carolina1792

April 18

Better look at the whole hotel as soon in the initial render. The design is subject to change as the developer receives input from the city.

April 10

On 4/5/2024 at 1:25 PM, jtmonk said:

@I miss RVA I wouldn't read too much into the Raleigh rezoning. In Raleigh, if developers want to construct anything above 20 stories, they typically have to rezone it for up to 40 stories. It's likely that these developers intend to build something within the 20-30 story range. However, due to zoning regulations, they're required to zone it up to 40 stories, but that doesn't necessarily imply they'll actually build to that height.

The bones of the zoning regulations in Raleigh were designed by a very anti-growth city council in the early to mid 2010s. Not only story limits but also height limits that made it difficult to get max entitlement. No only did most of downtown zoned to only about 4 to 12 stories but made it an ordeal to get rezoned. A pro-density city council was voted into power in 2019 and loosen some of the regulations however the current city council is 50/50 pro-density/anti-density.

If you think RVA is an outliner--well, as far as I'm aware downtown Richmond is getting a new office tower over 430 feet. There hasn't been a tower taller than 23 stories or 350 feet built in downtown Raleigh in over 5 years. Apparently there's 4 towers over 30 stories approved in downtown but not a single one has started construction or given a timeline.

February 23

4 hours ago, smeagolsfree said:

Sorry guys, I do not get it either. It seems as if the Music City Stars organization has some sort of spell over the MLB or has information, they are not telling anyone. The mayor has been quite clear that if the MLB wants to come to Nashville, they will have to self-fund it with a rich ownership team to build the stadium with their own funds. The Stars just this week announced a partnership with Mortenson Companies to access to 5 possible stadium sites in the Metro area. These sites are not in just Davidson County but also in Williamson and Rutherford. They could get backing from one of the other outlying counties with plenty of money to spend. If I had money to bet, my money would be on Willaimson that is the closest to the downtown area with the richest county in the state and one of the richest in the nation.

It would not be the first time an MLB team would be based outside the city they are supposed to be in. I do not think they will go on the East Bank as they can't afford the land there. Besides the land on the EB is pretty much planned for at this point unless they go to the scrap yard site which is still owned by Carl Ichan, and he will not let it go for pennies on the dollar and lots of remediation has to be done and the soil is contaminated. The land by TSU will be free but a crappy location. Lots of infrastructure work to be done for a stadium. The roads are not suited for that kind of traffic to get in and out of that location.

North Carolina suffers from not being very prominent in popular culture. Nashville doesn't have this issue. The average Americans doesn't see the difference in size and economy of Nashville vs a big metro like Houston. Also, investors are hoping to make a Las Vegas of the East.

February 20

40 minutes ago, KJHburg said:

I just read this myself and this is a big plum probably end up in Durham or Wake counties as Orange County is so limited in sites. Maybe this could be near or a part of RTP in terms of some large landowner selling some of their land there. another idea is that the state should gift some of the state owned land in west Raleigh off Edwards Mill Rd area.

Here are some details:

""UNC Health is in the early stages of planning to build a state-of-the-art, multibillion-dollar children's hospital in the Triangle region. It's a years-long project that would require hundreds of acres and that could become one of the largest economic development projects in the area's history.

North Carolina is one of the largest state's in the U.S. without a freestanding children's hospital, putting limitations on the availability of care and pushing families to seek care outside of the state. UNC Health is aiming to change that with a $2 billion to $3 billion investment in a new facility that could serve the entire Southeast.

The health system recently formed a new leadership team solely dedicated to advancing what UNC officials say will be an eight- to 10-year project.

UNC Health envisions a facility with between 500 to 600 beds, with 100 of those dedicated solely to behavioral health patients, Willis said. The hospital would serve as the focal point of a children's health care campus, that could also include medical office buildings, outpatient facilities and capacity for research activities.

This will require a lot of land and capital. UNC health is searching for between 200 to 300 acres of land to build out the campus. The health system expects the project to cost at least $2 billion, which includes an initial $320 million investment that UNC Health received last year from lawmakers in the state budget""

UNC System is no longer headquartered in Chapel Hills and Orange County hasn't kept up with growth like the rest of the counties in the Triangle. Given that the lead for this project lives in Cary I would say RTP, Cary, or West Raleigh.

February 20

UNC Health looking to build the state's first self-standing children's hospital at the cost of over $3 billion dollars.

https://www.bizjournals.com/triangle/news/2024/02/20/unc-health-childrens-hospital-fundraising-land.html

February 19

On 2/17/2024 at 7:44 PM, KJHburg said:

Saw these online while I was up in Durham (the socials were convincing me )

I state again I am 100% supportive of a MLB team to NC and very supportive of a Raleigh effort for the Triangle.

Rumor is that there is multiple parties have joined up and are in the process of creating a final campaign to bring MLB to Raleigh including the City of Raleigh and part of that campaign includes finalizing the stadium location: Downtown South. Now that MLS is out for now, the old MLS stadium plans can be easily retro-fitted for MLB.

Located next to a major highway while only being about 1 mile from downtown proper, if Raleigh wins a MLB team, it will accelerate the transformation of south Raleigh from lowly light industrial area with low population density to one of the most vibrant and densely populated areas in Raleigh. Given the lack of wealthy, old neighborhoods the resistance to density in south Raleigh has been mild so far.

February 16

Being the first major project on this corridor and also 20 stories it seems really out of place at the moment. However, I'm sure that will change once Lake Wheeler Road redesign project is completed and other projects start to rise.

February 1

15 hours ago, KJHburg said:

Just looking at your nonstop flights out of RDU vs another city and RDU is very impressive.

Nonstop Destinations - Raleigh-Durham International Airport (rdu.com)

here is Austin's often a competitor to Raleigh Durham for economic development projects

Nonstop_Map_2023_white.ai (austintexas.gov)

Another international route being announced on Monday, according to Ishrion Aviation today. Though it could also mean that BA is taking over the London route.

"Another week, another new (international) airline and route for Raleigh/Durham. RDU's air service developments over the past years have been exceptional, and the next big one is this coming Monday"

January 19

On 1/18/2024 at 2:52 PM, Blue Ridge said:

Seems like an absolute no brainer to me. Borrow inspiration from the infill and density spurred by Charlotte’s Blue Line and scale from there. (Yes, I realize it’s somewhat apples to oranges - maybe like Honeycrisp to Granny Smith - but let’s aim high here.)

The City of Raleigh city council lacks them yes. This rezoning is not likely to pass this city council that largely only cares about a few wealth home owners versus the overall well-being of the 500,000 citizens of Raleigh. There's even one city council member that votes no to basically every single rezoning case involving large projects, regardless. If it passes it would be a surprise.

January 16

10 hours ago, KJHburg said:

do you think the third phase of the Weld going forward is in response to dad's (Mr John Kane) delays in Downtown South getting that started? I think the Weld is being developed by Kane Jr. sorry I can't remember his first name.

For sure it's because of the office element. This project is all residential and funding secure a couple years back while John Kane is old school and wants an office element at Downtown South. Sitting on empty office towers is not ideal.

January 12

The Weld south of downtown Raleigh project is going up fast, 3rd 20-story tower plans have just been submitted :

3rd Weld tower (The Weld Phase 2) will include 525 apartments and at least some retail.

January 2

Dundon now has the partnership with Wake County and the Centennial Authority to build out a sports-oriented entertainment district around PNC Arena a la "The Battery Atlanta". If Dundon wants a MLB team, the #1 location would be next to his other team and the large sports gambling facility he's hoping to build.

December 26, 2023

12 hours ago, Hushpuppy321 said:

Wow - I’m totally jealous of all the transportation progress in Raleigh/Wake County. Between the Complete 540, to the BRT Groundbreaking, things are looking up. By the end of 2028 the Outer Loop could be complete and Two (2) BRT Lines could be Operational (the East and South Lines). We here in Charlotte can’t seem to get anything going on the Mass Transit front anymore. Don’t even get me started on Charlottes Gateway Station compared with RUS.

From the Raleigh perspective Charlotte has light rail and Raleigh doesn't--and apparently that is the only means of transportation that matters.

December 20, 2023

The $1.3 billion in S-Line funding will almost all go to Wake County:

https://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/counties/wake-county/article282968553.html

Rated for 110 mph rail line from Raleigh Union Station to Wake Forest will be completely grade separated with 12 railroad crossing closed. Double and even triple tracking to accommodate some freight traffic. North Raleigh might get their own train station as Spring Forest Rd. Several roads in downtown Raleigh will be permanently closed but with pedestrian overpasses to compensate. Raleigh Union Station will get a second northernly facing train platform. NCDOT will try to see if they can use some of the funds to eliminate two major at-grade rail crossing in Cary.

Overall, $1.3 billion is not really a lot of money these days and is ultimately just enough to make improvements to a small section of the Raleigh-to-Richmond line.

Given that the previous NCDOT "Piedmont Improvement Program" almost all went to improve rail between Charlotte and Greensboro. It's nice to see some love going to the other end of the Piedmont.

October 14, 2023

A very skinny 16-story hotel maybe coming to downtown Raleigh in the Prince Hall Historic District. A 6 story hotel was supposed to be built next door but that was cancelled I'm not sure if this hotel project is related. Just a block away from the future 550-room Omni Hotel.

October 13, 2023

Another filing for a new 20-story tower in downtown Raleigh. 200 West Morgan Street, 279 apartments. Same block as the Campbell University Law School. Doesn't seem terrible unique in design but does add density and housing.

September 27, 2023

North Hills/Midtown is turning into a high density corridor west to east. I nearly forgot there's several towers under construction at the moment.

Below image is 1000 Social a 12-story office tower that is part of a $2 billion development project that will include several towers and behind that is a 17-story tower under construction that will be the first phase of the North Hills Innovation District. Basically North Hills is expanding east now.

September 20, 2023

South Raleigh at the moment. 5 cranes, left to right: Mira Apartments crane, 20-story 320 W. South Street apartment crane, Rockaway apartments crane, and the two on the far right are the two cranes for the two Weld 20-story apartment towers.

Crane 6 should be up soon, that one will be for the West End II apartment complex across the tracks from the Raleigh Union Station.

September 20, 2023

2 hours ago, CLT Development said:

Man this quote "The 27-story hotel will be about as tall as the Truist tower" shows how little the author knows about building heights. I would expect this hotel to be more than 100 feet shorter than Hannover Square.

The design of this hotel is subject to change, it's just an initial render of what the developer can do.

One city council member did express the need for height and build material quality so those comments will influence the design the hotel when that process gets started.

Given that the Raleigh Convention Center expansion timeline has been accelerated this hotel needs to be built ASAP.

September 19, 2023

550-room Omni Hotel and Resort has been proposed on Fayetteville Street. The process to negotiate with the developer has started.

Update: "Omni Hotels and Resorts plans to build a 550-room hotel featuring a rooftop pool, spa, and meeting space. It will be built on a parking lot across from the Martin Marietta Center for the Performing Arts. The 27-story hotel will be about as tall as the Truist tower. Raleigh city council selected the developer to build a new luxury hotel downtown to allow for bigger conventions."

September 19, 2023

Omni Hotel & Resort will be the hotel brand for the 500 room hotel project for the Raleigh Convention Center. Will likely be in the 25 to 30 story range though to be honest anything is better than an empty parking lot.

Here are some convention center hotel projects they have completed in the near past, expect this one to be similar:

Update:

"Omni Hotels and Resorts plans to build a 550-room hotel featuring a rooftop pool, spa, and meeting space. It will be built on a parking lot across from the Martin Marietta Center for the Performing Arts. The 27-story hotel will be about as tall as the Truist tower. Raleigh city council selected the developer to build a new luxury hotel downtown to allow for bigger conventions."

September 18, 2023

City of Raleigh has selected a developer to design and build a 500-room hotel on Fayetteville Street in front of the performance art center. The city will start the negotiation process soon. A budget will be authorized tomorrow.

September 16, 2023

On 9/15/2023 at 8:14 AM, CLT @ said:

Ironically just southeast of this image are two 20-story towers going up right now but technically not considered downtown.

“The Weld,” a $700 million mixed use project near Dix Park in Raleigh, had lined up financing in June and the cranes and up and working.

September 13, 2023

3 hours ago, SoundScan said:

Tourism is not enough, you need business travelers. Business travelers buy more expensive fares and large corps negotiate/commit to seat blocks on routes. RDU has a significant footprint of companies with operations in Europe.

This is correct. The route will have more business class seats as the one servicing Minneapolis. You'll also have to consider that Raleigh/Durham has one of the largest Indian communities on the East Coast and demand for routes with connections to India are in great demand.

Aircraft: A330-300

Seats: 255 total (42 Business, 28 Premium Economy, 185 Economy)

The Minneapolis flight will use the 787

28 in business class, 28 in premium economy, and 231 in economy class

September 12, 2023

On 9/4/2023 at 5:20 PM, Crucial_Infra said:

One advantage Charlotte has over Nashville for MLB potential is population within 100 mile radius. Last I checked, Charlotte had 7.3 million compared to Nashville’s 3.3 million. Raleigh, fwiw, has 5.6 million.

Nashville has one of the smallest 100 mile radius populations in the South. The only major cities with smaller populations are Jacksonville (3.2), New Orleans (~3) and Memphis (2.6).

Select southern cities 100 mile radius pop

Orlando 8,062,244

Atlanta 7,942,852

Dallas 7,720,460

Tampa 7,487,905

Charlotte 7,269,861

Houston 6,938,672

Miami 5,950,850

Raleigh 5,584,991

Louisville 5,289,221

Austin 5,012,963

San Antonio 4,173,352

Nashville 3,323,964

Jacksonville 3,169,401

New Orleans 2,979,683

Memphis 2,595,837

And here are my random notes on 150 mile radius population from 2020. Nashville fares better here but it’s still not great compared to its potential expansion competitors, though it can take solace in being just behind Houston and ahead of Miami (note: half of Miami and Houston’s radius population is fish)

Topographically speaking, Nashville metro is severely limited in 'room' to grow compared to Charlotte or Raleigh regions. However, Nashville is the most likely to attract a random billionaire to fund any MLB ambitions. Greed will ultimately win in sports.

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