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  1. On 1/2/2023 at 11:26 AM, JeanClt said:

    If the renderings are still up-to-date or if the plans are of similar structure, there should have been a plan for the station portion to have been built yesterday and have just the site prep read to support any future development over top the station. It’s taking way too long for what is a crucial and a beyond necessary move to a more updated facility. I’m an genuinely curious as to what is so damning in these designs that won’t let the station be constructed before anything else after this entire time that it has been proposed.

    Nothing damning.

    It's an extremely complex P3 (public private partnership) w/ three stations (Amtrak, Silver Line, Bus), multiple rail corridors/sets of platforms, and significant associated public facilities.  There are ownership, leasing relationships between the developer, City, State and others related to these.  Financials to build station facilities likely tied to the overall deal - which means a baseline project program and design is needed to get to go on the financial agreements w/ City.

    It's also been envisioned as a seamless mixed-use project, with buildings rising above, but also (lobbies, elevators, F&B, etc) coming to ground, where they have to interact and fit w/ all of the public facilities.  So splitting off pieces and parts to be developed in advance is difficult and would likely always feel "separate".  Not impossible, but also not in the best interest of a transformational design project.

    The real culprit is the Silver Line back and forth over the past year re: alignment + that prevented the design and financial agreements from getting to a place where things could be more final and move forward (again, b/c it's envisioned to be fully integrated into the overall and every alignment move that changes from the current plan causes many many ripples...)

    Unfortunately, these transformational P3s take time.  But if done right are usually worth the wait when they finally get to go.

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  2. 17 hours ago, kermit said:

    Transit expansion is completely stalled, with no signs of moving forward. The transit tax voters who are paying attention are angry. Planning is weird (11th st route) and flaky (sharing ROW w Blue Line)). Absolutely no efforts to get permission for the vote in Raleigh. A regional planning process that is nothing more than some emails and vague maps. All at a time when there is more federal money available for transit than any other time in the past half century.

    I am having a tough time seeing how it could get worse.

    Agree 100%,  and unfortunately, there is something that can get worse if they're not careful.  At the corner of Trade and Graham. 

  3. 1 hour ago, RANYC said:

    Hilarious seeing all the reaction on social media.

    I'm assuming the folks running this property are pros, intensely data-driven, and did their research.

    I'm sure the abuses that were taking place were far costlier than the incremental benefit of occasional patrons who actually stay for >3 hours spending money the entire time.

    I'm sure if you plot a per person dollars spent figure versus time spent at the Hall, the resulting graph plummets like a meteor.

    As brutal as it sounds, if I'm running OH, I set the $18 figure to deter the abuses, and the $5 between 90 min and 180 min so that those who linger have the discretionary means to scoff at $5 if they're making a big deal of the time spent at OH on a given day.  All others are free to take transit, rideshare, cycles and scooters, or some combo thereof. 

    Social media definitely not the place for thoughtful or informed insight into development   :tw_joy:

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  4. 21 minutes ago, TGIBridays said:

    I was definitely thinking of Trade. You'd think after growing up and living 90% of my life here I would be better at road names... But I always manage to get all the roads confused.  :tw_expressionless:  

    I guess I can see it working if it's transit only, but I'm still a proponent of making the whole thing grade separated. 

    https://www.chicagotribune.com/opinion/commentary/ct-opinion-flashback-state-street-pedestrian-mall-20191025-cos5svz7w5dvzgznqouu2xqimu-story.html

  5. 2 hours ago, kermit said:

    As usual my memory is unreliable. Here is what I found:

    The rendering I was thinking of (it does not include the Silver Line) but does include rail trail. 

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    This Gateway Station area report has lots different perspectives to the above. Frustratingly there does not appear to be any mention of the Silver Line in the report: https://charlottenc.gov/cats/transit-planning/charlotte-gateway-station/Documents/CGS MSAP - Final Report.pdf

    CATS definitely published maps of the Silver Line route for public meetings, and one of those maps sketched the route and Gateway station with decent detail. I am still looking for this map.

     

    These images can be archived.  Completely new approach has emerged.

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  6. 7 minutes ago, JBS said:

    Looks good. Assume the aquarium will be in the Coral District (TM)?

    But seriously, there needs to be a hotel tower next to the stadium (with the aforementioned bars/restaurants below). We need somewhere for ESPN to host the Super Bowl  from...

    Thanks a lot....now anything they propose will disappoint me. 

    Blame Calatrava...

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  7. 4 minutes ago, go_vertical said:

    I really like the idea of this land becoming an entertainment district.  A new stadium (with never-blocked signage to cars passing by) wedged in between 277 and 77 would work out really well where office and residential wouldn't be the most desirable.  Have bars, shops, and restaurants along Morehead with dense residential bleeding north along McNinch, Cedar, and Eldridge.  The removal of BofA stadium would help facilitate the rebuilding of the street grid in the area and also provide growing room for the success that is the southern tip of uptown. 

    The land south of 77 would be perfect for another large scale attraction such as an aquarium adjacent to the 277/77 interchange.  Just improve the connectivity underneath the highway and place a garage for events just outside of 277 with easy access for cars thus minimizing the need for out of town visitors to use surface roads.  This would also give the Gold District more room to grow and provide some solid attractions and customers for area businesses. 

    I just think this stretch of land is perfect for large scale developments without disrupting the fabric of the central core too much. 

    Love the aquarium idea! 

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  8. 26 minutes ago, RANYC said:

    From what I've read, the Brooklyn Redevelopment Agreement that BK Partners negotiated with the County says that construction must begin by February 2023.  Yet, Peebles is reported as telling a gathering this month that he expects to break ground in 16-18 months.  Such a ground-breaking would appear to be in violation of the agreement, and the county will need to decide whether to continue the deal with Peebles and BK Partners while suffering yet another delay, or to go with a different developer.  

    Perhaps Peebles has his hands too full with these celestial ambitions in Manhattan.  Maybe BK Partners approaching the county for an extension gives the County the opportunity and pivot point to invite other developers into the redevelopment of Brooklyn so that it's not just one development group given charge over 17-acres of downtown real estate.  After all, Brooklyn Village was a village-style neighborhood with small-footprint structures alongside narrow streets in very walkable density.  Perhaps Brooklyn Village Charlotte can feel more like Brooklyn Heights or Park Slope in NYC, and less like the big-box scale of Hudson Yards.  I love NYC, lived there for ages, but feel no envy to make me want to measure any Charlotte redevelopment initiatives against anything going on in Manhattan.

    The public/private game has definitely changed since the BV bid was awarded. As well as national developer interest in these complex multi block deals in Charlotte.  
     

    Lots of investment into/by the BK group though to this point. Interesting political provocation. Already on extension of original agreement. 

  9. 13 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

    So basically, there's still nothing to suggest that Peebles, perhaps in conjunction with a local partner, can't build BV.  I think that it all depends on a strong local developer working with him.

    Just reporting the news that the tower everyone was excited about further up in topic will, in fact, not be built.

    not arguing w you re: NY high rise boom. Very close w RXR on multiple fronts. Exciting week for that one…

  10. 12 hours ago, blopp1234 said:

    I 100% agree with this analysis and it seems like it has so much potential. With that being said, I don’t think y’all should sell yourselves short, Charlotte has tremendous potential for passenger rail expansion, serving as a major lynchpin for the entire planned southeast rail network and I don’t think y’all should think small in terms of your station.

     

    While it currently serves 12 trains per day, the infrastructure proposal Amtrak has proposed would add an additional four trains to Atlanta, plus improvements to the piedmont and southeast regional line which could bring an unspecified number of new trains. Im honestly surprised that NC hasn’t followed VA’s lead on the NC railroad from Greensboro to Charlotte, seeing how it has potential to be a massive intercity and regional rail route. Seems like a dedicated double track right of way could be extremely beneficial in fostering commuter rail to Kannapolis or Salisbury, as well as Amtrak service to points north. 
     

    As far as possible comparisons for a station, I really think Sacramento and Albany have great stations in terms of scale (for some reason, most of the old circular gateway renderings seem very small to me, like something you’d find in a city like Durham or Wilmington, not Charlotte). You don’t need constant pedestrian activity to have a decent sized passenger space as that is usually determined by maximum passengers using the station at peak times.

     

    While gateway won’t have the constant pedestrian activity like a station with a large regional rail network would have, doesn’t mean the station shouldn’t be able to handle that in the future, especially if it’s going to “last for the next 100 years.”

    Great post. Previous analysis of Denver Union also good.


    I will differ in saying that Charlotte actually has the potential to be much more interesting/ dynamic/ multilayered than Denver union station (as a fully mixed use development on the station block).  Choosing to be very optimistic and anticipating great things re: design and activation. 

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