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  1. On 2/20/2021 at 9:21 PM, civitas said:

    The most valuable retail in an urban area is located on the pedestrian flow between large buildings and large parking decks.  Skywalks kill that traffic.  Equally important is the visual impact they have on the urban streetscape.  The street is the primary place where we experience our cities.  Skywalks destroy the scale of the corridor and the views, especially those views that terminate in a focal point.  

    Years ago there was an effort to connect the previous art museum across Pearl with the building to the south.  It would have had a horrible impact on the view to St. Marks.  Thankfully the city recognized the impact and it never happened.  

    You live in Michigan.  Put a sweater on and enjoy the street.  :)

    Are you saying that someone going downtown for the purpose of shopping and dining would become enthralled by the allure of the skywalk and would forget what they came to do?  Or are you saying that someone using the skywalk to get from a parking garage to the specific destination for which  they came downtown, would bypass an interesting store or restaurant (provided they had time to stop) because of the skywalk? 
    Not that I’m some big advocate for filling the city with skywalks, but they can serve a purpose and the issue shouldn’t be oversimplified.  So, putting aside personal opinions on the aesthetics of skywalks (or lack thereof), the practicality of the option (especially for some demographics/ population segments) in this geography shouldn’t be underestimated - regardless of whether or not a person is tough enough to just put on a sweater.

  2. On 1/26/2021 at 11:06 AM, joeDowntown said:

    One of the renderings of the "plaza redo" had a bridge from the plaza to the 2nd level. I thought  that was kind of interesting. But agree, I think skywalks kill street level activity.

    Joe

    I’ve heard the skywalks kill street level activity argument since the days of mayor Logie.  Personally, I don’t think it’s quite that black and white.  I think a factor that kills street level activity is actually often crap weather.  Most people enjoy being outside and only choose an alternative like the skywalk if they are avoiding adverse weather conditions or have a specific destination in mind and want to walk there without the hassle of crosswalks, etc.

    In this case especially, as an alternative to standing around waiting to cross Fulton while it’s freezing cold, or pouring rain, it would be a nice touch.  I really don’t think there would be anyone who would say, “well, I was going to go to the BOB, but since there’s this skywalk over Fulton I think I’ll pass.”

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  3. 1 hour ago, joeDowntown said:

    Great looking building. Downtown Holland is impressive. If they could somehow inch closer to Lake Macatawa, that'd be amazing. It's kind of weird to have a lakefront city that isn't very lake friendly.

    Joe

    Agree.  It’s unfortunate they let their lakefront get so industrial.  The cost to get Verplank, Brewers, and Padnos to move out then the cleanup of the sites would likely be exorbitant.  Kollen Park on the south shore isn’t too far from downtown and is not bad for lakefront viewing (Boatwerks is right there as well).

  4. 19 minutes ago, GRDadof3 said:

    We were in there about a month ago and it was abandoned. Not even anyone behind the bar (we could have ransacked the place). It really did look like no one cared (to show up for work). 

    Here's another image that George Aquino posted. Looks like they opened up an additional third level? And no windowed ceiling? 

     

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    Both those images make me think there is a tremendous lack of windows considering the location on top of the tower.  Who wants to go up there to sit in those dark tones?  

  5. 1 hour ago, KCorner said:

    Resistance to this one makes no sense to me. This proposed development fills a surface parking lot, preserves and renovates another building, adds affordable housing and, while tall, does not overwhelm the streetscape in this area. It adds to the character and fabric of Heartside, IMO. Here's hoping the September meeting brings better news.

    https://mibiz.com/sections/real-estate-development/heartside-gr-housing-development-stalls-after-historic-preservation-commission-deadlocks

    Thank you, HPC, for protecting Grand Rapids from the harsh realities of the future.

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