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6 hours ago, gman430 said:

Loud exhausts and loud music coming from vehicles has been an issue downtown for a longgg time. Where have you all been?  It’s nothing new and shouldn’t be a surprise when you do hear it on a Saturday night. 

Speaking of noise, can something be done about all of the Bob Jones Bible thumpers that have megaphones downtown too? That’s violating the noise ordinance. We must repent. Jesus saves. Oh and get rid of the people with the saxophones and whatnot too. That’s also violating the noise ordinance. And leaf blowers, dogs barking, street cleaners, the Falls Park waterfall, Greenlink transit buses, the bells in the Main Street trees, etc. Anything that creates a noise I want banned. I want to be able to go downtown and hear complete silence. 
 

Anyways, this thread has gone off the rails.

I agree this thread did take a turn off the rails. I was not implying anything about noise as the major issue. As I mentioned, I live downtown and I can count at least 15 times over the last 3 months where I have had someone puke, urinate, put cigarettes out on the front door entrance, vandalized, found needles on the sidewalk, etc. I have contacted the police department at least half of those times with nothing done other than a “nightly patrol” for a few nights then it is back to same ol story.  And for those that do not know, just about two months ago there was a stabbing (yes a stabbing) at Cigar Lounge (above Reys). We were eating at Trio’s and watched it unfold, watched an ambulance come along with about 15 police cars. Do you think the media (newspaper, tv, etc) reported this? Absolutely not.  Just like I know first hand that the city council and county council have been told to not speak under any circumstance about the homeless situation downtown.  

[The State of Downtown Retail]

On 7/17/2022 at 9:17 AM, Horatio Nelson said:

I was downtown at the exact same time at the exact same place, and I have no idea what you are talking about. There are a couple of bars in that area like Sip (which tell me if I'm crazy the clientele of that bar got a lot younger after the pandemic) so people tend to congregate. 

It hasn't really changed over the last ten years I've been downtown around that time (maybe more people). The nightlife of a city tends to be a different crowd than during the day.

I will agree about loud cars but I've never understood why people drive down mainstreet in the first place much less while reving their engines or playing loud music.

I think it is a mixture of Sip, Ink & Ivy, Vine, Society, DT’s, Rey’s, Cigar Lounge, etc all being within a 2 block radius of one another. I have lived downtown on Main St for over 10 years and have had my business located in several of the larger office towers downtown for about the same amount of time and I am telling you I have never seen the clientele that I have seen recently. It reminds me of the area around Falls Park that got so bad with the same type of people that they had to implement a curfew after 11pm.  Maybe the new restaurants (Scoundrel, Bricktops, etc) and the Kiyatec redevelopment will change the scenery some but I have never been more disturbed downtown. This is coming from someone that is downtown 300+ days/nights of the year and have been for many years.
 

 

 

 

 

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What has happened to downtown Greenville? We were downtown around Trio at 11pm tonight and I have never seen such a different crowd in my life. There were cars with bass blasting all down Main Street, fights in the road, screaming, etc.  It seems like Main St is now for only 25 and under and thugs