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Wouldn't it be nice if:
a.) the overinflated real estate costs in uptown would deflate enough to allow projects to make a profit without a high-end market
b.) developers would step up and agree to "break-even" rather than "get rich" if it means building a more functional and reasonable project
c.) a concerned party would step up and agree to save the theater without the contingent of redeveloping the property for profit
d.) pigs learned to fly
you arent really in tune with pursuit's mentality are you?
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Hopefully the developers are being charged a market-rate price for an extension of that option- with teachers being laid off and other problems around Charlotte, I strongly object to my tax dollars (as a property owner in Charlotte) going to bail out a real estate developer.
the city does no maintenance on the property. it is taken care of by pursuit (not that theres much at all). the police tower is nice though huh?
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USA Today piece questions BofA building the Ritz-Carlton:
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ho...9/05/67364023/1
articles like this are ridiculous and are not helping the banking situation. Bank of America is not going into the luxury hotel business... eh whatever... whats the point in arguing with the article anyways?
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different entity
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am i the only one not so excited about levine is planning? in one of the few spaces to make a lively street retail scene or retail district we are going to get 280,000 sqft of retail only... Its not bad, but its not great either. the land has so much potential
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the problem with getting a loan is that banks dont want to give small loans that are less profitable to development companies like the pursuit group when they can instead give a larger loan to someone else. As lending gets tighter, less banks are willing to fund a smaller project like encore. For clarification, I am not a pursuit group employee.
Also for clarification, liquid was set to be designing several other white water centers around the country. I can see why they have stalled to, but it is unfair to lay the blame on the pursuit group solely.
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Liquid Design has done some great work. It is a shame, because they were on the verge of becoming a well known architecture group, but yes, they have had to lay off pretty much the entire company apparently. Again, from some friends I have in architecture I hear they really went all in on Pursuit Group and are getting burned on it. Pursuit is apparently unable to pay the money they owe them. I guess they can all join the ranks with Verna and Associates and his architects on The Park.
if you dont know what your talking about, stop slandering a good company... everyone is struggling at this point and it has been a rocky year, but the pursuit group is far from verna
and to clarify liquid had significant work beyond the pursuit group
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wow the more music venues in downtown the better. sounds good
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I think he is talking about the church on Brevard and 3rd
www.graceonbrevard.com
the church is open. Has been for a couple weeks. Its absolutely awesome. The pursuit group is incredibly busy and right now getting financing is extremely tough, encore was close, but has regressed a bit. It is not gone and will be built.
remember this company is something like 10 people, but has 6-7 various projects happening
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I like it, but in order to make it part of urban life, it has to something to draw more people there. Sure the trees are pretty and a big open lawn a nice concept to lay out and read a book, but how about something like a small playground? A small dog walking specific area? Something that makes the downsides of living in downtown be a bit better, and makes it more usable on a daily basis.
I dont really want to see another "the green"
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I see your point. I love the Vue, but at the same time I don't want Charlotte to become the Dubai of the South (see: 4 First Union, Trump Charlotte). Tokyo has best urban environment I've ever been in, and sure they have some nice clusters of skyscrapers, but the vast majority of their density is in the 10 to 12 floor range. If I had to choose, I'd pick some more great mid-rise, mixed use density growing in Southend, Elizabeth, Uptown, and NoDa over another Vue or two.
God so would i... having a great, walkable midrise neighborhood would be incredible... anywhere from 3-8 floors with living retail in the bottom, those kinds of neighborhoods can exemplify urbanism at its best. But this is charlotte, and we paved over the neighborhoods that had potential to become that type of area long ago
the vue is cool, but really on a grandscale not all that interesting or unique compared to density... so basically ive full circled back to monsoons point, but for charlotte today, I will still take it, and i do not see the future in the creation of neighborhoods that we are talking about.
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There is no way that I'm gonna try to have that same discussion on a more abstract level about why skyscrapers are actually bad for good city living. The information is out there for anyone who is really interested or just go travel to a few places to see it first hand.
As an example, and not a good one, this is what happens when the higher is better concept is taken to an unreasonable extreme. It does however demonstrate the above. While the buildings are stunning, the living environment or rather lack of it, has created a dystopian depressing landscape. See here. But forget I said anything about it.
that can definitely be true and I know you dont want to debate this here but I will just say, in a city like charlotte towers are not built to fill the entire lot in the same way that they are in say the lower east side... so either way the "urban fabric" is patchy in Charlotte whether or not the building is 8 stories or 50, even our most dense street, tryon, has plazas and lots of open space, but thats the business district so its a bit different
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^I would welcome any analysis that would prove that. In the South the issue is airconditioning and glass boxes get extremely hot. For number of people contained, skyscrapers have huge carbon footprints. A 50 story tower requires massive amounts of raw materials and energy to build. Once completed there is a great deal of energy needed to heat and cool, run elevators, pumps to move water and air up 50 stories, etc. They also have the same social issues as suburbs in the manner in which they are exclusive and remove people from the city. In return they offer convenience and prestige. I do admit that Charlotte is still hung up on the prestige thing, but if you got to more socially mature cities, the most desirable places are town home and lowrise flats communities.
There are attempts to build a so called "green" skyscraper, but that is basically an admission as to this issue with these kind of buildings.
skyscrapers remove people from the city? I dont see the difference in going up 50 floors versus three, once your up your in your home and off the city street anyway...
as far as the whole sustainability thing, I think you are overly optimistic if you actually think US home buying choices and building will SIGNIFICANTLY change in two years. There are always going to be little very green communities, but overall people love to live in excess. Now, I think slight changes will be made, green is selling so developers will do it, but not enough to make projects like this unprofitable.
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let me know when you can live in charlotte without a car...
as far as the green comment, i laughed...
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time... just give it some time.
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Correct me if my perception is wrong about this one: but the portion of the Epicentre which was meant to be the amenities deck of 210 is built - correct? This is the enclosed top two floors above where they are building Thai House etc. This is the section that proved to doom the relationship between to two projects I think, and I assume it was built and operated by the Epicentre development and not 210. Soooooo, if 210 doesn't get built out the way it was planned, would it be impossible to think that the amenities deck(s) could be retrofit for use of the Epicentre patrons - I don't know, like some actual RETAIL FOR GOD'S SAKE?!?!?!
I kinda laugh at stuff like this...
not many on this website seem to understand its more difficult then allotting a space and saying, retail, come here. no mainstream retailers are willing to make the jump to uptown, especially not now, even at very attractive offers.
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hmm I am fascinated by the boulevard plan. I think the key to actually getting something like this out of the concept phase is a serious developer approaching the city with a plan, something like copley place in boston or maybe the time warner center in NYC to anchor down one of the parcels, followed with strict zoning restrictions for full street friendly retail... something that will generate tax $$ and high property values on that land opened up. If it takes Trump to do it, I would welcome him here.
It could be an awesome anchoring retail area for uptown finally, and if the brevard st plan holds together, we could end up with a nice pedestrian area sometime in the distant future...
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Agreed. I think an Apple store downtown would be a destination retail place without a doubt. Funny thing though is that I don't think Apple could have a big enough store in Southpark. Every time I've walked by, that place is packed like sardines.
this has been talked about and tried several times. Its not as easy as offering space at a good price.
youd actually be surprised at how hard it is to get any mainstream retail tenants into uptown, and thus, they have yet to arrive.
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I laughed when I read the article this morning. The people posing the photo looked like they were about to be kicked out onto the street and their dog killed, rather then losing their view in a luxury condo. This is a joke. There is no legally binding height restriction. Development happens. My father once told me, before you buy on a view, always know what can rise in front of it. There were never any real restrictions, just guidelines, which mean nothing.
Build it, I love the idea of a decent urban corridor flowing into downtown.
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I've heard, and this may mean squat, that this will not be happening. Kind of disappointing, but Charlotte will be just fine.
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The CBJ has an article saying that this project will have an 18 story office tower, residential tower, hotel, and restaurant space. It also says a rendering is being passed between office brokers. Did the print edition have this rendering?
I heard about this. A large company in downtown was offered naming rights on a new office building on N. Tryon by a developer directly. I dont know whether they got further in talks about this, I will do some digging.
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creating more density outside the loop will be awesome and hopefully help stretch the city, I am looking forward to hearing more about this project
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I know a little bit. And count on this one happening.
Ritz-Carlton Hotel & 1 Bank of America Center
in Charlotte
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it is a really great addition to the skyline and lovely that it isnt tan or dark glass.