying that to go to a restaurant or shopping area for a couple hours. The city should take some of that tourism money away from the Citrus Dump and subsidize parking. Long term vision would obviously be reasonable public transportation but that's going to take a long time to fix.
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I know it’d never happen but I’d love some light rail that goes on a regular car lane. Princeton from OSC to the Walmart, and another down Edgewater to the arena.
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I walked the area going to the farmers market behind the YMCA and can echo Jerry’s comment on the streetscape being very well done. I was worried that the Princeton/OBT intersection would divide the area but they did a great job making a massive intersection feel approachable even if you’re on foot. The only issue I have with the place is it’s too gentrified. It’s a former industrial area located between OBT and JYP but they’re putting in a Kelly’s and Foxtail? I can’t wait to be severely let down by the food hall being similar to The Yard’s food hall.
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I have to preface this with I had a number of beers before coming up with this idea. Totally block off Orange between Princeton and Colonial, then Virginia from the lake to Mills. Install some free parking garages on the corners and add a free street car to connect it all. Totally bonkers but would make the area super neat and cut out all of the annoying through traffic.
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And just had their first arrival an hour ago. We've finally made it. https://twitter.com/MCO/status/1572315618866778113?s=20&t=BSD2IUoXc5Hl9gh8Msb4Uw
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I loved that design, would be fantastic for the area. The multi use path is only successful in annoying both bikers and pedestrians equally.
