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2 minutes ago, demhem said:
The question I have is where do they park their other sports if only football goes to the OVC? Horizon League? I can see a rivalry with Oakland University and Detroit Mercy in basketball and other sports if that is possible.
Horizon League does seem to be the rumor.
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54 minutes ago, cstonesparty said:
This kind of begs the question of WSU... they've got to be making same calculations and looking at their options...
Seems logical. A large state university in the heart of Detroit and a large state university in the heart of the Grand Rapids metro area. Both could do well for themselves with the increased money.
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Just now, cstonesparty said:
Relevant article from The Lanthorn: Moving On Up? GV Athletics disputes football recruits’ claims of a move to DI – Grand Valley Lanthorn
Yep. The damage control denial. All while saying the GLIAC is on life support, Division II is a dying fruit, the "entertaining looking at some possibilities." It's happening. They just don't have the logistics fully ironed out yet and the news broke prior to their set timeline of announcement.
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6 minutes ago, cstonesparty said:
I wonder if there are other GLIAC schools making this move with GVSU. It would be challenging to have 100% of away games be so far away for fans, and disappointing for the rivalries to all disappear...
I could see Wayne State having the money and size to do it. They're currently the highest paid university in Michigan by the state. I don't see Ferris State or SVSU having the financial ability to pull it off. Ferris' D1 hockey program already costs them a small fortune.
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11 minutes ago, GR_Urbanist said:
I cannot reveal my source, but the story is not fiction, but has caused friction with some faculty that are not sold on the idea.
I'm sure. With Division I status may come a change in academic philosophy toward being more of a research institution than they are currently.
With this move, Grand Rapids could begin hosting NCAA Division I tournaments. The Van Andel Arena would be the logical choice with GVSU being the host institution. This could have quite the economic impact on the area if that ends up happening.
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9 minutes ago, cstonesparty said:
why on earth would they join OVC instead of MAC? The regional alignment is awful...
Money and ability. A move to FCS is already going to double their scholarships for football alone. FBS would tack on another 20. Also, I don't believe you can receive an invitation from an FBS conference without having first competed in FCS.
9 minutes ago, gvsusean said:Not to mention the stadium is too small…
The stadium would be too small for FBS, but not FCS. I'm sure, though, that a move would lead to a stadium renewal and addition of maybe an extra 10,000 seats. Just an assumption on my part, though. They already go way beyond the current max of 10,000 seats when playing a local team like Ferris. A 20,000 seat stadium when you sometimes draw 16,000+ would be a logical move.
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According to interviews with football recruits committed to GVSU, the coaches have been telling them GVSU is moving up to Division I with football competing in the Ohio Valley Conference in the Football Championship Subdivision (FCS) by 2023. GVSU's athletic department has hired a donor relations director for the first time in school history, which tells me that they're preparing financially to make the jump. The school has been denying the claims, but everything points to it being damage control in light of the players getting out ahead of their process.
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On 9/12/2021 at 9:03 AM, grandrollerz said:
This looks ambitious, but will go over really well I think. keep it up Muskegon!. https://grbj.com/news/architecture/adelaide-pointe-development-takes-shape/.
10 18,550 sq ft units? Surely that’s a mistype.
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On 5/11/2021 at 9:52 AM, joeDowntown said:
This falls in the category of People NOT Talking about Grand Rapids. WSJ did an article about Greenville SC, Provo UT, and Des Moines IO as the darling cities of post-COVID recovery. I wonder how Grand Rapids fared based on their metrics. They talked about a mix of "affordable (but steeply increasing)" housing, manufacturing bouncing back early, diversification, proximity to nature (not Des Moines). I was actually surprised to NOT see Grand Rapids in this article:
Joe
Provo won't last long since the west is becoming uninhabitable. It won't be long before we start seeing Grand Rapids on the list of best climate refuge cities.
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On 7/13/2021 at 8:56 AM, grandrollerz said:
I eagerly await Mike Freed's long form letter to their board about abandoning their duty to West Michigan to stay exactly the same forever. /s
Metro Health didn't sign an agreement with the federal government stating as such.
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On 6/29/2021 at 8:32 PM, walker said:
So U of M is renaming Metro Health. I guess I can understand them wanting to put their name on it but what an awkward name to say. Nobody will ever say such a mouthful in everyday conversation:
Metro Health to be renamed University of Michigan Health-West
I thought UM Health was renamed to Michigan Medicine. Shouldn't it then be called Michigan Medicine West?
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On 6/29/2021 at 12:27 PM, grandrollerz said:
anti-windmill arguments don't hold (back) water any longer.
Source:
(https://twitter.com/BrentToderian/status/1409509199634042884?s=03)
(https://twitter.com/BrentToderian/status/1408690103078178816?s=03)
The top picture will likely be the bulk of the coastline in the next 30 years to some extent. Miami Beach has seen a 400% increase in sunny day flooding in the last decade. They're having to develop systems that keep the water out and they're raising their roads up.
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3 hours ago, MJLO said:
Sometimes I wish Wyoming would give up on trying to be an independent city and just merge with GR lol. A GR at 280k people in 70sq mi would be a lot more nationally relevant
Agreed. The place has little to no identity. It’s split between five school districts, has no downtown, and has a long suffering commercial corridor on 28th. Southwest Wyoming (the 49418/Grandville schools area) could merge with Grandville and the rest could merge with GR.
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I had always thought of Greenville as more Kalamazoo-like than Grand Rapids-like.
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22 going on 12.
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Prediction?
I predict Rivertown Crossings will be as lifeless as Westshore Mall with all of the stores that are closing up and Brookfield will still do nothing to save it.
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15 hours ago, walker said:
According to MIBIZ Flaherty and Collins, are out:
MIBIZ: gr-officials-pivot-after-lack-of-incentives-infrastructure-challenges-doom-development
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21 hours ago, walker said:
Don't know why exactly it was in this thread but back in May 2019 there were some posts about the Detroit Pistons buying their own G league team and having it play at Wayne State in Detroit and what then would happen to the GR Drive.
Today in the Detroit Free Press is an article stating they've done it, the Pistons have bought the Northern Arizona Suns, a G league team, and will be moving it to Detroit to play at Wayne State. The article speculates about what will happen to the Drive:
freep: detroit-pistons-grand-rapids-drive-g-league-whats-next
Detroit only fills a small fraction of its seats for an NBA team. Why would they think Detroit area people would show up to a G League team?
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I honestly question if we’ll ever see a rebound in the convention industry.
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1 minute ago, NoDustBusterNoMore said:
That parking ramp has been a small claims liability for over a decade. It was never designed to last as long as it has. I'm amazed they would add to it unless they plan on repairing what they have now.
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13 minutes ago, MJLO said:
I walked by it a couple weeks ago and thought that it looked better than I expected lol. Though I typically don't think a lot of the buildings that go up are nearly as bad as the group does. I must have very little understanding of what constitutes architectural good taste.
I have no issue with the building itself, had it been a completely separate building. The issue is that they connected it to CHS and then even extended a small part of the design language into it and then went all in on the new design language. This specific design would have looked better across the highway near Finkelstein Hall.
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We knew how ugly this building would be. They tried to make it an extension of the CHS building while transitioning to the new standard design language of the university and it came out looking like a dumpster fire in the side-by-side. GVSU's decision making is questionable at best and this architectural blunder is just a representation of that.
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13 hours ago, MJLO said:
Understood. More the point I was trying to make was this event is unprecedented and we can't possibly predict how it will impact migration patterns. The narrative of peoples statements have been economy bad = people leave Michigan. Historically that's true. But never at any point has the economy been bad simultaneously everywhere. So simply defaulting to that logic doesn't factor that in. Where will they go? The traditional sunbelt refuges are getting hit equally as hard.
If not worse. Florida is just now shutting down and I believe other southeastern states have still yet to do so. While we're looking at a peak in early May, they have to be looking at a peak of July as a result of their fiddle farting around with half measures until the problem exploded. Their economies will suffer more as a result. Meanwhile, California and Washington (once the epicenters of the early infections) seem to have peaked already because they locked down early. Their economies will likely rebound the quickest.
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On 3/28/2020 at 5:41 PM, RegalTDP said:
On that note, hopefully we won't see Ottawa County get realigned into its own MSA again. That would ruin everything. I am 100% for more suburban development in Eastern Ottawa County that brings commuters into Kent County.
It's definitely happening in Georgetown Township. Areas are high development are as follows:
Jenison - Cedar Valley Associates is expanding in Cedar Lake East and will start developing the new lakes north of Fillmore in the next couple years. Cedar Lake West is also seeing a lot of development of high-end homes.
Hudsonville - Eastbrook has grown Lowing Woods into a massive development. Bosgraaf and JTB are building quite a bit in Hagar Park West, Alward Estates, and Highpoint. Eastbrook has also grown its development quite a bit in Jamestown.
Grandville (Zip) - Summerset has seen a great deal of growth in the last few years. They'll likely max out their land allotment in the next two years.
Where Ottawa County is lacking is north of the Grand River. There are some nice homes with a lot of land, but there is nothing in the line of high density development. I feel like that has the potential to be the next boom area as Georgetown starts to max out on land.
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Grand Rapids to have a Division I school?
in Grand Rapids
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The GLIAC has lost 8 football playing schools since its height in the 2010s. Hillsdale, Ashland, Findlay, Walsh, Lake Erie, Ohio Dominican, Tiffin, and soon to be Northwood are all small private colleges that went to form their own conference. They couldn’t compete financially with the big publics in Michigan.
Conference leadership has done nothing to solve the problem. Hence GV’s current predicament.
I wonder if Grand Action 2.0 would get involved to make such a stadium happen.