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49 minutes ago, chris holman said:

1963 to 2023

From barely even a handful of high-rises to about 30+. Meanwhile that intersection is basically the same. 

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18 hours ago, markhollin said:

The Tennessee Senate on Monday green lit a transportation plan backed by Gov. Bill Lee that would funnel more than $3 billion into infrastructure projects in the state.

If the plan is given final passage, each of the Tennessee Department of Transportation's four regions would receive $750 million to cover infrastructure issues.

Though some opponents of the plan have criticized the distribution by region, arguing the equal pots of money should be distributed on a per capita basis to account for higher populations and related congestion issues, the legislation received largely bipartisan votes through the committee process this year.

Senators voted 26-5 for the plan, with a mix of Republicans and Democrats opposed to the measure.

The bill institutes new electric vehicles fees to offset lost gas taxes, to be paid with vehicle registrations, that would start at $200 until 2027 and then rise to $274. The statute could adjust the fee to match inflation thereafter.

Lee's plan also calls for "public-private partnership" to establish toll lanes, or what Lee's administration calls "choice lanes," which would be express lanes that charge drivers usage fees. Sen. Becky Massey, R-Knoxville, argued the choice lanes are different than toll roads as a driver will have an option to pay for an express lane or drive on an existing lane for free.

"It is similar to TSA Pre-check or Disney Fast Pass where you can decide if you want to do it or not," Massey said. "Fees are never charged in a general purpose lanes and the number of free lanes are never reduced."

More at The Tennessean here:

https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/politics/2023/03/20/tennessee-senate-passes-governors-3-billion-transportation-plan/70029058007/

Yes, I can finally choose which lanes I want to be stuck in traffic! But with a bonus fee! 

Then the laughable amount of 750 million for each region to cover infrastructure upgrades. You would think the 3 billion would be distributed evenly by the demand of infrastructure upgrade is needed for each region.

The Nashville and Chattanooga regions are probably needing most of the demands, with Chattanooga having a major interstate leading up to Atlanta and the rest of the deep Southeastern region. Then Nashville's outdated infrastructure being behind by 20-30 years in relation to the region's growth.

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2 hours ago, chris holman said:

Church St 1955

Vintage Nashville kind of had a Midwest/East Coast vibe when it came to the older architecture. If you showed me this picture without me knowing that this was Nashville, I would have guessed Cleveland or something.  

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https://www.commercialcafe.com/blog/office-pipeline-report/

Office pipeline ranking for each city by 2023. Interesting that Nashville is almost on par with Houston, with Houston being near 4 times the size of the Nashville metro.  I'm not sure if this data is reflecting the entire MSA or just the urban areas, but regardless that's still a fairly impressive feat by Nashville.  Especially by reflecting the size of Harris County in comparison to Nashville's.

[Dickerson & Meridian : twelve 3 to 7 story residential complex; 1,150 units; internal garages; some retail; 14.4 acres; $300+ million cost]

14 hours ago, MLBrumby said:

Coincidentally, the Channel 17 city cam (L&C) is aimed at a portion of Dickerson rn.  Then I look at that perpetual bottleneck of I-24 and SMH.  It's Saturday morning, TDOT!!!! 

Blows my mind how that portion of I-24 splits into two lanes... freaking two lanes! 

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19 hours ago, BnaBreaker said:

Yeah, we have ZERO room to throw shade at ATL.  When they were our size in the 1970's they were already formulating a plan to build an extensive HEAVY rail system.  I mean say what you will about Atlanta, but they so far have been the only southern city to achieve that... AND they are in the process of building a complimentary light rail system to boot.  But our leaders are, apparently, perfectly happy to just let Nashvillians sit in traffic for the rest of their lives.  

That's the irony of it. Nashvillians want to claim that they don't want to end up being the next ATL, but the funny thing is that we are heading towards that route. A route that may possibly be worse than ATL 

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At least with ATL, they're somewhat trying. ATL has a mediocre, but functional transit system. With how Nashville is growing, the traffic may end up worst in the next decade or so. That is if you're comparing the traffic ratio to city size.

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5 hours ago, nashville born said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_rapid_transit_systems_by_ridership

According to these numbers, 3.7 billion people annually ride mass transit in only the top 15 busiest U.S. systems.  That's a lot of people.  That's a LOT of people.   And it's a LOT of revenue.   I've got to believe that Nashvillians who think mass transit might introduce an "undesirable" element could perhaps rethink their perceptions when presented with such.

Interestingly, even if not unexpectedly, the south has but two of the top 15:  Atlanta and Miami.

Come on, Nashville.  Yes, we're already way behind.  Every day we wait (waste) is just another day further behind.    I'll keep paraphrasing Henry Ford, if you need a machine, and you don't buy it, invariable you will have paid the price and still not have it.

For some reason, this song jumped in my head...you lug sixteen tons, whatta you get?  Another day older and deeper in debt.  Perhaps that's us relative to traffic issues...another day of growth and deeper in traffic debt...

Only if the Nashville Star was more convenient to use... The problem is that the hours are wonky and there's not enough stops to make it convenient. It'll be nice if the Nashville Star connected directly to BNA.

[Davidson West: Bellevue, Bordeaux, Green Hills, MetroCenter, Nations, N Nashville]

White Bridge Road needs to be widened more than anything. The traffic there is terrible. But with anything here, the roads are always the last things to be upgraded.

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Another tidbit, there's no bridges that connects from East Nashville to Briley. The area east of the Cumberland River is in a need of a few connecting points. The only access points from East Nashville to Briley is the Gallatin Pike S interchange.   The Eastern part of Nashville in general has terrible connecting points with Wilson County, excluding I40 and Lebanon Pike. 

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1 hour ago, markhollin said:

Some more interchange plans.

I-65/Wedgwood Ave:

I-24/Thompson Lane/Briley Parkway:

I-40 west inner belt exit/entrance ramps:

I-40 west inner belt has so many unnecessary ramps and exits. It's crazy how it took tdot this long to notice.  In comparison to other cities, it's mindboggling how this design was approved in the first place.  Tdot should really convert that area into a tunnel with some kind of park/recreational area on top like the one in Atlanta. I think it's called the Lenox Road overpass or something.  

[Surrounding Counties - Cheatham, Dickson, Montgomery, Rutherford, Sumner, Wilson, Williamson, Maury, etc.]

5 hours ago, markhollin said:

Sumner County: White Shops will be a 20 acre shopping center at Hwy. 76 and Raymond Hirsch Parkway featuring a 48,000 sq. ft. grocery store that might be a Publix, as well as other retail slots. Sembler company is the developer.

More at The Tennessean here:

https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/local/sumner/2022/11/18/white-house-approves-retail-center-with-new-grocery-store-to-anchor/69654404007/

 

 

Hopefully, the Northern suburbs gets more developed. The amenities up there are severely lacking. 

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My trip to Houston. Wow I never noticed how rugged Northwest/west of Nashville is. 

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2 hours ago, Luvemtall said:

Bring it on!! Wilson county is ready for some ! 
as I mentioned before , there’s a office park planned for the 350 acres at the I-40 /I-840 interchange in Lebanon.  It’s a TVA site and Brookside properties is the developers 

Wilson Co. is a bit overdue. The county is mostly flat, great proximity to Nashville, sort of has transit (music city star), and has access to both Percy priest and the Cumberland river. Their growth should have bolstered a long time ago. 

[Nashville International Airport PHOTOS (BNA), Airlines and Flights General discussion]

On 9/22/2022 at 8:24 AM, markhollin said:

Southwest Airlines' CEO Bob Jordan is bullish on the company's future in Nashville — and if you're curious, he prefers an aisle seat.

With around 800 employees already in Nashville, Jordan told the Business Journal that Southwest is looking at a future flight attendant and pilot base, a city where crew and aircrafts are stationed, in Nashville — though there are no immediate plans.

“A lot of that depends on where you want to originate flights, where you want to have aircraft overnight, but I’ll just tell you we are looking at that and there is a possibility that Nashville becomes a base,” Jordan said. “I don’t see that immediately. … [J]ob one is get the network restored and see how everything is performing.”

Jordan added that the idea of at least a satellite base in Nashville, which is a smaller base, is on Southwest’s radar. 

Out of Southwest’s 121 destinations, Nashville ranks No. 8 in terms of its busiest airports, seeing more flights through Music City than pre-pandemic.

Southwest is the largest airline serving Nashville International Airport, according to Business Journal research, with more than 6 million passengers flying through BNA between June 2020 and June 2021.

“We are close to gate constraint right now [at Nashville International Airport]. We are at 16 gates and will get the four new gates at the end of next year, and that will help a ton,” Jordan said. “We are going to grow here. … Nashville is a huge focus city for us; the flights we put here are successful.”

The airport's recently announced $1.4 billion New Horizon plan intends to add even more Southwest gates.

More at NBJ here:

https://www.bizjournals.com/nashville/news/2022/09/21/southwest-airlines-ceo-base-nashville-flights.html

Nashville should eventually be an operating base for Southwest. I'll give it about 5-10 more years. Indirectly, Southwest is already kind of an hub. 

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On 10/27/2022 at 2:17 PM, Sean blackdog said:

Today this morning from Sky5. 

 

 

 

 

Wow, the Alcove building really makes the Skyline pop. The skyline's also looking really dense for a metro population of sub 2 mil. Nashville is about to one of the most densest cities within the 2-3 million population mark.

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Music Genre Preference in Each U.S. State

Interesting that TN isn't country. Even more surprising is that country is popular in PA, VA, WI, and OH.

 

 

 

 

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I just got back from a trip in Las Vegas and it's crazy how superior their infrastructure is compared to ours. Granted, LV is denser but both cities are still around the 2-2.5 mil population range and LV does a better job at handling infrastructure.  LV does happen to have significant tourism compared to Nashville, so that may also be another aspect to take in. The loops and beltlines are well built with accommodating lanes. There was barely any stand still traffic. Most of the time the traffic was slow moving not like in Nashville. Even the city roads were well built. The city roads mostly accommodated 3 lanes, even 3 turning lanes. While a lot of Nashville's inner city roads are still single lane. LV does have transit, but I wouldn't really consider it usable outside of the strip. 

Nashville needs to take note. It'll be nice if Nashville at least has some kind of infrastructure connecting the airport to downtown. 

 

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1 hour ago, Sean blackdog said:

Today this early morning from Sky5. 

 

The Alcove really sticks out.

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10 hours ago, glamdring269 said:

Had a discussion with some friends over the weekend regarding work from home and impact on Nashville (and surrounding area) traffic. Does anyone have any data on % of folks in the metro area who are still working from home for the most part? It wouldn't surprise me if that is still a significant %. I know of at least 2 close friends who used to commute from Murfreesboro to Nashville every day who are still working from the house. We had a morning flight recently and I had forgotten how bad traffic is going into Nashville and it made me wonder just how terrible of a shock it might be if everyone suddenly had to return to office at any point in the future.  Let's assume this happens on March 1st, 2023. This would represent ~3 years of population growth that might not have added commute strain on the network due to work from home. How bad do you think it would be if all of this growth was suddenly represented on the roads in a morning commute? And do you think it would be impactful enough that it might help push forward some of these transit proposals more rapidly?

I'm pretty sure the traffic volume is still fairly high. I did notice some "cool" days and some "hot" days. I'm guessing it's from the incoming tourist traffic and work commuters that alternates their WFH/Office schedules. I have a few friends that works an alternate work schedule where some days they go in and some days they work from home. 

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16 hours ago, titanhog said:

Ooooooooohhhh.  I’m loving the look of the YMCA tower!  If he’ll light the “crown zig zag” at night…wow!!

 

Finally! something more unique than a flat roof! I like the new concept. It's still a square, but with squiggly lines! 

[1010 Church Street (60 story/750', 500 unit residential tower, 7 story/60,000 sq. ft. YMCA addition), $350 million]

12 hours ago, natethegreat said:

It’s not 1980, people aren’t building office towers with ‘crowns’

I'm not against the new buildings that are currently or will be under construction, they look cool and I like the designs. I wouldn't say crowns/spires are out of style either, but it'll be nice to have a little of a mixture.  Nonetheless, I still do like the designs, I'm just being an architecture snob .

[1010 Church Street (60 story/750', 500 unit residential tower, 7 story/60,000 sq. ft. YMCA addition), $350 million]

It seems like Nashville is scared of constructing crowns on top of high-rises/skyscrapers... excluding the one and probably only batman building. 

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Interesting.... So what's next? Maybe a transit system or will the land be used for something else?

[Surrounding Counties - Cheatham, Dickson, Montgomery, Rutherford, Sumner, Wilson, Williamson, Maury, etc.]

https://fox17.com/amp/news/local/usta-looking-to-invest-millions-of-dollars-in-middle-tennessee-spring-hill-crossings-williamson-county-southstar-tennis-court-complex-mixed-use-development-preservation

SouthStar, the developer behind most of the recent Cool Springs development along Carothers Parkway and McEwen, is working with the United States Tennis Association on a mixed use development in Spring Hill adjacent to the existing Crossings retail development.

This would host the southeastern Regional Headquarters for the USTA and have the potential to host regional and national championships. This will also include a 120,000 SF fitness center and some residential/retail/office development.

This development will be located on the Maury side of Spring Hill.