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5 minutes ago, Piedmont767 said:
I get that, but this is what the planners supposedly wanted- new towers- and there are only 3 lined up or in construction, so there not that many. It just seems like that is what was written in the article new towers, we start new ones and then they are doomed to fail and never be built.
I would bet that we were hoping the General Assembly would quickly OK an incentives package, hence all that talk of new towers.
Instead, they dragged their feet. And oil nose-dived and the global markets swooned and we missed the window for our paltry piker incentives package to work its magic.
Hence the hangin' o' the crepe.
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45 minutes ago, go_vertical said:
Pneumatic tubes.....you know, since it won't become a reality until 2099.
The Elon Musk Hyperloop?
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1 hour ago, Spartan said:
Have you been to Columbia? 1) It's not brutally hot. It's "Famously Hot" ... get it right!
2)It's not at all flat, and 3) there are only a few brutalist buildings. They are, however, fairly prominent. The Richland County Courthouse is very much in your face if you drive south on Assembly Street. The front side of the USC School of Law building on S Main Street is a good example of bad brutalism. Columbia does, however, have a lot of examples of mid-century international style buildings that are just awful.
Yes, a couple times. I seem to remember a slope or two. And I drove through it on my way to Disgusta a couple years ago.
Oh, sorry...it's famous! for...Nikki Haley, hot Republican!
and filled with hills and dales just waiting to be explored and...
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7 hours ago, Nick2 said:
Can anyone explain why Columbia has so much brutalist architecture?
Because its summers are brutally hot?
Because it's brutally flat?
[ahem]
I didn't know this about Columbia. Brutalism had its day in the 60s and 70s; maybe a lot of it got built then. Is it government stuff? Given brutalism's concrete forms, raw finishes and sometimes few, small windows I would think it's relatively inexpensive as well. So easy to build on a cheap state budget.
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1 hour ago, ah59396 said:
The QCQMC hosted by CCP in LOSO? CAN'T WAIT!!!!!!
Acronym City, baybee!
(er...what's LOSO?)
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On 1/10/2016 at 10:56 PM, DEnd said:
It's no coincidence, the sky Window was specifically chosen because of the success of the concept in Shanghai. A mostly glass curtain wall building does not lend itself well to emulating another glass curtain wall building. In this case it makes it look like a cheap knock off.
Visually to me it is just a box, it has basically nothing to create light and shadows on its façade. I'm throwing it a good bit of hate, but I don't really dislike it, it's fun at night and it does bring some architectural diversity to the city. Also it's not nearly as bad as the Westin. That building makes me want to bash my brains in with a baseball bat and go back to school and study architecture, because if someone got paid to design that monstrosity then by god I'd make bank if I had severe brain damage.
I love The Westin. It's so not-Charlotte and yet, here it is. That's what I love about it. That, and the near-Brutalism of its facade.
The nee-Wachovia building has a nice light show and the skyline is better with it than without but I don't love it.
Of course, I think the architecture in Blade Runner is magnificent. Dazzling yet dark, bleak, overpowering, and of course dehumanizing.
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1 hour ago, tozmervo said:
TIL the term " sestercentennial"
Isn't a great word?
We could also call it the Queen City Quarter Millennial Celebration.
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12 hours ago, QCxpat said:
Thanks, that's wonderful. I think it'd be a great opportunity for the Q.C. to make an appealing debut on the national stage, and Charlotte merits the attention.
I sent an email to Kenny Smith, Julie Eiselt, Al Austin, James Mitchell, Ed Driggs and LaWana Mayfield.
Kenny and Julie responded, said they thought a sestercentennial celebration would be a great idea and they'd start discussing it on council.
We'll see. The 100th anniversary of Myers Park in 2011 passed by virtually unnoticed.
The 1968 bicentennial was a big deal around here (I was in elementary school.)
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On February 18, 2016 at 10:11 AM, SgtCampsalot said:
Has anyone seen all the new homes on Heflin St in Grier Heights? What do people think of them? A year ago I never would have thought that street could feel that nice. I know GH's reputation. I don't like that it's next to Eastover/Meyers Park, but it's relatively close to PM. Thoughts?
I think it's Myers Park, not Meyers Park (harrumphed the curmudgeonly native.)
Why would you not want to be next to Eastover or Myers Park? Because Plaza Midwood is hip? And Eastover and Myers Park, despite wealth, are totally uncool?
The houses on Heflin look perfectly nice. They're actually closest to the southern edge of Elizabeth. Some are reserved at non-market rates. Call it gentrification lite, I guess.
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5 hours ago, QCxpat said:
Charlotte was incorporated in 1768. She's going to be 250 years old in 2018. What plans are there to celebrate this historic milestone for the Q.C.?
I've been wondering this myself.
I'll ping my City Council person.
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14 hours ago, LKN704 said:
I'm sorry but that renovation of the pre-existing concourses (A/B/C) is probably the most underwhelming thing I have seen in any airport renovation plan. Is it better than before? Yeah, but barely. Takes the airport to around 2001 or so. I know CLT is a hub because it is cheap and efficient but wow. After you have been to some pretty nice terminals (JFK T-8, the new TBIT at LAX is amazing, the Intl Term. at SFO, ICN, HKG, BKK, SIN...), it looks like a small regional airport in some Midwestern state rather than a major airline hub.
The new A annex looks nice though.
Charlotte is not any of those world capitals with the international traffic to support a wow factor.
I want my airport to be clean, efficient, new(er) if possible but doesn't have to wow me. It's an airport, neither a spa nor a museum. I just want to get in and out as quickly as possible.
Remember Pittsburgh. I'm sure they regret building a wow factor.
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8 hours ago, HopHead said:
Just booked a trip for the fall. Delta is apparently offering a 2 for 1 deal on trips in September to NYC (LaGuardia) from CLT when compared to American. The routes are nearly identical.
Delta: $176
American: $355
I want to fly your planes American, but you're making that choice rather difficult! And yes, I did complain to them directly about that.
Is the Delta route nonstop from CLT?
If not, how much time does it add to your trip? If it adds 2 hours and you earn ~$100k/yr (~$50/hour), you've lost ~$100.
If it flies CLT-ATL, ATL-LGA you're also at some added risk of delay. That's more lost money. In fact, if you stop anywhere you're at added risk of delay.
Are you checking bags? Lost baggage gremlins are everywhere.
Today, Delta is a better airline than American and we pay a premium to fly out of CLT because it's an American hub with little competition and our O&D traffic is low.
A $179 difference is not insignificant. But the raw numbers for ticket prices do not always tell the whole story.
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As far as customer service goes...
Without revealing too much, I had an issue with ticketing back in December when I flew CLT-SFO. The customer service was pretty responsive and the legacy AA employee was just pitch perfect.
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9 hours ago, Piedmont767 said:
Please show me where this merger has been good for CLT, except for a few sh**ty 1 daily flights on regional jets to the Midwest and 1 extra flight to London (which actually isn't that good because it just replaced the 2nd daily flight to Frankfurt).
CLT continues to grow, although we will soon be passed by the vacation destinations of Las Vegas and Orlando (LAS and MCO, if you will.) A metro of fewer than 3 million people welcomes almost 45 million annually. We are by far the smallest metro hub in the country. Our service far outweighs our size. CLT continues to punch above its weight and so Charlotte punches above its weight. I am thankful for this every day.
The airport facility is being dramatically expanded and remodeled, all at the behest of AA no doubt. Would I love Detroit's Delta terminal? Of course! But not really important to look that gorgeous.
Would I love for us to have Atlanta's level of international service? Of course! But I'm thrilled with what we have. If Charlotte continues on its present path as I think it will, more international service will come in time.
The US-AA merger has so far worked out wonderfully well for Charlotte and CLT. It could have been far, far worse. Over the last 25 years, CLT has dodged a bullet again and again and again. Things have turned out better than ok. We've been very, very lucky.
10 hours ago, Piedmont767 said:Well, today's AA announcement about expanding lounges, new clubs and renovations was very disappointing for CLT.
AA is expanding Flagship Lounge access to Business class passengers, so as a result DFW, PHL and MIA are all getting Flagship Lounges! Which just leaves CLT and PHX as the only AA hubs without Flagship Lounges- this makes me think that CLT international operations will be further scaled down after this summer season. The announcement also includes information about renovating existing clubs- CLT isn't on the list- and building new clubs- again CLT isn't on the list- so I don't expect a new club to be built on E.
This is just further proof that CLT isn't that important to AA and that I was very naive thinking this merger would be good for CLT.
CLT is the most profitable hub in the AA network. We're very important to AA.
Stop hanging out on airliners.net.
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1 hour ago, DavieNative said:Sometimes I think Duke looks out of place because of how large it is.
Nonsense. It's a shame it isn't 50% taller.
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3 hours ago, Windsurfer said:
Don't get me wrong! I love every bit of the trees in uptown, Myers Park, etc. The trees really do separate us from most cities. I'm just wondering what's going to happen to them in a few years once they reach a size that'll become vulnerable.
I was also thinking back a little to Harvey Gantt's "Transit Mall" deal with the paving stones that were ripped up after they failed. Before those ideas, Tryon was a very busy place. Once they widened the sidewalks and did away with the extra lane, it became a royal pain the tush to drive uptown. I know we're trying not to be car-centric and all, but the result at the time was a desertion of Tryon of sorts. (and of course South Park and Eastland did their part. )
I know photos are supposed to go in this thread so here's mine for today. It's of one of my great-grand parents' homes near where Carmel Road and 51 intersect. Growing up I heard stories of civil war fighters coming home to till the soil, then returning to battle once they were done. What a hard life. This house was about 1/2 mile north of that intersection. (on the West side of Carmel)
Wow. Thanks for the historical photo!
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1 hour ago, Jayvee said:
[whispering] Not without a dang tenant lined up...
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15 hours ago, ricky_davis_fan_21 said:
Actually this isn't what we are saying about Tryon Place. While honestly I and many others are still skeptical about the project, reliable sources are saying it's still on track, just that's it a complicated project and complicated projects take time. They are supposedly comfortable with the prospect of going spec. I don't think it's spec, I think they have a tenant . Only reason they'd increase to 36 floors.
Oh, ok. Thanks for the clarification.
But I still don't believe they have a tenant.
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1 hour ago, Piedmont767 said:
Wait, I'm confused. Can y'all dumb it down please?
300 Tryon: on target including both office tower and hotel. Both structures had to be built at the same time, both are being built at the same time, even though no hotel partner has been announced. My own view is that although many thought Kimpton was the original hotel partner, it has been a mess ever since its acquisition by Intercontinental. So the hotel partner is still up in the air, but the building is going up. There'll be a hotel partner of some kind; let's hope it's a new, upscale brand for Charlotte.
Tryon Place: seriously off-target. Most of us feel that nothing will happen unless/until a sizable tenant is signed up and announced. Like 300 Tryon, both office tower and hotel must be built together. So if there's no tenant for the office tower, there'll be no office tower and no hotel, either.
Make sense?
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3 hours ago, Windsurfer said:
Great shots! One other building I miss, that you can see in the photos, is the old Jack Wood Clothier building. Too bad that one had to go too. Love that Corvair in one of the shots too.
I wouldn't have it, but I guess you could eliminated the oaks for street parking, and then rebuild the extra lane. I can see the day when they'll have to cut the oaks and replant them due to being so large. The winds howling between the buildings will eventually do a number on them.
Frank Woods Pontiac-Folger Buick-Sterchi's-
When I came back to Charlotte after a 20-year absence, I was shocked at the large willow oaks on Tryon Street. They're splendid!
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9 minutes ago, QCxpat said:
The pin oaks that line Tryon Street are magnificent today. Hard to believe their absence in the photos of the QC in the 1970's.
Willow oaks. Not pin oaks, so tacky! Willow oaks.
Or as one of the arborists at Heartwood said to me, "the trophy wife of trees."
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(QCexpat this is for you-the formatting is klugey this morning)
Yes. That's what I meant when I said, "...except that it was a community of people. To me, that's the thing to lament. Not the marginally few buildings of interest."
It reminds me that although everyone rejoiced at the demolition of the motel so that Skyhouses I & II could be built, that old motel was home to a good many people.
Where did they end up?
10 minutes ago, Windsurfer said:And, greetings to you!!
One day, during a salesmeeting in the 40's, in a restaurant beside Hotel Charlotte, my dad and fellow salesmen heard a loud thud coming from the roof. They went outside to discover a preacher had committed suicide by leaping out of Hotel Charlotte.
Kofinas' had the best boxing pictures! It was so much like a NY bar. Happen to have some of their fried chicken? You and I must be of similar age. I'm 57. When I was 11 my dad and I walked from way below South Park (Beverly Woods) to the square. I found the horizontal grooves in The Independence building too tempting and started climbing despite being tired. I got to the second floor before the cop blew his whistle. I should've kept going ;-). On the hike up to the square, as usual I heard my dad's stories. As a matter of fact, I remember he and I walking by the old confederate ship yard as it was being dug out on College Street. It was quite an undertaking. No telling what relics came out of the ground on that one.
I'm 59, dammit!
Never expected to be this old. Yet here I am.
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17 minutes ago, Windsurfer said:
I agree, Silicon. I'm native as well and, from what I remember of those areas, there were some pretty ugly places. What I really miss is the Independence Building, Hotel Charlotte, Film Row, Belks and some of the buildings closer in to the square. Happen to remember Kofinas Grill on West Trade?
Anyway, it's still happening as we know. Little by little. Next on the chopping block is that cute little building on College and Stonewall. (For the Crescent building, no?)
Greetings, fellow native!
The Independence Building was a huge loss, both aesthetically and historically. Today, it would undoubtedly be saved, not razed. But Hotel Charlotte's loss gave us the Carillon which I think was well-done and the soon-to-be Grand Bohemian. I remember the Kofinas Grill-my dad worked uptown when I was a kid and he ate lunch there. On Fridays (payday, natch) we'd meet him after work and eat at the old S&W on West Trade then maybe shop a bit at Belk.
But no, I don't miss that cobbled-together building (Belk + Efird) and its ridiculous street-level connector walkway. We got the Bank of America Corporate Center instead! Don't miss that smelly Woolworth that some keep lamenting-please, are you serious? There's a carbon copy in downtown Augusta, Georgia if you want to venerate it. And speaking of smelly, I don't miss the Kress store where Bank of America Plaza and the Omni now stand.
If Crescent's Tryon Place ever goes vertical, I won't miss that building but I seem to recall it dates to the 19th century. But it's been so radically altered over the years that it's lost all historical and aesthetic value.
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2)It's not at all flat, and 3) there are only a few brutalist buildings. They are, however, fairly prominent. The Richland County Courthouse is very much in your face if you drive south on Assembly Street. The front side of the USC School of Law building on S Main Street is a good example of bad brutalism. Columbia does, however, have a lot of examples of mid-century international style buildings that are just awful.
and filled with hills and dales just waiting to be explored and...
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