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3 hours ago, smeagolsfree said:
You are correct as I did not see the 800 million. Easy to overlook and my apologies. Again, that money has to be pouring in on a consistent basis. Not so sure the 2.2 billion us even close to the last in Nashville as that does not include the money that is being spent to reroute Donelson Pike and building a new diverging Diamond interchange. More long-range plans being made for the 2nd terminal.
We have our own issues as the State is more than likely going to take over the airport authority from Metro because the Metro Council didn't allow the Republican National Convention to be held here. The State legislature is doing everything in their power to take power away from Metro Nashville and will do the same to Memphis.
That is wild about the airport authority. We've been dealing with crazy stuff with the state legislature for years (and recently along with Nashville as the national/world media has covered). We have a lot more in common than people like to admit. It can be a fun sibling rivalry on the internet at times but we really need to stick together
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A report is coming out in July about rail connecting the Big 4 cities of TN:
Memphis Flyer | State Officials Plan Passenger Rail System to Connect Tennessee’s Big Four Cities
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1 hour ago, MDC26 said:
From frequently visiting Memphis my whole life, and living there for 4 years, never went down Broad until after the changes. Didn't go down Sam Cooper all that often. I remember when there was the "Sam Cooper Sniper" that was shooting at cars. Yes, Sam Cooper was originally going to be I-40. It stops at East Parkway because it was halted from cutting through Overton Park by the lawsuit. So instead, the I-240 North loop was constructed. They already cleared the Sam Cooper area, as well as the Cross Town Mound area. Not sure if the roadway for Sam Cooper had already been built by the SC ruling, or was just cleared.
Interestingly, Binghampton was a rural suburb of Memphis, that was annexed in 1919. The storefronts on Broad was the downtown area for Binghampton. Funny how that layout was the best thing for growth and development of a city, and is still so valuable now, but we can't do it that way anymore. Just have to preserve what remains.
Yep, definitely a cool and interesting history
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57 minutes ago, MDC26 said:
I didn’t even know there were historic buildings on Broad when I lived in Memphis in the mid 2000’s. Then after moving away, and moving back to Arkansas, I learned that this area that I had no idea even existed, had been completely revitalized and was very vibrant.
57 minutes ago, MDC26 said:I didn’t even know there were historic buildings on Broad when I lived in Memphis in the mid 2000’s. Then after moving away, and moving back to Arkansas, I learned that this area that I had no idea even existed, had been completely revitalized and was very vibrant.
Broad was a somewhat rough area- there were the old storefronts that are now revitalized with not much in them but an old bar/Broadway Pizza and some industrial type companies and warehouses across the north side that are now being torn down and replaced with apartments. It was really more of a cut through as all Sam Cooper traffic emptied onto Broad right at Holmes before the Sam Cooper extension was finished in the early 2000's. From what I recall and was told the whole path of the Sam Cooper extension was already cleared out in the 60's-70's before I-40 was put on hold following the Supreme Court decison to stop it from being built through Overton Park and basically cut off Broad from the rest of the neighborhood and cleared out a lot of homes and apartments along the way and just sat empty for decades.
Fast forward to the early 2000's and the Sam Cooper extension opened and Broad was used even less and then by the late 2000's/early 2010's you begin to see the push to revitalize it and I definitely think it has a lot of potential, very impressed with what's come along so far.
Becoming one of my favorite areas of town!
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18 hours ago, dxfret said:
It’s hard to believe two of the tallest downtown Memphis buildings are both long vacant and continuing to deteriorate. Sadly, both 100 North Main Street and the Sterick Building have become highly visible, monuments to urban blight. The prospects for renovation of either building are low, especially in the current economy. This situation has been going on for many years and remains a huge eyesore and negative for all of Memphis.
Is it that hard to believe? You post it once a week on almost every single thread. Cool screen name bro.
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1 minute ago, MDC26 said:
I do too. If we got an NFL team, that’s probably the name I’d want. Might need a little updating to the colors and graphics, though.
Yeah, and since then the Grizz and 901 FC have had blue/yellow colors... could definitely be part of a theme.
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I always thought the Pharaohs were a cool nickname from the Arena Football team of the 90's.
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After all this we could be getting a Lake Carlisle?!?
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3 minutes ago, MDC26 said:
The tax structure is out of whack if you have to give every project massive breaks just to make it feasible. But, giving tax breaks does not cost any money. At what point should the city be giving a project millions of taxpayer $, and guaranteeing their debt? Does this set a bad precedent?
This has been my thought since July or whenever when Carlisle came back and said they had to have the backstop or it wouldn't happen after they'd already done site work and I was under the impression it was a 100 percent go. I never felt as confident since...and I'll be honest if this is the third try of a high rise Hyatt at this site that was approved and good to go after 17 years I'd be happy to see a 2 story Days Inn built at this site just to call it a day and know something will be built there (half joking :).
But really I am not sure if I should be mad at Strickland or the city, they did seem to try to compromise time after time and Carlisle has not been exactly friendly in the media in the past 4 months towards them...and again with the third try on their part to get a tower built at this site and the second failure of Strickland to get a convention hotel it's all just frustrating as mentioned before.
I almost ready to give up lol, but yes it reveals a lot of issues with Memphis getting big projects even somewhat off the ground and I'm not holding my breath on anything else big for the foreseeable future with the way things are with the economy now... and I do think it ends up setting a bad precedent because none of these projects are feasible here without the tax breaks which the developers end up taking advantage of and asking for more extensions after the fact and then yet the projects end up dying completely... so why on earth would someone else come along and then see how things are done here and the cycle just repeats itself as I've witnessed the past 2 decades in this town.
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3 hours ago, MDC26 said:
The design looks great, but I'd still much rather have a soccer stadium at the the CA site or South Forum. I think the Coliseum could still be useful. Would be nice to have it renovated and get back a hockey team. Would also be great for a WNBA team. They are planning to announce expansion cities by the end of the year, doubt Memphis is in the top 10. The updated Coliseum could also be used for smaller concerts, wrestling, graduations, and championship games for local tournaments.
I don't even know why they tried mentioning keeping some of the Coliseum in the design of the soccer stadium, and then say, but most of it would have to be torn down. Looks like all of it would be torn down.
Yeah, back in 06 or so when it closed I was all about tearing it down but over time- I don't know if it's actually time or that so many have been so passionate about not tearing it down because we still "need it" after being replaced twice basically (3 times if you count the Landers Center) that I was on board with finding something useful for it but in reality with the no complete clause I just don't know what you could do with it unless you scale the seating back which in my mind seems pointless almost because it'd be harder to get hockey or whatever else as a guaranteed tenant back to it. And the group that has been trying to display it or whatever has had several years and nothing has come of it.
Plus, back to the Landers Center- it did take its hockey team away in 2000 and it didn't have a tenant since then for the last 6 years it was open. The Landers Center is being renovated so it's not like it will stop getting the shows it gets (which seem to be mainly more country anyway than Memphis seems to ever get).
And a lot of the argument is we need to renovate it to take shows back from Southaven.... but would that actually ever happen? Concerts and touring have changed since the Coliseums heyday. It's not going to get 100 shows a year like it did in the 70's no matter what and things that are already going to the Landers Center aren't going to all of a sudden say we're going to the Coliseum because I wanna be in the Memphis city limits. They're still just going to look at it as going to Memphis market. Plus throw in Snowden in Southaven and Radians Amphitheater in Memphis is getting a decent amount of shows for smaller things, plus you have the Forum and even the Overton Shell as well. On top of that no one knows what's up with Mud Island which I'd prefer over the Coliseum if we're going to spend money on older concert venues when I'm not sold either are really needed.
On top of that-- the soccer stadium could hold 15,000 for concerts-- which is probably close to the Coliseum in seating-- and outdoor venues don't have to worry about the no compete clause- so what would we really be losing and not gaining much more in return? And also-- the renovated Liberty Bowl would be updated for modern bigger tours as well-- so right in the same complex we'd have two basically new concert venues- a 50,000 seat stadium for bigger shows and a 15,000 seat stadium for others-- again imo we'd be gaining more than we have now. And if we have two modern venues at Liberty Park that could hold different amounts of outdoor concerts than do we really need to renovate Mud Island as well? LOL...sorry, a lot of possible scenarios here!
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1 hour ago, Memphisborn said:
I was big on seeing it at CA site, however I can live with Faigrounds area. The design looks very nice, hopefully this can land NWSL franchise as well. One thing that’s really cool is the proximity to Overton square/ Cooper young. Also let’s keep in mind all that’s being built around stadiums retail/ entertainment two hotels/ apts. . There is still 17 acres old coke factory that the city controls ripe for more entertainment development bars/ restaurants etc this could end up if done right a major sports Mecca complex.
It’s definitely a win. Would love to see the old coke factory developed as well.
Yeah that's my thought as well- they are already adding residential/hotels/entertainment so it's not like it's going to be the fairgrounds of old where you just park in a suburban style lot, go in and watch a game and leave. And yes I didn't really think of how close Cooper Young/Overton is also which is slowly blending into one area down Cooper St.
I agree about the Coke factory but I believe I saw they were just going to use that as parking for the Liberty Bowl? Which is unfortunate since it could be more.
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6 minutes ago, VSRJ said:
Although I agree that a stadium downtown would be nice, I'm not totally opposed to having a secondary athletic complex closer to the center of the city. We have two amazing stadiums downtown, but a third certainly wouldn't hurt. I guess I'm indifferent.
I agree. Also it gives the Coliseum site a new use, we've been watching it sit for 16 years with no real ideas thrown out there that would work. And with soccer having a summer season woudl give the fairgrounds more activity throughout the year. Also, it won't be downtown but with the new mixed use coming to Liberty Park it'll still have bars and things to do around the stadium. Seems like a win/win in the end.
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How recent talk are we dealing with? I haven't heard anything since pre-2019 and haven't heard since. Some things have happened since then I've heard that have delayed some other things. And that might be an understatement.
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Agree with both posts above-- I was under the impression the residential portion was already supposed to start before hotel/office/etc and figured that would've been easier to get going since there's still more residential projects that are getting built downtown. And with regards to One Beale I felt the same way and that's what scares me. Seems to be the same situation with a looming recession- came back with a similar plan and then they had other issues after the second proposal with the father dying when it was supposed to get off the ground and had to re-group and then came back with the scaled down plan that's finally been built (I can't recall all the details) but it eventually got going and still seems to be getting a hotel tower in the original planned spot (although also scaled back a bit). So I am hopeful but skeptic as always as I've become accustomed to around here. Hopefully something comes out soon...not sure I'd think of it as a Lowe's debacle. With that there seemed to be a lot more city involvement with plans etc including 100 N Main. At least with this the developers knocked down about 30 acres of blight that was an eyesore heading into downtown-- so hey, at least a clean slate for whatever may happen.
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Varsity Spirit opens new HQ in Uptown Snuff District
Varsity Spirit opens new HQ in Uptown Snuff District - Memphis Business Journal (bizjournals.com)
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The area around the Paradiso and the towers/Brookhaven could really use a makeover and become more dense for sure. And at some point I'd hope all of Oak Court Mall will be repurposed into something mixed use. It is struggling and malls have been dying for years but the companies that own them seem to let them die a very slow death.
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13 hours ago, TheKernel91 said:
In another universe, if Memphis kept up with ATL's growth rate going into the 70s and beyond, Poplar Ave would = Peachtree Ave. In alot of ways, Poplar Ave is that for Memphis similarity for our economy.
I hope I can post this link. This blog post have alot of history on Memphis. This just to reference my quote of some of apartment buildings that never got built in E. Memphis over the years since the 50s. They listed which ones that got built and didnt with there renderings.
http://cremedememph.blogspot.com/2019/06/memphis-tall-apts.html?m=1
Love this blog, really informative.
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12 minutes ago, MLBrumby said:
That seems like such a shame, especially with the infrastructure bill that passed last fall. BTW: Have you seen any infrastructure project kicked off as a direct result? Memphis has long suffered from poor leadership and representation on every level public/private.... and this may be a prime example. I've never thought much of Steve Cohen as a person with class/dignity, but he's in the majority in Congress. You mentioned that I-69 hasn't been built in many areas of AR, MS and TX... but that's where good regional leadership brings together a consortium of representatives, especially when your representative is a member of the majority party. Memphis is smack in the middle of that route, and as noted above the Blue Oval project would benefit greatly from its completion.
This isn't the only example of how it seems to me (an outsider) that Memphis' leaders need to cast their nets wider in their influence and efforts. My wife and one of our kids just visited Memphis.. returned today. Iasked them what they thought. Our adult "child" answered, "I liked it a lot... almost like if New Orleans and Nashville dicided to get together and have a baby." That made me cringe because I know there's a lot more to Memphis that's unique (not defined by any other cit). but I think it's positive. So much potential, and I know there's a lot of great things bubbilng up downtown and even in other parts of the metro. I've also heard the airport looks great. I think Memphis is going to be fine, but why is it so painful to watch?
They've actually been working together to push a 3rd bridge over the Mississippi which is greatly needed (as seen last year with one shutdown)-
From what I recall I-69 has been stalled by both federal and state funding for years, should definitely be pushed and also would add another bridge but farther south in MS.. also still very much needed
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7 minutes ago, The Guardian of Memphis said:
Would be nice to have Millington as the next up-and-coming suburb, especially with its proximity to downtown. If only I-69 could be built from 385 to TN300 as well as the Second Street extension, which would make the commute faster.
I'm hopeful that Blue Oval City will speed up I-69 getting completely built in Tennessee but haven't heard much about it recently.
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Madison Lofts under construction- corner of Madison and Diana a few blocks from Overton Square.
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25 minutes ago, MDC26 said:
Think Southern Heritage Classic will continue since Jackson St is pulling out?
Hopefully, this will give the final push for someone to renovate the MSC. Won't look good to have everything nice, new and shiny in Liberty Park, then have a blighted arena right in the middle of it.
I heard they are trying to find a replacement but not sure what'll happen.
Yeah, I agree about the Coliseum. I think something will happen eventually, hope this spurs interest.
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Agreed. With the cost it would take to buy land for a new stadium (plus lack of land available on/near campus) I figured they'd go this route and it looks a lot better than I was expecting. Plus I figured with Liberty Park underway and the fact the Liberty Bowl and Southern Heritage Classic also come into play it'd be harder to convince the city and everyone making decisions to fund an on campus stadium for the Tigers. Looks great.
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Haslem was the mayor of Knoxville, think you are thinking of Phil Bredesen, he was mayor of Nashville in the 90's and Democrat who became governor. I definitely think Lee has done a lot for Memphis/West Tenn recently. Please bring as many Blue Ovals as you can lol.