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2 hours ago, mintscraft56 said:
Hmm true. Though I think 3-4 years is a bit long. Not complaining though at all. Its development we need and development we (Or most of us) want.
Where are you getting 3 to 4 years? Demo was started in late 2021. We are at 2 and a half years. This was always going to be a slow project and while it has missed the initial construction estimates, it's reasonable given the lot.
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10 hours ago, mintscraft56 said:
As I said 3 pages ago back in 2021 "At least its downtown development.....wish it were a little faster". Little did I know May of 24' they would still be building it lol.
To be fair, it is not easy to stage construction materials in a city. And you need easy access to materials to stay at a good pace.
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On 4/25/2024 at 4:23 AM, ONCE1stBlvd said:
https://www.kerrydougherty.com/allposts/2023/6/15/light-rail-idiotic-idea-in-2016-idiotic-idea-now
I posted this over in the Beach forum as well but she brought up Norfolk so much it only seems fitting to share here as well. This is actually directly from her site as opposed to the one I shared in the Beach forum, which is a repost.
You really gotta love the phrases she uses like "...they planned to build overpriced ant colonies crammed with condos and shoppes around the stops."
Isn't that what the interstates do too???? Isn't that what literally any street does? Does shorty really think we can sustain communities solely by building single family developments and shopping centers??? How does she think cities grow?
First time reading Kerry? She's the written voice of VB nimbys.
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4 hours ago, BFG said:
Yes. There’s at least one brewery over there, Afterglow, and I believe another one opened in the old Bold Mariner space. There’s also Chicken Salad Chick, Sanctuary tacos, and Biscuit Belly, although I’m not sure if the latter is open yet. All three are really good.
The former Bold Mariner space is now an EVMS building.
While this development has pretty standard suburban strip mall offerings, it has improved the curb appeal of this area in a major way and I really appreciate how loyal they stayed to the original renderings despite missing out on that bowling alley business.
Keep building/renovating between Hampton and Colley, and before you know it ODU and Ghent will feel like one community.
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23 hours ago, baobabs727 said:
Absolutely! I am doubtful that city govt will give its blessing on this one.
I agree bout it being a waste but it's hard to see the argument against it. This use is consistent with that side of Monticello.
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Went to District Apizza the other night. It was pretty good and they did a nice job with the space. Definitely worth a visit. And since parking is so bad in that area, it gave me an even better appreciation for how much that area has changed. From Granby to Colonial, those few blocks have been totally remade over the last 5 to 10 years with warehouse apartments and a lot of restaurants. It's great to see.
However, the parking in that area is only going to get worse with more apartments going up, more business going in and Norfolk only requiring 1 space per unit. There is a need for a public garage or two in that general area and they should get ahead of the issue before the property costs catch up to all that development-
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4 hours ago, BFG said:
Agreed. If you’re not building a new arena anytime soon, you need to do as much as you can with Scope. Add as many seats as possible, and more importantly a comfortable, modern experience where you don’t feel cramped. Don’t half-tail this project by putting lipstick on a pig.
I haven’t been to Chrysler Hall in years, so I can’t speak on that one. Is it really as outdated as Scope?
Chrysler has aged much better than the Scope. But with a renovation, they could improve concessions, ingress/egress, bathrooms and add some more high end amenities.
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21 hours ago, urbanlife said:
Damn, that's similar pricing for the apartment buildings I live in in Portland, Oregon. Granted this is a new building, but it feels like it is high for Norfolk....either that or rents are basically high everywhere.
It's priced competitively for Norfolk. And yes, rent is high everywhere.
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Apologies if this has been mentioned already but I don't remember seeing anything about it on here recently.
On the agenda for the March 28th Planning Commission meeting is the following under new business:
TWG PHASE A, LLC, Development Certificate for St. Paul’s Blocks 9, 10, 16You can view the agenda here:
https://norfolkcityva.iqm2.com/Citizens/FileOpen.aspx?Type=14&ID=2540&Inline=True -
This development was successful in keeping the original design and has come through in being a majorly positive beautification project. Still sucks we didnt get the bowling alley but this is a great thing for the area.
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17 hours ago, HRVA said:
This is a relatively newer group but they own something like 20 MiLB teams and I couldn’t find any stories about them relocating teams. I think this will be a positive change. Harbor Park is in need of an overhaul and the timing is right with lease negotiations and a well capitalized ownership group. They will also bring direct knowledge of what is working with other teams. Frankly, while the team itself is great and fully loaded with top tier prospects, the experience at Harbor Park has been lacking for awhile now.
They are renovating or building multiple stadiums currently. And they know how to promote. Hopefully they can fix the concession lines. Even when it’s not a packed crowd, you end up missing a bunch of baseball standing in line.
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The city of Norfolk has secured its first federal grant to help offset the cost of building a 20-plus acre park in the St. Paul’s neighborhood that will double as a flooding mitigation tool:
https://www.pilotonline.com/2023/10/02/large-park-part-of-norfolks-st-pauls-redevelopment-receives-federal-funding/Total cost of the project is $40 million. This grant is for $4mil and they have applied for a total of $35 mil in grants that would require up to a $25 mil match. The article also notes that no matter how the grants fall, they have budgeted for the entire cost.
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The Pilot has an article on this development. Late in the piece it notes that it will include an unannounced entertainment restaurant. Anyone want to guess which chain moves in? Personally, I feel like a Cinema Cafe would work well there especially with the unsure future of Regal at MacArthur.
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8 hours ago, BFG said:
Coming to 439 Granby St...
The design is a bit odd for that space, but you wouldn't be able to put much there anyway.
Hopefully this inspires others to do the same. Build up!
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22 hours ago, mintscraft56 said:
So, is this project getting back on its feet or are we thinking its gonna go downhill from here?
Anyone’s guess at this point. But I hope we can re-start the process, put it out for RFP and get a casino that can give us the high end casino we were promised without all these headaches. Norfolk is partly to blame for not standing up earlier but a lot of the decisions Head Waters has made just feels cheap and makes one think they don’t have the funds to make this happen, despite the billionaire in their corner.
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The phased approach was mapped out by Chip Filer to the Pamunkey/Headwaters. It’s good to see that the new city manager is being consistent in his messaging that this won’t be allowed.
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9 hours ago, varider said:
It can be crowded on weekends and when a cruise ship is in… it does well at organized events and such. maybe we will see some more regular activity when the apartments open up? All of these issues are IMO the result of ZERO growth rate in the city and in the region. For example, the railyard district is awesome and I’m excited for it, but if we were a growing city, that would have at least had a residential element and a more interesting tenant mix? and we likely could have lost the surface parking. If more people were moving here and just a generally more favorable view / more buzz , I don’t think we’d have these problems such as waterside being dead or every project failing or falling short of expectations. It’s an economic issue IMO why everything here tends to be dead
Im confused by your comment on the railyard district. The majority of development in that area has been turning old warehouses into apartments where there were none before. There are at least 6 apartment complexes that are a reuse that I can think of built over the last few years. Are you talking about the Railyard, a development in Lamberts Point?
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Get out of the deal, put it out for RFP and let's restart the process to do it right with a partner who can follow through.
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Norfolk beginning negotiations with Dillard's on a purchase of their space.
https://www.pilotonline.com/2023/07/14/norfolk-negotiating-purchase-of-dillards-in-downtown-macarthur-center/-
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Apparently Norfolk is considering opening up the process to other casino operators.
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A lot of positive developments going on in the Riverview portion of Granby Street. The Riverview Theater will be turned into an events space, LeGrand moved from North Colley to the former location of Crackers, Lo Mo Pizzeria takes over where Blanca Cafe was and Pittie Dog Grill fills the former Subway/Capn Crabby space.
https://www.pilotonline.com/2023/07/05/riverview-revival-new-development-in-norfolk-neighborhood-includes-former-theater/-
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2 hours ago, varider said:
https://www.virginiabusiness.com/article/headwaters-developer-scraps-temporary-casino-plans/
The plans for the casino that were submitted to the city fell short of Mayor Kenneth Cooper Alexander’s expectations. “Although it may be constructed in phases, I was not expecting them to turn [the plan] in phases,” Alexander said. The mayor added that he was concerned by the lack of concrete details in the plan, as well as a lack of communication from developers on the casino’s application status with the Virginia Lottery, the state regulatory body that must approve the casino’s operating license.
“We continue to ask them for the same information over and over again,” Alexander says. “I want all the details to accompany the pretty pictures. Submit the supporting documentation.”
Sounds like Kenny needs to work on communication inside city hall before calling others out:
"However, in a March letter sent by the city to the casino developers, the city requested only conceptual details for the future phases of development, while requesting details such as architectural renderings, building elevations and a site layout for the first phase, all of which were provided by the development team."-
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2 hours ago, varider said:
Well if we didn’t provide the $$ , someone else might have. Is it worth it to risk losing out on 600 office jobs just to save 1.5M from the development fund? We scrutinize everything around here. If there were out of state companies beating down the door to relocate here, I would maybe understand the argument, but not when we almost NEVER get good news about office jobs. I couldn’t think of a better use of $1.5M ($3M total) than to have 600 (307 new jobs to be exact) more people working in the vicinity of Town Center. That’s less than $10K per new job. I think it’s nice to reward ZIM for staying loyal and sticking with the decision to relocate from NYC.
So if the timeline is right, they were awarded the grant after they purchased the building. Given that, what real risk was there of them leaving the region for a different offer?
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Bayport Credit Union is on the agenda for the July 10 Architectural Review Board meeting. They are applying for some exterior renovations to the building at 2014 Granby Street, which was previously a Wells Fargo next to Taco Bell and near Doumars.
You can see more details here:
http://norfolkcityva.iqm2.com/Citizens/FileOpen.aspx?Type=1&ID=2340&Inline=True
1500 Monticello Ave
in Norfolk
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To be fair, it only closed down because Raising Canes bought out all of their franchisees and Aramark was their biggest franchise owner. The ODU location was franchised by Aramark. At the time it closed, ODU and Aramark had been discussing having them build a new location with a drive thru on Hampton. But COVID happened and Raising Canes went through with that plan to own all of their locations.