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  1. Did RDU make a mistake by being the only major airport in NC not to build a new major runway?

    Friday, April 19, 2002

    Third runway seen on RDU's horizon

    Triangle Business Journal - by Shane Snider

    MORRISVILLE -- Raleigh-Durham Inter-national Airport intends to take flight with plans for a 9,500-foot runway parallel to its two existing strips -- a project that could cost the airport $200 million or more when the work is completed in 2010.

    A new runway has been on RDU's wish list since 1992, when the authority overseeing the facility developed a long-term master plan.

    Besides RDU, new runways are expected to be completed at Charlotte's Douglas International Airport and at Greensboro's Piedmont Triad International Airport. Charlotte's runway is scheduled for completion in 2004.

    Ted Johnson, executive director of the Greensboro airport, says the airport's plans for a 9,000-foot runway will cost about $120 million.

    Read more: Third runway seen on RDU's horizon - Triangle Business Journal

    http://triangle.bizjournals.com/triangle/stories/2002/04/22/story6.html

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    Delta Airlines to Add Flights and Seats at PTI

    http://www.flyfrompti.com/delta-airlines-to-add-flights-and-seats-at-pti/

    April 27, 2010

    Piedmont Triad, NC – Delta Airlines will add two flights from Piedmont Triad

    International Airport to Atlanta in June, bringing the total number of daily

    departures from PTI to Atlanta to 12, airport officials announced Tuesday.

    Delta intends to upgrade two of the departures to Atlanta from

    regional jets to mainline jets, maintaining the same number of departures, but

    increasing significantly the number of seats from PTI to Atlanta.

    AirportNewRunway.jpg

    Though built for $150 million to accommodate FedEx, the new runway is open to all aviation traffic. The runway was funded primarily through federal government grants, along with $30 million from locally generated authority revenues.

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    Thursday, May. 13, 2010

    Overseas flights surging in Charlotte

    US Airways shifts international focus away from Philadelphia

    By Steve Harrison

    The Charlotte Observer

    US Airways will launch Charlotte's first non-stop flight to Rome tonight - the latest expansion of international service that has significantly increased the Queen City's overseas connections.

    In the last year, US Airways has announced or started non-stops from Charlotte to Paris, Rome, Ottawa, Rio de Janeiro, and Puerto Vallarta and Los Cabos in Mexico. The airline said more international flights may be coming to Charlotte because it has a surplus of long-range aircraft after it cut flights in some markets.

    The airport's third parallel runway adjacent to I-485 opened in February.

    The Charlotte Chamber has long believed that Charlotte's extensive domestic non-stops are crucial in persuading businesses to relocate or expand in the city. But international flights can also improve business connections and give the region prestige, the chamber has said.

    http://www.heraldonline.com/2010/05/13/2164987/overseas-flights-surging-in-charlotte.html

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    The $325 million project was funded by the federal government and general airport revenue bonds. It also included road relocation and adjoining roadway construction.

  2. Actually, I believe you may have that a bit incorrect. The location of the third runway shown in DPK post is the location proposed by the FAA that would absolutely allow simultaneous take-offs and landings. you will also have to know that because RDU has 2 runways configured where they are, they is more than enough room for whatever comes. The biggest continguent on a third runway would be a hub operation at RDU, which is not in the future. Should the runway be needed, I don't think it would tak a lot of work to get it going.. just a lot of money. And I don't think it would hinder growth at RDU. And the location of the 3rd runway at RDU would be directly over the old Airport Road, which is very much sufficient for multiple take-offs.

    It doesn't. A jet can not take off simultaneously at those 2 runways next to one another that close. Just take a look at other airports. Runways cannot be side by side like that and handle simultaneous take off and landings.

    But, the main point is as of the completion of the new runway at GSO they are up and ready for expansion. They have 3 jet runways. RDU has only 2. RDU should not allow themselves to get set back like this. They should be proactive and always be ahead of the game and not wait until they need it and the cost is even more.

  3. I would say 1987, the Juke Box building, AKA First Union, is about a third of the way up, and the site is cleared for City Fair, which later became the site for the Hearst Tower. Cool photos.

    That does look as if it's One First Union under construction.

  4. It seems like from the beginning there was a plan to close Terminal 1 (former A and B). When you think about the fact that at most US airports any terminal or concourse that was built in 1987, regardless of its use are, all still open. That's considered very young for an airport facility. Yet, at RDU they left the oldest Terminal building, former "B" and what was actually built as a temporary terminal, former Terminal "A".

    The first modern passenger terminal opened in 1955. Eastern Airlines started jet airline service on April 25, 1965.

    Delta Airlines came on June 15, 1970 and President Jimmy Carter signed the Airline Deregulation Act in 1978 and resulted growth in the aviation industry in the 1980s.

    Terminal A (the blue portion building) opened January 24, 1982 with 18 gates (later in 2001 expaned to add 5 gates). The original 1955 terminal was renovated in 1983 to provide additional gates and was renamed Terminal B.

    On April 11, 1985 American Airlines began service at Raleigh-Durham. American Airlines also requested the opportunity to the airport its North-South hub.

    On May 31, 1987 the Federal Aviation Administration opened the 230ft tall control tower, the tallest in the state.

    On June 15, 1987 American Airlines opened the red roofed Terminal C. At hub's peak operation American Airlines operated 210 daily departures from Terminal C making RDU a major hub and a major national US airport. American Airlines made RDU an international airport on May 26, 1988 with one daily flight to Paris, France and in 1989 with flights to the United Kingdom, Bermuda and Mexico.

    In mid-December 1989, Eastern Air Lines' creditors and AMR Corporation (parent of American Airlines and American Eagle) agreed upon the sale of Eastern's Latin American routes from Miami. Miami subsequently became an American Airline hub in 1989, which undercut the airline's hub at Raleigh-Durham and Nashville, with most of the new Miami flights serving Northeastern cities directly, bypassing Raleigh-Durham.

    In 1992 Terminal A was renovated and in 1996 the newly constructed north concourse

    opened, providing 9 additional gates.

    American Airlines began downsizing its operations at Raleigh-Durham in September 1993

    On February 24, 1993 American Airlines said it had agreed to delay for 18 months a final decision on closing its unprofitable Raleigh-Durham hub.

    International service to Paris ceased in September 1994.

    December 10, 1994 in a surprise announcement that was the death knell for American Airlines' hub at Raleigh-Durham International Airport, American Eagle said that it would cease all operations by early January 1995.

    At the beginning of 1994 American Airlines had 109 daily jet flights and by August 1994 American Eagle had 112 daily flights. By December 1994 American Airlines had only 63 jet flights daily and 94 American Eagle flights. With the pullout both American Eagle and American Airlines reduced its presence at RDU to 60 flights, down from 192 flights 11 months before in 1993 and down from 210 daily flights at its peak.

    With 45 daily departures remaining, the American Airlines hub at Raleigh-Durham was officially closed on May 1, 1996, one year after the closing of American's Nashville hub and shortly before the airline's termination of its San Jose hub.

    In March of 1995 Midway Airlines relocated its hub from Chicago to Raleigh-Durham, leasing at least 7 gates formerly used by American Airlines in Terminal C. The company had contracted with American Airlines for maintenance and had a relationship with American Airlines for frequent flier miles.

    By March of 2000 Midway and Corporate Airlines offered a total of 232 departures and arrivals daily at Raleigh-Durham International Airport.

    At the height of Midway's operations it offered almost 200 flights daily from Raleigh-Durham.

    The high-tech slump of 2000-01 hurt Midway, and the carrier abruptly filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy on the evening of August 13, 2001.

  5. RDU's Terminal 1 could close temporarily

    http://www.newsobserver.com/news/story/1387804.html

    To save money, Raleigh-Durham International Airport might temporarily close the old Terminal 1 in 2011, after it finishes building its $570 million Terminal 2.

    .....The airport has been in a similar position before. After Eastern Airlines went out of business in 1989, part of the building now known as Terminal 1 stayed shut for five years.

  6. Raleigh-Durham and Charlotte ranked side by side in terms of traffic in 2007. If you take North Carolina's 3 largest airports there are 18,553,030 O&D passengers that would make all of the airports combinded about ranking of Newark or Philadelphia.

    Top 120 U.S. Airports Ranked By Domestic Origin-and-Destination (O&D) Traffic, Year Ended March 2007

    1. Las Vegas 32,560,340

    2. Los Angeles 31,169,270

    3. Chicago O'Hare 28,761,370

    4. Orlando 28,213,420

    5. Atlanta 26,175,350

    6. Phoenix 23,949,290

    7. Denver 22,692,280

    8. New York LaGuardia 21,938,740

    9. Dallas-Fort Worth 21,571,040

    10. Boston 20,675,030

    11. Seattle 19,957,130

    12. Newark (New York area) 19,824,960

    13. Philadelphia 17,392,770

    14. New York Kennedy JFK 7,371,400

    15. Ft. Lauderdale (Miami area) 17,195,140

    16. San Francisco 16,485,740

    17. Tampa 16,140,660

    18. Baltimore (Washington area) 15,780,160

    19. San Diego 15,562,140

    20. Detroit 15,437,130

    21. Minneapolis/St. Paul 15,346,730

    22. Washington National 13,681,880

    23. Houston 13,504,130

    24. Oakland 13,153,770

    25. Chicago Midway 12,690,610

    26. Honolulu 12,356,150

    27. Portland 10,908,610 12 47

    28. Washington Dulles 10,346,770

    29. St. Louis 1 0,228,960

    30. Salt Lake City 1 0,102,890

    31. Sacramento SMF 9 ,676,680

    32. San Jose 9 ,523,080

    33. Kansas City 9 ,457,360

    34. Orange County 9 ,272,920

    35. Miami 9,230,050

    36. Charlotte Douglas 8,395,280

    37. Raleigh-Durham 8,308,760

    38. Nashville 7,831,330

    39. Pittsburgh 7,537,030

    40. Cleveland 7,364,650

    41. Fort Myers 7,229,720

    42. Indianapolis 7,127,620

    43. Austin 7,074,990

    44. San Antonio 6 ,935,830

    45. West Palm Beach (Miami area) 6 ,483,690

    46. Ontario 6 ,401,650

    47. Hartford 6 ,288,780

    48. Columbus 6 ,187,620

    49. New Orleans 6,177,040

    50. San Juan 6,109,650

    51. Houston Hobby 6,040,190

    52. Burbank 5,623,870

    53. Jacksonville 5,594,160

    54. Milwaukee 5,448,230

    55. Dallas Love Field 5,441,160

    56. Albuquerque 5,403,620

    57. Kahului 5,108,160

    58. Providence 4,890,800

    59. Buffalo 4,714,190

    60. Reno 4,413,720

    61. Cincinnati 4,310,500

    62. Memphis 4,157,930

    63. Tucson 3,858,940

    64. Omaha 3,858,830

    65. Manchester 3,713,980

    66. Norfolk 3,378,680

    67. Louisville 3,303,430

    68. Anchorage 3,297,170

    69. Oklahoma City 3,169,500

    70. Richmond 3,068,760

    71. Spokane 3,027,250

    72. El Paso 2,991,440

    73. Boise 2,931,830

    74. Birmingham 2,844,490

    75. Tulsa 2,829,630

    76. Albany 2,717,950

    77. Lihue 2,610,550

    78. Rochester 2,599,610

    79. Kona 2,582,760

    80. Long Beach 2,541,670

    81. Dayton 2,462,280

    82. Islip 2,274,210

    83. Little Rock 2,261,630

    84. Syracuse 2,111,980

    85. Greensboro Piedmont Triad 1 ,848,990

    86. Colorado Springs 1,840,000

    87. Grand Rapids 1,762,780

    88. Savannah 1,726,880

    89. Charleston SC 1,690,890

    90. Des Moines 1,679,320

    91. Pensacola 1,490,320

    92. Knoxville 1,442,620

    93. Hilo 1,438,500

    94. Portland 1,423,890

    95. Madison 1,388,450

    96. Sarasota/Bradenton 1,386,110

    97. Myrtle Beach 1,348,280

    98. Jackson MS 1,342,260

    99. Palm Springs 1,340,360

    100. Akron/Canton 1,330,060

    101. Greenville/Spartanburg 1,304,550

    102. Wichita 1,270,010

    103. Burlington 1,265,850

    104. Columbia SC 1,137,230

    105. Westchester County 1,128,900

    106. Fresno 1,081,060

    107. Lubbock 1,064,970

    108. Harrisburg 1,061,030

    109. St. Thomas 1,044,820

    110. Fayetteville 1,009,460

    111. Huntsville 1,002,850

    112. Flint 995,200

    113. Newport News (Norfolk-Virginia Beach area) 976,900

    114. Midland/Odessa 913,780

    115. Baton Rouge 906,020

    116. Cedar Rapids/Iowa City 894,370

    117. Tallahassee 871,820

    118. Lexington 864,460

    119. Amarillo 846,630

    120. Harlingen 839,430

  7. Raleigh-Durham's International flights.

    American brought RDU its first international flights

    May 28, 1988 -American Airlines started nonstop flights between Paris and the Raleigh-Durham Airport in North Carolina. The flights are the first international service from Raleigh-Durham Airport and the airport is being renamed the Raleigh-Durham International Airport.

    From 1988 to 1994 American Airlines offered non-stop flights to Paris as American closed its RDU hub and repolaced it with the Miami hub.

    American Airlines also offered non-stop flights from Raleigh-Durham to:

    Bermuda

    Cancun, Mexico

    Paris Orly, France

    Nassau, Bahamas

    Also, there were flights to San Juan, Puerto Rico USA, and to the US Virgin Islands.

    In 1991 USAir (now called US Airways) accounted for 93% of Charlotte Douglas International Airport's then 6.5 million passenger boardings through October 1991, and American Airlines had more than half of Raleigh-Durham International's 3.9 million passenger boardings. But at that time 75% of Charlotte's boardings and 53% of Raleigh-Durham's boardings were from connecting flights.

    Today Raleigh-Durham originates most of its passengers as it is no-longer a hub airport. Where Charlotte still is a major hub airport for US Airways.

    On May 26, 1994 the first nonstop flight from London, United Kingdom arrived at Raleigh-Durham Intenational Airport.

    Raleigh-Durham International Airport's first international carrier was Air Canada, with nonstop service to Toronto, Canada in 1996.

    Canadian Regional began service to Toronto, Canada in 1997.

    In 2002 Raleigh-Durham International Airport was seeking direct nonstop flights to Germany. As there are over 30 companies in the Raleigh-Durham metropolitan area that based in Germany. Local executives with German companies were prompting a push for nonstop service from Raleigh-Durham International Airport to Frankfurt.

  8. ^No, The train is not in the same ROW as cars. It doesn't stop at lights, and is not affected by normal traffic in any way. Cars however will have to stop at rail crossings. The train is in the median of N. Tryon, not in a car lane.

    Then it's like the light rail in Houston in the photo above?

    Cars crash into the light rail cars in Houston. There are too many intersection crossings.

  9. The NE LRT line will not be like a modern trolley system. It will be separated from traffic thus nothing else will use the path the LRT takes.

    Neo, Isn't Charlotte's N. Tryon Blue line going to be more like Phoenix and Houston? The photo you posted is the Muni rail system in San Francisco.

    These kind stop at stop lights like buses. The light rail in San Francisco stops at stop lights like a modern day street car when it comes out from the subway.

    Phoenix

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    Houston

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    San Francisco Muni rail

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    Muni is a subway downtown San Francisco

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  10. The President released his FY 2009 recommended budget today. In it is a line item for $1.9M for Charlotte Rapid Transit in moneys from the New Starts Capital Fund. This money will likely go towards the PE for the Blue Line Extention towards UNCC.

    This $1.9M would be in addition to the FY2008 monies which were just recently approved.

    While this is just a recomendation at this point and is a long ways from becoming approved or even happening at all it is nice to see that the FTA feels good enough about the Blue Line Extention that they would recommend it for PE funding in FY 2009.

    This is great news. It really would be nice if Charlotte could build the north line in its own right of way the same as the South portion of the Blue Line.

    But, as of now it will be like a modern trolley car system running up and down the center of N. Tryon Street.

  11. I'm sort of dissapointed that Charlotte will be building the northern portion of the Blue Line in the center of North Tryon instead of building it a lot like the southern portion which is mostly in it's own right of way.

    I think it more like a street car if you run light rail in the street. It's more like heavy rail if you run the rail like they have on the current portion of Charlotte's light rail system.

  12. And it would look like this:

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    Personally I don't like it, and it going to be very similar to Houston's LRT and that system has been known to have several accidents with automobiles trying to cross the intersections. Using the split platforms do save space and it wouldn't need such a wide ROW.

    This is the worst design for rapid rail transit. Trains should never run in the streets with cars unless it's a modern day trolley/street car system.

    If a city is building a light rail system as a cheaper version of a heavy rail "metro" styled system Charlotte should build all lines to be most like the Southern portion of the Blue Line in its own Right-of-Way.

    And it's true in Houston that cars crash into the trains.

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