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26 minutes ago, Luvemtall said:
Someone that was living here at that time, was that you? Do you recall any talk of such sports arena?
Yes. And, no. I would have only been 2 years old. That being said, I've heard many stories in my life of varied aspirations for our beloved city. Some that could be substantiated. Others, well mostly urban rumors and exaggerations. I can't say that I ever heard about plans for a 100,000 seat stadium. Maybe some other old time natives might know.
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8 minutes ago, Luvemtall said:
Looking at the surrounding structures and the scale of this model. I’d have to say that it definitely looks like 100,000 could be accurate, and apparently it was for Baseball. Maybe Nashville was a perspective candidate for MLB back in that era also, or just speculation on one’s perspective. Maybe a old time native might have the correct answer.
Define "old time Native" ... that might be me... LOL!!!
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13 hours ago, MLBrumby said:
The online Tennessean posts slide shows from decades past. This month includes photos from May 1964. Here's one I found fascinating with the caption that was included for the picture in the print edition.
Drane Harrison, left, display manager for Cain-Sloan Co., surveys the location of the 100,000-seat sports arenaproposed for Nashville as Irving Hand of the Metro Planning Commission, explains details using a scale modelon May 28, 1964. The model is part of a detailed exhibit of Nashville's future on display in the old Loveman’s building.Jack Corn / The Tennessean
One has to wonder... if that was a typo and should have read 10,000. If it wasn't a typo, then one has to wonder who proposed a 100,000 seat sports arena for Nashville in 1964 and why?
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How vain of TG to remind us of his impact in that area with four of his babies... LOL!!!
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20 hours ago, nashville born said:
Point taken. I still believe an announcement like this, if true, could absolutely have downstream impact on developments in the CBD. Said differently, everybody who eventually would work at an Oracle campus wouldn't live in the East Bank (800 Lea could absorb some of that volume). And if an Oracle is coming to town, you could likely expect other ancillary companies to follow which could necessitate a need for more office space (1001 Church and Gulch Central). Not debating as much as clarifying my thoughts.
I don't disagree, I just think as far as the CBD is concerned the East Bank will get a bigger boost than SoBro. I think it is more likely that the East Bank will see a bit of acceleration in developing residential properties. Also keep in mind that families do not generally lean towards high rise living, so with the amount of people Oracle will potentially bring/hire, there will be a lot of families included. So, neighborhoods around the CBD will probably do well. Especially those east, north, northeast and northwest of the CBD.
As far as other companies following Oracle, well that will depend on exactly what Oracle intends for this campus to do. If it will be more administrative and R&D, then you want necessarily see other companies locating here to be near Oracle. Manufacturing facilities tend to draw other companies to locate nearby. But, you can't count out other high tech companies wanting to have a similar presence near an Oracle headquarters.
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1 hour ago, nashville born said:Number one, really hope this is true and not some ploy to get more perks from Texas. Number two, if it is true, hope it makes developers and financiers even more bullish on Nashville.
Build 800 Lea, 1001 Church, Buckingham Gulch, and Gulch Central immediately!!!!
You might need to let those projects rest in peace at What Could Have Been Cemetery... the Oracle announcement will probably progress development in the East Bank more so than other parts of the CBD.
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On 4/18/2024 at 4:54 PM, nashville born said:
Oh trust it wasn't a disparaging comment. I was actually agreeing with the thought and then immediately wnt against myself by getting excited with the Mid City signage. Although I know we are VERY early in the process for that property.
Oh, I didn't think you were being disparaging at all. But, thanks for clarifying.
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On 4/15/2024 at 3:28 PM, nashville born said:
Funny thing is I was just on another string where the last thought was not getting excited by signage. I thought to myself, that's wise counsel. Then got here and immediately got excited. I'm a mental mess!!!
You might be referring to my comment and as MidTenn1 posted... here is why...
I refuse to get excited over signage now... It is an indication of vanity more than anything else.
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1 hour ago, donNdonelson2 said:
When this building was completed in 1988 I had hopes that Murfreesboro would develop like the Dunwoody area along the Atlanta perimeter or a few of the small cities within the Dallas Metroplex. That obviously never happened. At 16 stories it's still the tallest building in Murfreesboro.
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If I'm seeing this correctly, the merger of Union Street and 9th Ave N. was elevated before James Robertson Pkwy (JRP) was built. I always assumed the curved elevation to connect the two streets was done as part of the JRP development.
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This is why I don't get excited with signage... Show me a hole in the ground with a major crane ready to lift the Lincoln logs into place...
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14 hours ago, Luvemtall said:
That just means there’s a bunch of people who have to go elsewhere to find good restaurants and decent shopping, not to mention the times that the auditorium does get used .
What is the overall density of the area in terms of residential and workforce population? While having retail and restaurant options are nice, you also have to consider the sustainability of those type of establishments in an area. Plopping in street level retail and dinning spaces always sounds nice, but is that area truly viable enough to support them beyond lunch time? Unlike Bridgestone arena, the Municipal Auditorium is not booked consistently enough to where retail and dinning businesses would benefit that much from the occasional event held there. It also highly unlikely that even if Nashville lands an NBA team that the auditorium site will even be considered as a venue for an NBA team. There is no way the existing facility could ever be renovated to meet the standards a team or fans would expect in such a venue. It would have to be torn down and a new arena built in its place. That location would even be a long shot considering how far away it from the bulk of the hotels, bars and restaurants that most would want nearby.
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With all the development that is taking place in the Brick Church Pike, Trinity Lane, West Trinity Lane areas over to Clarksville Pike, just how much development includes new grocery stores and big box stores like Target, Home Depot, Lowes, etc.? That area was pretty much void of all the typical retail you'd find in a suburban area. I grew up in the Kings Lane/Eatons Creek Road area and it took decades for even Kroger's to open a grocery on Clarksville Pike. If we wanted t go to a big box store we'd have to go to White Bridge Road, Madison and Rivergate. I'm just wondering if that is area is being developed beyond residential.
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Any updates on starting construction? Just checking because I'm going to be really upset if that cleared lot stays there for an indefinite period of time. They started demolition on existing buildings in November of 2022. I wish there was some better way to coordinate all components of approvals, permitting, site clearing, etc. so that lots aren't cleared months or worse years prior to actual start of construction. These vacate lots become eyesores with the fencing and temporary signage that isn't maintained well after they go up.
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I don't know if this has been posted, my apologies if it has. Last October I stayed at the Hotel Preston and I was told by both a manager and bartender/manager that Marriott is planning a full renovation of the property to begin sometime in 2024 or early 2025. It may include exterior changes as well. They haven't been told if the hotel will close during the renovations. All they seem to know is that everything from the lobby to the bar area, elevators and every guest room will be renovated.
I will say this from my stay there, the room I was in was a corner room that was very spacious with a lot of wasted space in the entrance area of the room. The bathroom however was small, dark and could use a refresh for sure. While the furnishings in the room were nice, the actual built-ins were a bit worn. There was an area that was basically a dry bar that should have been a wet bar with a built in microwave and a stocked refrigerator with snacks and beverages (the in-room refrigerator was in a piece furniture that the tv sat on and had a desk at the other end). The only microwave on the floor was in a space next to the vending machines sitting on what appeared to be an old tv stand. The elevators had to be reset several times while I was there, so they really need to be replaced. The lobby is small and poorly laid out and not very welcoming. The property has good bones and I can see why Marriott took it over. I just hope that the renovation will go beyond cosmetic stuff.
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Here's a link to a photo gallery of the Drift Hotel.
One night stands and bad decisions withstanding, this is an amazing transformation!!! They deserve nothing but gratitude and praise for this renovation.
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I know the plan to reduce the seating capacity is a bummer to some, but the new numbers might be in response to overall market not just the site location. Keep in mind the Pinnacle Concert Hall in Nashville Yards will seat 4,500. TPAC for the most part has been about theatrical performances with some small concert bookings. So, is there really a need for a 3,200 seat hall? When you consider that single hall Broadway theaters in NYC range from 597 to 1,933 the size of the proposed TPAC theaters seem about right to me. The Blumenthal Performing Arts Center (BPAC) in Charlotte has three halls that range from 434 to 2,118 seats. There is a flex hall for smaller events. Also, Charlottes doesn't have a dedicated symphony hall like Nashville's Schermerhorn Symphony Center (1,844 seating capacity). Their symphony performs at the BPAC. So, what is being proposed for Nashville's new TPAC appears to be scaled appropriately.
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While I'm not overly impressed with the renderings and wish there was more height, the concept of Mid-City will do wonders for that area. The visual impact is going to be significant. It'll also balance the presence of Broad West. If the Reed District development along with 1401 Church are built out as planned it will be a very nice mid-town skyline along I-40 with some very nice vistas on the approach from both the north and the south. Especially if the 40 story building in the Reed District project and the 45 story building in the 1401 Church project are actually built.
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Mean while in the background....
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57 minutes ago, markhollin said:
Coverage of the 110 Grizzard proposed project (6 & 7 stories, 599 units, internal garage) by Guerrier Development mentioned several posts above by BeaveStirs. The proerty still needs to be purchased from Fred Hahn. No timeline on that or start date. Paradym Studio will be the architect.
More behind the Nashville Post paywall here:
https://www.nashvillepost.com/business/development/west-trinity-project-could-offer-mixed-use-buildings/article_c972c190-d038-11ee-ba57-63aa7f259264.html
This screen shot from Smeagolsfree's excellent development map shows the site highlighted in blue at the center of the frame:I wish them well. I want to see them get a strong win with this project. But that area... are there other announced developments coming to that area or are they counting on their development being the kick starter for other developers to come in and further develop the area? It may be a hard sell to get buyers/renters for a development surrounded by trailers parks, truck stops, auto salvage lot (i.e. junk yard).... I just wonder if the other side of I-24/65 would be a better option given that it is undergoing redevelopment already. But, I guess someone has to be the first on the east side of the interstate along Trinity Lane.
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Davidson Southeast: Antioch, Century Farms, East of Brentwood
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I know she had to go for progress. But, I'm going to miss the ole girl. She stood her ground and staked her place for decades as an iconic symbol of corporate representation in Nashville. I almost wish they had just imploded her instead of putting her through this painful demolition.