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Here is a picture I took last month:
I'm impressed with Greenville! Isn't that areaa the largest metro in SC? Does Spartanburg have a nice skyline?
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The Amyway Center name is not that bad.
The name Amway Center does flow a lot better than Staples Center. What is it that we don't like about the name? The type of company Amway is? Other than that it is one of the most memorable names for an arena in the country.
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Sunshine, I think that the retail development will occur once the population demands it. As it stands the core of downtown has a difficult enough time keeping retail tenants open whether it's food/beverage or apparel. It's going to be at least another decade until retail of any significance expands west of I-4.
Probably true......unless an economic miracle happens and the residential buildings downtown suddenly fill up. One thing is for certain, for retail to really work downtown, there has to be people living there. As we all saw last decade, downtown had retail for awhile based on the tourism market, now it's gone. We definetely don't need businesses opening downtown based on tourism anymore..
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Apple had publicly stated that they were locating in the Chenal Promenade (had job advertisements, etc.) - in fact, this store was announced as the first in Louisiana, Arkansas and Mississippi. Sadly, three stores have opened in those states and still no LR location. Recently there were rumors they were revisiting locations. I've since been told that Promenade has a signed lease for them...why they've delayed (as have all the retailers there) is really bizarre - I guess you could chalk it up to the recession, but Apple has proven to be recession proof so far.
But to answer your question, I really, really, really doubt that Apple has permanently abandoned the market. It's too big to ignore. They have numerous locations in smaller, less affluent markets (not many, admittedly, but several).
An Apple store would sure help get this place off the ground. Also a Sony Style would be a help. These stores attract people like magnets. It would really help to have an IKEA store across the street. What's the closest IKEA to Little Rock. People drive 500 miles to those stores and having Chenal next door would attract a lot of that crowd. Also, is this the first location in Arkansas for a Lucky Brand Jeans? They have moved into more average centers in many cities. The store everyone is trying to get is True Religion Brand Jeans. Another store with a big draw would be Urban Outfitters.
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I think Jax and Orlando are two very different cities. Orlando is much more cosmopolitan - not just b/c of tourists, but also its ethnic makeup. Orlando started booming in the 1970s so a lot of the locals you see (Whites, blacks, latinos, Asians) are from various regions of the country and the world. Jacksonville, on the other hand, being at the northern tip of the state, close to Georgia, has a much more traditional Southern mix of people. The majority of whites, as is the case with most places in the South, can trace their ancestries to England, Scotland, Ireland, or Germany. Orlando's ethnic makeup is more like that of South FL - lots of whites from up north, which means a lot more people with Italian and East European ancestries mixed in. Orlando's also got a thriving Hispanic population, especially Puerto Ricans, but also Cubans, Colombians, etc. The black population also hails from different parts of the country, as well as the islands.
It's really only in recent years that the population of Jax has started to diversify, and experience a more rapid type of growth. Due to Jax being one of Florida's biggest cities, it hasnt viewed too much as a Southern town, or if it is than it would be considered less conservative than similar sized cities in the South, and more in line with Houston and Atlanta. It's also perceived as much more of a blue collar town when compared to Miami, Orlando, or Tampa, but it's also more affordable. The city's got a lot of potential as it is after all a coastal town, with a lot of room to grow.
If one just looks at population figures you'd think Jax was this bustling city of 800,000 people whereas Miami barely has 400,000. Yet that 800 K figure comprises the entire county of Duval, which is the same as saying Miami has a population of 2.5 million people (Dade County).
Orlando's progress has been so explosive at times that the city hasn't always been able to keep up with the changes. For example, the way its international airport is set up should have been changed years ago. Also, aside from I-4 all you seem to have are toll roads, unlike Tampa with I-75, I-275, I-4, and several toll roads all passing through the city (St. Petersburg is a different story). Part of Orlando's traffic problem arises not just from the toll roads, but by the fact that aside from the 2 million people living in its metro area there's another million or so tourists on any given week. So you've got heavy traffic till 9 from the locals, then as the tourists wake up they take to the roads as well. This is especially prevalent on Fridays, where it seems like there's always an accident and heavy traffic around 1 or 2 in the afternoon.
I think if we we bringing up all 4 of Florida's major metro areas (Jax, Tampa-St. Pete, Orlando, and South FL) I'd pick South Florida. I mean, this is a site called Urban Planet, and South Florida has always been light years ahead of the rest of FL, or even most of the country, in that sense. It's not just that it's densely populated, but also there's a lot of great places to walk around, especially in Dade County. You've got South Beach with Washington Ave, Lincoln Road, Colllins, and Ocean Drive. Over in downtown Miami you have Flagler an Brickell, and the kind of plans they got going on over there are even more ambitious than what they have planned for Atlanta (Atlanta's Midtown will evantually resemble the magnificent mile, AKA Michigan Ave. in Chicago. There's also the streets of Buckhead project opening in less than a year, and something similar in the suburb of Alpharetta). Another part of Miami is Coconut Grove, which is extremely walkable. Same is true for Coral Gables and even parts of Kendall. All these areas offer numerous stores, restaurants, galleries, and more. I'm not just talking about chain stores or cookie cutter restaurants, but a true variety of retail.
Head north of Miami and you can do more walking in Hollywood, and in Ft. Lauderdale you can walk around the streets along the beach, and continue on Las Olas Boulevard. Personally though I prefer to head even further up north to Palm Beach, which is extremely walkable and a very clean and pretty city. They've also done a great job reviving downtown West Palm Beach as you've got both Clematis, and nearby City Place.
As far as shopping malls go, Orlando has Millenia and Tampa has International Plaza, but South Florida has had those kind of malls long before that. Aventura Mall and the Shops at Bal Harbor in the north Miami Beach area, there's also the Village of Merrick Park in Coral Gables with Dadeland Mall and the Shops at Sunset Place nearby, Town Center in Boca Raton, The Gardens Mall in West Palm Beach, etc. Orlando also has some amazing outlet malls with Premium Outlets (one of the best Premium Outlets in the country no less) and Belz, but South Florida has Sawgrass Mills, which is HUGE.
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I agree that it's a pretty nice expressway system, especially with the recent improvements to the Turnpike and 408 but I'm amazed that I-4 is still only 3-4 lanes in each direction through much of central Orlando. For a city with only one Interstate (or free highway) that serve's as city's most important thoroughfare, it's disappointing to return to Orlando after spending so much time in larger cities and sit in bumper-to-bumper traffic on a highway that's 4 lanes wide with so much empty space in the median and on the shoulders of the road.
Now, I'm as big a proponent of mass transit and alternative modes of transportation as anybody but since Orlando can't manage to get a rail line built decade after decade, they might as well widen some of the highways or at least add exclusive car pool lanes to them. Every other big city in the country has highways 5+ lanes wide in each direction with small shoulders, a concrete median, carpool lanes, and sound barrier walls. I don't see why Orlando will spend so many years on improving I-4 to only widen it from 3 lanes to 4 and continue to leave these gigantic grassy medians that could help ease some of the city's traffic woes if developed. I mean, the Turnpike is now wider and more modern through Orlando than I-4 is by the attractions area and the Turnpike only has a handful of exits in town.
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I agree about I-4, isn't the latest plan to have a total of 8 lanes in each direction with two of them being toll lanes? I know they are rebuilding a lot of interchanges to before they start widening the road. It took Atlanta a couple of decades to rebuild it's interstate system, I know it was under construction most of my life. At least they've gotten I-4 widened between Tampa and Orlando and now the Volusia suburbs and north Seminole county.
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imagine how expensive an easement that would've been...
funny thing is, that Rocky's is moving b/c of eminent domain near the new Red Bug/436 ramps they are designing. 414 would've been a perfect northern E-W expressway if they could've linked it to Red Bug.
One thing Orlando has that most other Florida cities don't is a decent expressway system. It just costs a ton of money in tolls to use it! I think the Turnpike's improvements really incorporate it into the metro area's expressway system. Also, a long time ago, traffic reporters used to often refer to Maitland Blvd. as the "Maitland Expressway."
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Just random pics...
Great pics sunshine! I know I haven't taken or posted any pictures as of yet, but looking at some other cities photo threads, some Millenia pics would be a good addition, even some of the stuff on Sand Lake and some tasteful I-Drive. A downtown pic from the top of the Peabody maybe? I've always liked separating real Orlando from tourist Orlando, but things are pretty much conjoined, maybe we can show a little more respect to that Orlando, Pointe Orlando, etc. Just thinking...
I-4 is really shaping up into a huge highway down there with all those new interchanges. And now all of a sudden the Turnpike has turned in to an intergral part of our expressway system. Orlando used to just be "Next 3 Exits" on the TPK and seemed very far away. Now the TPK is more like in South Florida. They really should build that interchange with the 417 and add a couple more exits, maybe Dillard St. in Winter Garden and John Young Pkwy.
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It is.
Someone mentioned the market at southside...the building under construction there where the old Roadhouse was is a Chick-fil-a.
Southside Plaza was the deal on the southside. It even had a little covered "mall" section. I remember when the new Publix was built, it was one of the first "super-sized" Publix's in the metro. I believe it has that exposed piping ceiling inside........Don't know how I could forget the name Electric Avenue club, it's all coming back now.
Is it me or does the SoDo (southside) sprucing itself up and becoming a new hot spot? (While East Colonial seems to be in a rut)?
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You know, our Orlando Photo Thread doesnt have to always be something downtown. We have plenty of neighorhoods and lakes that could be photoed to show that Orlando has soomwthing eveywherel College Park, Delaney Park, Colonialtown, Thornton Park, Parramore, Winter Garden, Kissimee's downtown, the malls and lkifestyle centers, UCF, the new 408, anything, etc.!! Show we are a real city (Uptown Altamonte and our beautiful streets and boulevard; Let he people see more than Mickey Mouse!! Let them see a beautiful place to live!
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Then we can start a never ending thread about it until in 60 years it will be demolished.
Dude, I didn't know the situation was that bad! I hear radio advertisements for "Tavern on the Lake" on Hip Hop radio stations. Will MetroWest become another Rosemont in the future. That sucks because I really did love living in the area. How Wal-<Mart got their sticky little hands on that property remains a mystery. The area could have been helped out some if that WalMart could have been built at JYP and Princeton. I see no connection between the Walmart and College Park. How Many CP residents ever venture past the train tracks to OBT? It's not like it's right next to CP like Fairvilla Video is. It could've made a major shift of the Metrowest Walmart traffic. The West Colonial Super Target should have been built at that Metrowest entrance, or Whole Foods or something. The Ocoee Walmart is plenty close to M-west, with lots of Windermere customers. And the new Vineland Walmart ir right in the area, too.
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Has no one mentioned the disaster out at the strange Venetian themed development over in Metrowest? The one where OUC is shutting off the power and water because of unpaid bills while people are living in the buildings? Once that happens, code enforcement is kicking everyone out.
Do you man Verandah Park?There's also supposed to ba a 12 screen movie complex; Tavern on The LaKE is located there as well as Taquitos Jalisco. Was hoping for a success but guess the timing is way off on that one. Condo's were suposed to be selling for half a million. Hearde One sold for $99,000. It's sstrang place, hopefully it will be completed one day. Metro West is a nice neighbordhood and sure would like it to stay that way!
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Wait wait wait wait wait........ you're saying there was no Semoran Blvd. in 1981??????
I lived here in 1981 & was going to UCF then. A good friend of mine lived in an apartment complex on Semoran that's still there.
You must have your date wrong, because I drove on Semoran Blvd. in the 70's.
There was no Semoran Blvd when I was a kid living on Lido St. Sorry 'bout that. I can tell you that the Beeline Expressway started at Narcoosee Rd. in 1981 and McCoy/Sand Lake Rd. was where the expressway is now and the terminal was right next to the road. You went directly through the traffic light at Semoran and McCoy and you were in the terminal parking lot. (I thinnk Semoran opened in the late 60's, early 70;s)
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I do believe that Chamberlin's in the SW corner pre-dates the village. I saw the old mall get built on an empty plot of land with oaks, and then get demolished. That doesn't date me, does it? Lived off Lee on the N. side of Lake Killarny. Lee was 2-lanes when we moved there from College Park; I-4 was under construction.
In the old OFS ... I remember a great german deli / pub. Was it Dunderbock's or something like that?
Herr Dunderbach's was a chain that was in several malls, I know there was one in Dadeland Mall in Miami. Chamberlins pre-dates the Village. There was a strip of stores on the outside of the Winter Park Mall where Chamberlins is located and I believe there was a JCPenney automotive. On the other corner of the parking lot was Morrison's cafeteria, where Borders is at now. I graduated class of 1981 from Colonial High School. There was no Semoran Blvd. My parents bought a house in a subdvision called Montclair Manor which had two entrances with signs off of Lake Barton Road. (Semoran). Lake Barton Rd was a two lane road that ran from Old Cheney in the north and ended at Curry Ford in the South. You had to take Conway Rd. to get to the airport. (Our house in Montclair Manor was on Lido St. and was a small newer section of Monterrey Homes.) Dover Shores neighborhood was the more upscale subdivision off of Conway between Curry Ford and Lake Underhill. If you are driving south on Lake Underhill before Semoran near Andes Ave, there is a street that runs parallel to Lake Underhill, the homes are brick. That was called Villa Monterrey and was the most expensive part of Monterrey Homes. I was in 4th grade at Azalea Park Elementary School while the E-W was being built. You could here them pounding the pilings into Lake Underhill to build the bridge accross. They pounded every day for a few months
Yes, I am ancient, I'm 46 years old. I was born at the Orlando Air Force Base Hospital, where Baldwin Park is now located. McCoy Air Force base was located where OIA is now.
Steak and Shake still had waitresses on roller skates to serve you in your car. The first McDonald's on East Colonial was located near Old Cheney and Colonial. You probably all ready know that Cheney Hyw was Hyw 50 I'm sure. There was also a beach on Lake Barton, and there was a beach on Mills Ave near the Art museum. And there was also a beach for military familys on Lake Baldwin.
Also the Sentinel Star had a contest to name the new highway 436 (Orlando By-Pass). The winner was Semoran, it's dirivitive being SEM(Seminole county) and ORAN (Orange County). Any other questions for the old, wise and ancient??
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You're right about Ivey's/Dillards being the Cheesecake Factory, Loft etc., but Penneys was demolished. Penneys had 3 or 4 rows of parking between it and Canton street to the South, whereas, Alberson's/Publix south side is out to the sidewalk. Albertsons/Publix was built along with the rest of the WP Village.
You are probably right about the Penney's being demolished, I didn't actually witness it, but I know the Ivey/Dillards building remained. Sorry about the lack of paragraphs, I always end up saying more than I plan to. I get carried away when it comes to retail. I could tell a lot of retail stories about Miami and Tampa also!
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I think it was hardly sudden. Fashion Square began a slow, inexorable decline starting with the 1991 recession, not unlike a lot of other malls around the country. Then, NTC close and other malls started opening. Also, as Florida Mall went upscale and Millenia opened that way to begin with, the "general purpose mall" began to fall out of favor.
And, as often happens, the East Colonial retail corridor is hitting its midlife crisis. It could continue to sink (much as Casselberry and Pine Hills once did) or it could be revitalized (as College Park was and Downtown is).
Perhaps an interesting story: In 1986, when the Herndon Plaza Publix opened, leading to the closure of the Colonial Plaza Publix, one of the suits there from Lakeland told me that there would never be another Publix between the new location and downtown. It's fascinating how perspectives change: that store is long gone and not 1, but 2, Publix stores have since opened to the west (Colonialtown and Eola). So who knows. As for me, I'm hoping OFS will just drop its claim to the retail we need to allow a renaissance of downtown shopping, but I could easily be as much in error as the poor Publix management type 23 years ago.
In it's prime in the 70's and 80's OFS was never "upscale" but it wasn't "small town" either. It had all the main stores that an average mall in a large metro would have. Gap, Chess King,Jeans West, Florsheim Shoes, Casual Corner, Foxmoor, Lerner, etc. It was anchored by Sears, Burdines, and Robinsons. Robinson's closed and was replaced by New Orlean's signature department store Maison Blanche. The mall then expanded and built a new Maison Blanche where Dillards now is, the old Robinson's store became the second level with OFS's first food court and JCPenney was added probably because Winter Park Mall was failing fast. The original decor of OFS was very upscale looking for it's time, it wasn't like your average Simon mall. It had huge marble fountains and pretty impressive art sculptures. When they added on and remodeled it went to the horrible pink and teal colors, I'm happy to see they've got a more upscale look on the interior design now. Maison Blance was then bought out by Gayfers, an awful department store from the Gulf Coast somewhere, Mobile or Biloxi or something. When Dillards bought it they don't seem to have done much to "Dillarize" it, I'd say it's probably the worst Dillards around. In the meantime the Ivey's at Winter Park mall became a Dillard's clearance store. Oh, in between all this when Ivey's closed in Winter Park, the built a brand new store on the front end of Colonial Plaza, and also sometime in the 70's Belk moved from the front parking lot (Where the big wine store is) to a whole south mall addition on the other side of Jordan Marsh. When Jordan Marsh/Maas Brothers combined with Allied Stores (Burdines) they chose to shutter Jordan Marsh and keep the Burdines across the street at Fashion Square. The Jordan Marsh at Altamonte Mall became JCPenney. When Dillard's bought Ivey's, Dillards was at Colonial Plaza for a short time. Then Dillards took over Gayfer's and moved to Fashion Square. That was the end of the Colonial Plaza Mall and most of it was demolished. If you look at the back of the Marshall's store you can see the original brick wall of the Belk that was there. So then the 91 recession happened, the Navy Base closed and Florida Mall expanded. They built a single level women's Dillard's where the current Dillards is and a men's Dillards store where the whole newer expansion is now. Belk closed and surprisingly became Saks, The Robinson's/Maison Blanche/Gayfers store became Lord and Taylor after remaining empty several years. Then Dillards rebuilt their current store which is a really nice and larger than average Dillard's. Then the mens' Dillards was torn down and the mall expanded to the Burdines/Macy's wing, and then finally the Nordstrom wing was added. Also the JCPenney expanded and nearly doubled it's size to become one of the largest JCP's in the world. There had been a sign since the late 60's about Florida Mall coming soon on that spot. Every so many years they would repaint the sign and change the opening date. When it opened in 1985 it was pretty much the crappiest mall around, lacking the Jordan Marsh anchor where Dillard's is, and the only anchors were Sears, Robinson's, JCPenney, and Belk. It was a quiet mall until Dillards came in and got really busy when the Burdines and Nordstrom opened. Millenia doesn't seem to have to bad of an impact on it, it's still one of the busiest malls in the country per square foot. As far as Fashion Square and the departure of upscale, about as upscale as they got was when they moved the Gap to another location, and added a huge Limited and a Structure store. There was a Banana Republic on Park Ave. and also a Structure and there was a Benneton in Florida Mall. If OFS manages to keep it's anchors and builds the lifestyle component their could be a rebirth there . The Palm Beach Mall was planning something similar and Macy's and Dillard's pulled out before they could start building their new lifestyle section. Now Palm Beach mall is in the top 10 most struggling malls, I think there is still a JCPenney there. The movie theaters are new to Fashion Square although through the years they had a triplex in the parking lot, destroyed that and build six theaters and AMC built 8 theaters next door called Fashion Village 8. While all this retail madness was going on, Orlando was trying to get "Galleria Orlando" built where Universal Studios is now, the only anchor that ever committed was Ivey's. Colonial Plaza Mall also failed because it was not allowed to add any more restaurants or a food court, the restaurant Ronnie's had a contract with the mall not to add anymore restuarants. The only other eateries in CPM was the McCrory's restaurant and in the south wing a little restaurant called "The Snack Bar." Once OFS added a food court it was the end of CPM. The developers promised to build a "Marketplace Village" with Big Box stores, but it was one of the first in the country and is not pedestrian friendly at all. Winter Park Mall was demolished except for the Penney's building which became Albertson's, now Publix, and the Dillards building where the Cheescake Factory is and the Loft apartments. Whew!
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I think Fye is closing because of technology updates. I can't remember when myself or anyone I know bought a CD.
Fashion Square can be busy and I think it's got a very nice looking interior, but the clientele don't match the neighborhood. If you go across Maguire to Pei Wei, Starbucks, Chipolte, LA Fitness, etc. and the customers are very "Thornton Parkish". The mall seems to be avoided by that crowd or has nothing to offer that crowd. It's hard to match up to Millenia. Altamonte has a decent tenant list, if fashion Square could get some similar retailers. Once a mall loses The Gap.........downhill from there. West Oaks is in the same situation and the new Lifestyle center in Winter Garden has worsened the situation....too bad H &M chose Seminole Towne Center as well as Florida mall. That could have been a draw to OFS.
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That is exactly where it was. Caddycorner across from J.C.Penney.
There was another Monkey Wards on SOBT where the big Goodwill store is now.
That's correct about Sears, I knew it was on that side of the street, just wasn't sure if the building was still standing. I know the Sears at Fashion Square was a stand alone for about 10 years before they built the mall. It was supposed to be a flagship new design. There was a discount store in the building where LA Fitness is called Miller's, and there was a discount store called JM Fields that was first located where Home Depot is on East Colonial near 436, then it moved across the street from Fashion Square, then later became KMart and now is that new shopping center. The executive airport really keeps the population density down in that area, I see even the Denny's has closed down. Hope something happens soon to liven up the area, if possible. That damn airport keeps a lot of stuff from happening!
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Don't feel bad. I've spent my share of time on the microfilm viewers at OPL myself.
What I would like to find is a pic of the "United Markets Building" (may have been "American Markets Building") that was located on the NW corner of Orange & Livingston. When I first heard that DuPont was going to demo that block, I thought about taking a picture, but never got around to it. It had a really nice, ornate facade.
I remember going to Nickel's Alley in the late 70's before I even lived in Orlando.
I remember going to Nickel's Alley, which later on became a teen club, the name escapes me now......and when that closed down, the club Visage opened up off of Clarcona and OBT which was a new wave club, I remember going there and also "Spit" night at club Park Ave. on Mondays and Wednesdays. Park Ave was located on Lake Fairview on OBT. Spit was popular from the early to late 80's. I've also looked at lots of microfilm at OPL......I think I remember Orange Buick being in the Pizutti block, it wasn't very big, it seems like almost all car dealerships were downtown. I think the building of West Colonial, which was the first really wide boulevard with lots of property on each side is what attracted the car dealerships. I also remember the Montgomery Ward store on West Colonial where the OCSherrif's dept is located now. I know there was another Ward's at Interstate Mall in Altamonte, but I can't remember if there was a Montgomery Ward in Orlando before west Colonial. I believe the downtown Sears was located on Robinson, but not quite sure. I know it was off of Orange a bit.....
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I would have to say they've been pitching that idea for a long time. The Denny's across the street just closed this week. In the last year Circuit City, AC Moore, TGI Friday's, UNO, Bennigan's, Denny's have all closed. Amigo's shortly before that. If the restaurants are closing then the mall's not doing enough business to support those restaurants. I would say the delivery business is the only thing keeping Pizza Hut afloat too. They either need to figure something out to make it alive again or tear the mall down, move the anchors to downtown, and build a Baldwin Park extension on the mall site. That may shake things up a bit.
It seems businesses on the south side of East Colonial in the Bennet Road area have always struggled. That huge Colonial Promenade shopping center has never been a success and has always had problems. That was built in a field that used to be airport property. The whole Fashion Square district probably doesn't have the population density needed to survive. Since the bulk of east side suburban population is in Waterford Lakes area, I'm sure the development of Waterford has helped lead to the decline in east Colonial businesses closer to town. Today yahoo has an article about America's most struggling malls and the most successful. Fashion Square was not on either list, but Millenia was listed as one of the most successful. West Palm Beach mall was listed as one of the worst, probably because of it's close location to downtown. With a Macy's downtown and then the opening up of the Mall at Wellington Green in the western suburbs, it looks like it could be a Fashion Square type situation.
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If you go to Glimcher :Properties website and pull up Dayton Mall, you will see that that mall has a DSW as an anchor.
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I'm a big fan of West Palm Beach. Mostly because it isn't just a 2 story building. It interacts with the street nicely and is easy to get to.
In order for Fashion Square to survive it needs to be linked up with downtown proper via Lymmo. I know Fashion Square is only about 3 miles from downtown, and I've walked a lot farther for less, it isn't the most pleasant walk. If we hook this area up to Lymmo we can add some residential units to the area, and I think it would make downtown more attractive to Baldwin Park, and vice versa. Fashion Square also needs to interact with the street better.
I've always thought there should be some sort of people mover or Lymmo service linking downtown, Colonial Plaza, Fashion Square and Park Ave and WP Village. We need some sort of "Retail Connector System." It could link up the parks also, like Lake Eola and Central Park in WP. It's time to incorporate East Colonial into more of a pedestrian friendly shopping district and make it part of the city.
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wow.
Man, I'm a Gator and I bleed orange & blue and always will, but this project brings a tear to my eye b/c I'm so proud of the hometown U for all of its advancements over the years. Go UCF!
Best of both worlds... UF will have a biomed facility at Lake Nona as well!
I love lists:
1. UCF med school
2. Burnham
3. VA
4. Nemours
5. UF bldg.
6. FH bldg (I think)
7. who else is coming here?
Great pics! How is the progress of the VA Medical Center going?
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I don't think they plan to make changes east of I-4. I've always thought that they should have connected Maitland Blvd with Red Bug Road. The two roads line up perfectly and there weren't that many homes in between back in the day.
From what I understand Maitland Blvd. was supposed to connect to Red Bug, but the neighborhood opposition won out.
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If it were in Tampa it could be called "Amscot Center" Would that be any better?