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  1. 16 hours ago, East Side Urbanite said:

    Maybe I haven't seen on this board or in media reports, but two things:

    1. The smallest (in terms of MSA populations) U.S. city with four of the big five (NFL, MLB, NBA, MLS and NHL) is Denver with about 3 million people. The Nashville MSA is 2 million and we have three of the big five. Do we have the population so support a fourth? Relatively speaking, no city in U.S. history has  ever had such a disproportionate number of franchises related to its overall population. Is Nashville "that special" so as to be the exception that can successfully be the first do do so? I don't think so.

    2. And related to the first question: If we got MLB, could that hurt corporate support for all four? There are only so many corporate dollars to go around to three pro franchises, much less four.

    The question is not do we want MLB? I like baseball (big Cubs fan) and would like to have a franchise in the.  But at this point in our city's evolution? I'm not so sure. Seems potentially harmful.

     

     

    Detroit was the closest, which was able to support the NBA, NFL, NHL and MLB  when its MSA had less than 3 million people.

    That said, unlike Nashville, Detroit was home to 3 of the largest and fastest growing corporations in the world at the time too. A good corporate presence is also critical for sponsorship purposes and having a fan base with enough disposable income to support so many teams.

    With that being said, an argument could be made that Charlotte would be a more likely candidate for a MLB team than Nashville.

  2. On 8/14/2019 at 7:54 PM, titanhog said:

    ^^I really wish at least one of those hotels in that cluster would have been significantly taller than the other.  When you combine these 3 hotel structures with the Omni across the street...it all kinda blends together as one large "lump" of building.  Not saying that's a bad thing...just hard to differentiate each building from a distance.

    A high rise on the opposite corner of 5th Avenue should help to balance things out.

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  3. 6 hours ago, jmtunafish said:

    Accor has a bunch of hotels in the Nashville area.  Motel 6 and Red Roof Inn are Accor hotels.

    Accor's luxury brands are Fairmont, Raffles, Rixos, and Sofitel.  Of those, the only ones in the US are Fairmont (Austin, Berkeley, Boston, Chicago, Dallas, Los Angeles, Maui, NYC, Pittsburgh, San Diego, San Francisco, San Jose, Santa Monica, Scottsdale, Seattle, Sonoma, Telluride, and Washington) and Sofitel (Beverly Hills, Chicago, NYC, Philadelphia, Washington).  Getting either a Fairmont or Sofitel would be quite a coup for Nashville. 

    Motel 6 and Red Roof Inn *USED* to be Accor hotels.

    Red Roof Inn was sold to Citigroup in 2007 and Motel 6 was sold to The Blackstone Group in 2012.

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  4. On 5/31/2019 at 9:43 PM, OnePointEast said:

    Wow. Birmingham looks amazing. I might make a move down there, someday. It looks very cozy, yet large enough for a city life. 

    Birmingham is definitely a sleeper. It's only a matter of time before it takes off IMO.

    Its main drawback now is that it lacks an "IT" factor. It's  ot a tourist destination like Nashville and it's not a corporate hub like Charlotte or Atlanta.

    On 6/10/2019 at 9:01 PM, OnePointEast said:

    I read somewhere that restaurant service is unmatched in both the United States and Mexico (including hotels and resorts), in terms of hospitality. I can say the times I've been to Puerto Vallarta, everything was so awesome. Everything felt very personable.

     

    Also, I thought Californians were known to be rude. I've never been there but it's what I've heard of my friends who live in Nashville and have visited SoCal.

    I've only been to LA, but the people there are surprisngly courteous for it to be such a big, crowded city. 

    Not sure what it vouod be (maybe the weather?).

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  5. 33 minutes ago, Andy20 said:

    https://www.bizjournals.com/nashville/news/2019/04/02/giant-investor-luxury-1-hotel-revealed-for-sobro.html

    Looks like smaller tower is no longer a Curio. It will be a 1 hotel. Other 1 hotel locations are New York City, South Beach, West Hollywood, and coming soon in Hawaii. Seems to be an environmental focused brand. 

    https://www.1hotels.com/

    Interesting.

  6. 48 minutes ago, titanhog said:

    But it's a weird "reverb" type thing.  It's not as simple as Nashville is 100% what drives growth in the suburbs.   The suburbs also help drive growth in Nashville, especially considering that more people are moving into the suburbs than are moving into Nashville / Davidson County...and probably less than 5% of newcomers are actually moving into downtown.  These people who are deciding to move here for work are often taking a job in Nashville...but then buying a home in the suburbs.  And...of course, industries are also growing in the suburbs.

    IMO...we actually have to stop just looking at the suburbs (which now are many considered "urban") as something different than Nashville.  It's really ALL Nashville.  The city limits / county lines really don't mean a whole lot.

    The bolded is what I'm getting at.

    Employers creating these jobs settled on Nashville because of Nashville's airport, Nashville's convention center, Nashville's cultural amenities, Nashville's university (Vanderbilt), etc. And the people who take on these jobs do so because Nashville offers all of the aforementioned amenities.

    They don't move to Lebanon or any other suburb because there's anything special about them, but because they're in close proximity to everything they need/desire in Nashville.

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  7. 18 hours ago, titanhog said:

    I’ve always wondered about sprawl.  I can understand sprawl in the sense of a large city that keeps expanding outwards into the rural areas.  But...I’m not exactly sure what to think about a city surrounded by other cities and towns (albeit much smaller)...and they all grow at the same time until they become one huge area.

    In other words...this isn’t just a case of Nashville spreading outward.  It’s a case of all of these little cities growing.  Of course, I’m sure that’s what is considered sprawl in today’s age...but it still seems a little different than one large city just growing outside of its city limits.

    Here's one way to look at it:

    This development would *NOT be happening if Lebanon wasn't so closely tied to Nashville's socio-economic sphere of influence.

    Much of the growth there comes from people who work/play in Nashville and desire affordable housing/decent school within a reasonable commuting distance/time.

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  8. 8 hours ago, markhollin said:

    Oracle plans on opening a Nashville office that will employ up to 3,000 people and seeking office space of 800,000 square feet.  The location would most likely be somewhere in the central core (CBD, SoBro, Midtown or River North all seem to be options).  Glory be!   More forthcoming.

    The jobs will primarily be inside sales, marketing, and sales support teams.

    The article posits that they could take up more of the other space in Nashville Yards, or some in Gulch Union, or Broadwest.  Of course, River North could be an option, as well as One KVB, Highland Properties where the Tennessean used to be located, etc.  Let the speculating begin!

    More at NBJ here:

    https://www.bizjournals.com/nashville/news/2019/03/01/report-oracle-scouting-nashville-for-massive-local.html?iana=hpmvp_nsh_news_headline

    More behind the Nashville Post here:

    https://www.nashvillepost.com/business/technology/article/21049285/tech-titan-plans-massive-local-presence

    Well damn!

    Nashville is on fire!

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