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Looks like 2 consecutive parking structures. Worst possible plan. Until the city requires some integrated retail, nothing will change.
Cool shot, RT. Nice.
Does anyone else hate that that garage takes up so much space between Liberty Square 1 &2? I wish they'd build street level retail in front of it with condos or office space above.
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"Hillbilly Linthead Pseudo-Italianate"--a new architectural movement! You gotta love it! They don't call it the Piedmont for nothing...
It seems like there are alot of projects in Greenville that are using the Italian/Tuscan theme. Does anyone have an explanation for why that is? -
I wonder how many interesting buildings were demolished to make way for that parking lot.
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Devoid of pedestrians. No streetscape retail. Looks rather cold and uninviting to me. But it's all nice and orderly. Another lost opportunity, IMO.
Craig Davis Properties, the development firm for Innovista, also served as the development firm for NC State's Centennial Campus in Raleigh. Here are some pictures of the campus (courtesy of forumer Orulz) so I guess Columbia can expect something similar (sans the brick facade):These pictures and the rendering I posted earlier aren't too different.
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That looks good.
Well, at least Columbia isn't alone here. We see this type of thing going on everywhere. I think people in many other different cities get tired of the same standard designs, especially when it comes to condo buildings. At least all the buildings in CanalSide won't look the same; that would be overkill. Personally, I'd like to see some DC-esque modern architecture in Columbia, something like this: -
"Crime and poverty is a direct result of this lack of assistance from the county."
Do you really believe this?
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Does anyone know if these Main St. food business make much money, generally speaking? Are there enough customers to support them?
The former Maureen's location is looking absolutely fabulous! Can't wait to see what goies into this new storefront. -
The river would look a lot nicer if they demolished that old mill dam and returned it to as close to it's natural state as is now possible.
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Ugly and totally unoriginal.
FYI... If you guys haven't gone down Whaley through Olympia recently you may not have noticed that construction has started on the Whaley Row townhomes along Whaley and Lincoln Street. Here's the website.The design is pretty stock, but I'm happy to see more in-fill development for this area. Sounds like they will be quality construction.
The train track that runs between Phase I and Phase II is supposedly going to be abandoned at some point, but there's no timeframe on that as far as I know. As it is now... I can't think of another new development in Columbia where the train comes this close to the residences. But people are apparently paying around 250K for 'em... so whatever!
It is partially gated, but only along areas that don't interface with public spaces, so I'm okay with that I suppose. The front yards of the residences that front the Mill Village Riverlink portion of the greenway along Lincoln Street are not gated. (That is the perspective shown in the artwork above -- facing the townhomes from the greenway across the street.)
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Looks awful, a throwback to 1972 cheap prefab.
This is a small development, but one that was mentioned earlier in this thread. Pre-sales have begun on Stadium-View Condos off Rosewood Drive next to the Hendley Homes redevelopment. -
New Orleans has contributed far more to American culture than Charleston ever will.
I am always amused at the response I get when some clueless person tells me that Charleston looks like NO, and I reply "Yeah,.... Charleston is much older and NO used it as its model." LOL -
Charleston provides the high-end luxury living environment that appeals to senior corporate executives and their spouses. Can't say that about most of the rest of South Carolina, or the South as a whole. Expect more corporate relocations in the future. The downside of this will be Charleston overrun by that most hated of all species: the rich, educated, and productive Yankee. Mythical Charleston lost forever, like a haughty old spinster gone in the teeth.
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And you would quickly go broke....
" If I had the finances, what I personally would do is buy one of the delapidated lots downtown, raze it, and then build a 5 story streat front friendly venue... first floor or two consists of middle to high end shops/reseraunts, mayby a borders, top 3/4 floors would consist of middle to luxury condos/apartments. In other words, create a destination. "
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The man made dam/falls should be demolished. An eyesore. The river would look much better if returned to it's natural state.
I noticed that all the gorgeous trees in the left (and right?) of this picture have been replaced by other Riverwalk landscaping... is that a good thing? those were some nice trees....And silly question of the day: Are those man made falls underneath this bridge? if you were to describe those without using the word falls, how would you do it? (I'm looking for a good clue for this bridge) (thanks!)
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Dismal isn't it? An honest representation of the city. No wonder the suicide rate is so high there.
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So mcashlv, what can Florence do to change that?
They face an impossible challenge. Similar to many small Southern towns, the best, brightest, and most ambitious young people are forced to leave, simply to make a living. This is what really kills these places. FMU, being remotely located in the countryside, on the "wrong" side of town, is disconnected from the rest of the city. There are no attendent businesses such as bookstores, cafes, retailers, etc. that one finds in every other college town. No definable college "district". Only a convenience store, trailer parks, and some sub-standard slum apartments that would have been condemned and demolished long ago in any other city. Add to this a huge (and growing) unassimilable welfare population, and you have a recipe for inevitable decline.
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Interesting opinion. I disagree 100%. If Florence is retreating to the "mythological golden age," maybe they'll discover similar success as Greenville has since its fairly-recent resurrection. I recall several of the most recognized projects being renovations and revitalizations of old buildings, plazas, and neighborhoods - a glimpse into the past as a doorway to the future.
Poor analogy. Greenville and Florence have little in common. No one is talking about restoring historic buildings, which I wholeheartedly support. I didn't say "Florence is retreating into the mythological golden age", only that the leadership class seem to be. Florence and the Pee Dee region is facing economic decline, for a variety of reasons.
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I can understand how a lot of people might like this building--expensive materials, symmetrical, grand, etc. Good intentions. My first impression was that looked like a mausoleum, which in a metaphorical sense it is. A funeral monument to the lost opportunities for the future of Florence. It might have worked had it been tried in the '50s or '60's. Now it's too late. Am I negative towards the Magic City? No, I don't care that much. The Florence leadership class appear determined to go backwards to a mythological golden age, which probably never really existed, instead of trying to tackle the future, with the inherent risk of failure. For $40 million dollars they could have hired one of the world's best architects and gotten a building that would have received some international trade press, and good PR for the dying little town. I know it's easy to criticise. Could I have done better? Yes.
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February 23, 2006
A great old building. Thank God "they" didn't tear it down to build a parking lot.
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I'm going to have to disagree on a few points. First the library an ugly monstrosity? Are we looking at the same building. It is one of the nicest buildings in the state. In fact, it is almost TOO nice, or out of scale with it's abysmal surroundings, but hopefully that will change. I do sympathize with those who argue that they could have downsized the building and added more books/video content, though.
As for the FMU performing arts center....who the hell wants to drive all the way out to Mars Bluff for anything. An FMU presence in downtown is long overdue. The whole FMU campus should have been built downtown to begin with. Yea, tuitions would be a good bit higher, and there would be less land to expand, but Florence would be a totally different city than it is today. But they took the damn free land. Both the campus and the city have been the worse for it.
I don't think Florence is necessarily destined to an "abysmal decline". If city leaders put some pressure on the land owners to clean up their properties or be fined to the hemisphere (Evans St., Dargan St etc.), things will change. The racial politics involved in cleaning up the entire downtown mess is another story, however.
Most of the population of Florence County is semi-literate, at best. A building full of books is not high on their list of attractions (unless they have free video games). It looks like a building from the 19th century, not the 21st. If I were the architect, I'd be embarrassed. More re-hashed Greco-Roman cliches, totally unoriginal. An aged Southerner's idea of "good taste", reflecting a wistful nostalgia for a bygone era. Not that that's a bad thing, but if that's the best they can do, it doesn't bode well for the future of the city. Would be more beneficial for the community to scatter the money over Florence from an airplane.
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I'm going to have to disagree on a few points. First the library an ugly monstrosity? Are we looking at the same building. It is one of the nicest buildings in the state. In fact, it is almost TOO nice, or out of scale with it's abysmal surroundings, but hopefully that will change. I do sympathize with those who argue that they could have downsized the building and added more books/video content, though.
As for the FMU performing arts center....who the hell wants to drive all the way out to Mars Bluff for anything. An FMU presence in downtown is long overdue. The whole FMU campus should have been built downtown to begin with. Yea, tuitions would be a good bit higher, and there would be less land to expand, but Florence would be a totally different city than it is today. But they took the damn free land. Both the campus and the city have been the worse for it.
I don't think Florence is necessarily destined to an "abysmal decline". If city leaders put some pressure on the land owners to clean up their properties or be fined to the hemisphere (Evans St., Dargan St etc.), things will change. The racial politics involved in cleaning up the entire downtown mess is another story, however.
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Greenville is one pretty city!
You should have seen it in the 1950's.
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I'm a little stunned that anybody could seriously perceive that Berkeley in any way resembles Florence, SC. Anyone lucky enough to live in the SF Bay area with a good job should thank their lucky stars and forget about Florence. You have opportunities before you in the Bay Area that are undreamt of in Florence. I hope you can realize that, and make the most of it.