[The Gateway Site]

1 hour ago, distortedlogic said:

There is just no way to make a building that wide and that flat at the top look like anything other than a box. We already have too many boxes in Greenville IMO. I mean wouldn't it be really easy (and no real extra cost) to take about 6 floors off one of the corners and move those appts to the top of the middle of the building? Something like that would greatly  reduce the boxiness of the building and give the "roofline" 3 layers of height... bingo, no more box. Heck, that would also give Greenville a new tallest. I can't be that difficult to make it look decent.

 

 

Counterpoint: who gives a crap. Whatever it takes them to get shovels in the dirt faster, do it. Rubber stamp every application. No need to look a gift horse in the mouth

[Charlotte Gateway Station and Railroad Improvements]

On 9/23/2023 at 5:57 PM, kermit said:

This is the first tangible news I have heard about a temporary station

Just dropping in from Raleigh to say this would be the biggest boost to my use of the rail to Charlotte. I don’t give a rip if the ticketing office is a pup tent, as long as it isn’t in the middle of nowhere with zero transit or pedestrian safety like the current station.

[Rhett Street mixed use development with hotel.]

22 hours ago, vicupstate said:

What is in the foreground of this picture? I thought the project booked for that lot was dead. Is that wrong?

[BridgeWay Station mixed use development-Mauldin, SC]

points for enthusiasm but the whole thing is kind of a non-starter. I don’t think I’m being a cynic by saying that a minor league soccer stadium in Mauldin probably won’t make money. Very few publicly funded major league stadiums in major metros actually make money. It just never really made a whole lot of sense 

[BridgeWay Station mixed use development-Mauldin, SC]

18 hours ago, GvilleSC said:

Because it would illustrate that he didn't need the County's tax payer money from the start... 

I am really trying to understand how this makes sense and am drawing a blank. He will greedily use his own money instead of asking the city put it up? I’m a small sample size but I get the sense that developers are more popular when they don’t use public money.

[BridgeWay Station mixed use development-Mauldin, SC]

Wow, a Hughes development with a large publicly funded anchor. What a novel concept!

[The State of Downtown Retail]

16 hours ago, gman430 said:

I stand by my statement. Every single retail and restaurant spot should be filled downtown. No excuses. 

**L’Internationale intensifies**

[N&O Site]

9 hours ago, carolina1792 said:

Acquisition Group was DAYS from breaking ground on this project before it was delayed due to the pandemic and now being rezoned to 40 stories.

When I was a kid and my parents asked me to do something, I was always “just about to do it.” Take that with a grain of salt

[Laurens Road Corridor]

I’m assuming this means there has been a development in the developer’s… um… legal troubles

[The State of Downtown Retail]

On 10/21/2021 at 4:18 PM, StrangeCock said:

If restaurant closings are directly attributable to sitting Presidents, I would LOVE to see a list of all the restaurants that closed in Greenville from Jan. 2017 - Jan. 2021. 

The thing about Trump idiots is that other than being puerile, unoriginal, and inconsistent, they are also deeply, shockingly stupid

[Union Bleachery mixed use development.]

2 hours ago, gman430 said:

 

Why? Because it’s actually getting built with space getting leased unlike all of these other proposed projects? Just because it’s not in the utopia of the City of Greenville doesn’t mean you have to hate it. Don’t get mad at Hughes for building what he promised. Get mad at Haywood Mall, Verdae, Magnolia Park, etc for not building what they promised. 

Speaking personally, I hate it because it looks like someone went to Florence, smoked crack, and then tried to recreate it by building a shopping mall. I know Phil Hughes has some weird Italian thing but this is taking it a little far. Why are the trying to replicate a ruin? I’m fairly certain this will end up looking more like a Tanger outlet mall but hey, go nuts

[Grand Bohemian Hotel]

On 9/16/2021 at 1:04 AM, apaladin said:

Statue destined for the hotel.

 

Looks dumb!

[Proposal: Downtown Convention Center]

23 hours ago, gman430 said:

If freaking Cobb County in Georgia can build a $600 million baseball stadium for the Atlanta Braves there is NO reason why the City of Greenville can’t do $150 million for this. Dorothy Dowe and Russell Stall are right. They only have one chance at this. The city needs to put up or shut up. Go big or go home. 

That was also famously lauded at the time as one of the most egregious public cash grabs in which Cobb County got fleeced, so, um, maybe not the best analogy 

[Kimpton Hotel in the West End]

Any updates?

[David Francis at East Broad Streets.]

Did this ever get vertical construction started

[Proposal: Downtown Convention Center]

5 hours ago, gman430 said:

City of Greenville, Greenville County, SC Arts Commission, LMN Architects, LS3P Architects, Windsor Aughtry, Hughes Investments, CSL International, HR&A Advisors, A Stan Davis Consulting, Hughes Agency, Bob Jones University, and Greenville County Museum of Art are now all involved with the project.

Y’all got all worked up into a lather for this? Lol. For the most expensive Center for South-Mid-Atlantic Trade Shows/Exhibition of Homophobic Art in the 21st century it really leaves you wanting more

[The Gateway Site]

It’s been said on this forum before but the bowl and the change in grade that made the site so prime for an auditorium also make it really challenging for anything else. That’s why the ugly wall is up, so pedestrians and wayward cars don’t go crashing down 15 or so feet.

It’s probably not totally insurmountable but I’m sure the geotechnical work and the nearly impossible traffic patterns mean that investors and developers would rather spend time and money on other projects.

all those things seem also like they’d make it difficult to accommodate parking on the site necessary to meet any minimum requirements.

[Unity Park (New 160 Acre West End Park)]

On 8/11/2021 at 4:29 PM, NewlyUpstate said:

Does anyone know if the city will be doing anything in recognition of smaller donor amounts (and approx brackets if so?)

 

[Cameron Village Developments]

Imagine getting upset bc someone voluntarily renamed a shopping center with a Flying Biscuit. Lol what a loser

[570 W. Washington St.]

On 7/6/2021 at 9:59 AM, gman430 said:

Why would anybody want to live directly across the street from where all of the homeless people hang out at Miracle Hill? No thanks. 

Yikes. Great point Ebenezer

[Proposal: Downtown Convention Center]

I mean I’m fine with the incentive itself, it’s just hypocritical that it comes from the same people withholding federal benefits to force people into low wage jobs

[Proposal: Downtown Convention Center]

5 hours ago, gman said:

I know a lot of successful developers. None, and mean none, are lazy. Besides, these developers are not asking for and getting the “cheese”. Greenville is getting it.

Lol it’s not the developers getting the money it’s just the City that will turn around and use it to build the convention center that will both literally and figuratively prop up the rest of the development. Let’s be honest with each other here.

The point is not that government incentives for development should be verboten. Far from it. But if the state should shovel money into convention centers to indirectly expand growth, it’s inconsistent to then say the state shouldn’t support things like unemployment insurance or things that directly benefit working people (and oh by the way positively affect the economy as well). In that case, the only thing that’s consistent is that the state works to benefit the Hughes and McMasters and good ol’ boys of the world while everyone else gets the shaft. The more things change the more they stay the same.

[Proposal: Downtown Convention Center]

13 hours ago, gman430 said:

House budget includes the $19 million for this project. Slated to pass by the end of the month with signature by the governor shortly after. 

Wow, Foghorn Leghorn signing off on government cheese for lazy developers that don’t want to work. Sad

[The State of Downtown Retail]

The unemployment benefits were enacted to help human well-being (you know, the ability to pay rent and buy food), and not to prop up the labor market. Complete apples and oranges.

Most of the “data” used to justify these cuts are based on anecdotes, and in fact the science suggests it doesn’t matter: https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2020/07/31/unemployment-boost-not-top-reason-people-do-or-do-not-work-yale-study.html. 

So when Marblemouth McMaster and the fat cats at the Chamber of Commerce say  “my buddies think that none of you will work their $10.00 jobs because you’re getting UI, so nobody gets it anymore”, I’m less than pleased.

[United Community Bank Corporate HQ project.]

1 hour ago, Skyliner said:

I would greatly prefer the new building's placement directly adjacent to the sidewalk, similar to the current building.

Sir, this is an Arby’s.

 

seriously though I have walked that exact stretch of sidewalk many, many times, and there’s an infinitesimal chance that “West of Church Street” could possibly communicate with “East of Church Street” and so as long as the building focal point is toward he Bowater/Bohemian interchange you’re not losing out on much.