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Great thread. I have always been curious about Cleveland also.

I might try to vist there one day. Any idea what the factory in the first photo is today?

Thanks Guys

METRO---Located in The Flats district the newly renovated 100-year-old Powerhouse features dining, entertainment and specialty retail shops. This four-level brick structure, known for its smokestacks and arched windows, originally powered Cleveland's electric railway and streetcar system and is a National Historic Landmark.

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cleveland's revitalization cant hold a candle to detroits

all cleveland did was clean up downtown build two skyscrapers, two museums and two stadia.....how many major housing starts were there?


how many in detroit? far too many to count. While a nice downtown is great and all, its the neighborhoods that lead the path to righteousness

drop me a line when you're in town

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