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March 28

Well, it finally seems to be happening: the first piece of Hunter's Auto Wrecker to be rezoned/developed: https://www.charlottenc.gov/Growth-and-Development/Planning-and-Development/Rezoning/2024/2024-026

21 townhomes at the corner of N. Davidson and E. 15th.

This is only 0.3 acres, a small piece of Hunter's property. Curious to see what will happen to the rest of it.

January 21

On 12/21/2023 at 7:04 PM, CLT Development said:

Townhouses (presumably rental) have been submitted thus far for the Southeastern portion on the other side of N. Davidson. Not sure why it hasn't closed yet.

How do you look this information up or see the site details? Is it public?

December 21, 2023

On 5/25/2023 at 12:46 PM, CLT Development said:

It is under contract to Urban Atlantic, the deal length would depend on the due diligence period, which I would imagine could be lengthy considering possible environmental concerns around a 6 acre open junk yard being developed for affordable and market rate residential.

Circling back on this again - does anyone have updates on the status of Hunter's Auto Wrecker? It's shown "under contract" for almost a full year now but haven't heard anything in the news.

May 25, 2023

On 3/19/2023 at 4:45 PM, KJHburg said:

It is under contract and think sold to apartment developer heard about this on the tour this Saturday in passing.

Just circling back to this. It's been two months now and no news so I'm curious if this didn't happen.

How long do these deals usually take to become public?

March 22, 2023

On 3/19/2023 at 4:45 PM, KJHburg said:

It is under contract and think sold to apartment developer heard about this on the tour this Saturday in passing.

That's huge. I'm surprised it hasn't been picked up in the news yet.

March 19, 2023

I drove by Hunter’s Auto Wrecker yard last week in Optimist Park and saw on the for sale sign that it was under contract.

Is there any news on this? I know it’s been on the market for a while, so I wasn’t sure if the “under contract” is still accurate.

August 10, 2022

Put your finger on Trade & Tryon and draw a 1 - 1.5 mile circle out from that center.

That takes you to Optimist Hall, Wesley Heights, Atherton Mill, and Presbyterian Medical Center in all four directions.

This entire circle will continue becoming more expensive as it matures into a dense, multimodal urban environment.

Parking uptown already costs $20 so there really shouldn't be an expectation of free parking elsewhere.

If you want to drive everywhere, go live in the suburbs. Otherwise, live near where you work, eat, and play.

June 19, 2022

Anybody know what's going on with the materials stacked up in the empty lot behind Edgeline Flats apartments? Corner of N Davidson St and E 16th St.

November 12, 2021

13 hours ago, SgtCampsalot said:

So... Two years later, I was wrong about Optimist Hall. It is a blight upon the neighborhood in a "wealthy blight" kind of way.

Just a sinkhole of excessive crowds, commercialism, and nothing meaningful. A waste of a beautiful building. I live a stones throw from it (just enough to not live around the crowds) but every time I try to get food from there I have a panic attack.

Reminds me of similar places I went to in Boston and Atlanta years ago. It feels like there's no purpose to go there.

I applaud you for at least giving a controversial opinion even though I strongly disagree with your sentiments.

I'm curious what you would have preferred to have done with this mill? There are financial realities here and whatever is done needs to be able to sustain itself. A food hall that we can walk around in and enjoy is infinitely better than what's been done with everything else, namely apartment buildings.

Alpha Mill (Optimist Park), Louise Mill (Belmont), Highland Park Mill #3 (NoDa), Mecklenburg Cotton Mill (NoDa) are all apartments. Johnston Mill (NoDa) is under construction to be made into apartments.

The Chadbourn Mill (Optimist Park) was turned into an office building. The property is still being developed and looks like a mix of office, retail, and apartments.

Every time I drive by Optimist Hall I'm so thankful it didn't go the route of the other mills in the area.

June 17, 2020

1 hour ago, kermit said:

^ I really hope White Point and the city put in the necessary time and effort/money to make the walk from Parkwood station less crappy. Part of that is sidewalk width (and trimming bushes) but the more important part is calming/dieting Parkwood I think, that stretch is a racetrack.

If I’m not mistaken the city is planning to redesign that whole street with a center median and wider sidewalks

https://charlottenc.gov/Projects/Pages/ParkwoodPlazaStudy.aspx

March 24, 2020

In case anyone is interested, here's the rezoning petition for the acreage across the rail from Optimist Hall. https://charlottenc.gov/planning/Rezoning/RezoningPetitions/2020Petitions/Pages/2020-034.aspx

I don't see the one for the warehouse yet.

September 13, 2019

1 hour ago, carolinaboy said:

No municipality or county should be using Google street data to dispatch 9-1-1 calls. I do this for a living and have never known that to happen. Imagery? Yes. Authoritative street or address data? No.

Google maps (and similar) is for public consumption. Some companies use it for routing/delivery, etc. but Charlotte/Mecklenburg PSAP should be using in-house data that's not editable by the public at large.

The person with the city said that the county's GIS data was wrong. I assume Google Maps has a live connection from city/county governments around the country into their GIS data, so whenever a street name change occurs they get it instantly.

September 12, 2019

4 hours ago, tarhoosier said:

When did Seigle Avenue become Brooklyn?

Funny story. After I read your comment I was shocked because I loved Seigle. In a town with seemingly no Jewish presence I always liked to see Seigle, a common Jewish surname.

I confirmed that Google changed the name. So I called the city and got a hold of the person responsible for street name changes. Turns out Pulte named one of their internal streets Brooklyn and it got messed up in their system.

BIG snafu. Potentially confusing to emergency services to say the least. They’re fixing it!

July 8, 2019

5 hours ago, markeckert said:

Hey. It was supposed to open in June. They were a week away from soft opening, all staff was hired / trained - and then the developer (at random) decided he wanted to wait a month to open mid July so they could wait for a few more shops to be built out. I heard this directly from the owner of Undercurrent Coffee who will have a shop there. It SHOULD be open later this month.

I walked by last night -- see below for progress photos.

June 19, 2019

Drove by Optimist Hall and saw around back that they were painting the brick a tan/sand color...

Is that the way everything is going to look? The early renderings showed the building as a whitish color. And the latest renderings on their website show unpainted brick.

Not sure what this stucco color is. I don't like it.

May 10, 2019

If anyone is interested in the progress of the food hall portion of Optimist Hall....

November 7, 2018

On 11/6/2018 at 2:42 PM, SgtCampsalot said:

It looks like Tompkins Hall will be called Optimist Hall.

Hmm I wonder why the rebranding. Too much baggage tied to D.A. Tompkins?

Tompkins was outspoken against public education, child labor legislation, and wage/hour regulation. But I would imagine that's par for the course for any southern industrialist of the time.

October 3, 2018

On 9/7/2018 at 4:56 PM, KJHburg said:

Met a Duke employee at Marine Week who is moving to the new Tompkins Mills office. They work in digital applications. The move in date is the weekend after Thanksgiving was supposed to be in August. They said 350 or so workers will be there and they expect to the be the only tenant until the food hall tenants open early next year. They also knew all about the new office tower and said When not if.

Please elaborate! What is this about a new office tower? I haven't heard these rumors. Where would it be located?

August 15, 2018

23 hours ago, dubone said:

Garages are not ideal for an urban setting but especially in a transitioning neighborhoods where people are not confident in the safety, and appealing to buyers that might be coming back in from the suburbs, They seem to be considered necessary elements of these townhouses that are coming in Optimist Park in this wave.

Cars aren't ideal for urban settings, but everybody in Charlotte has one so we have to put them somewhere. Aesthetically, I would rather have cars hidden within garages than to have a car lot behind or in front of the townhomes.

I'm not a developer but I would imagine these choices also have to do with the constraints of the site and trying to maximize the value of the property. The 1110 N Alexander site is long and narrow, so the only way to get 4 townhomes in there is to go vertical. Having an attached garage is a nice amenity that likely pushes up the sales price.

August 12, 2018

Two updates in the neighborhood:

1121 N Myers - This house next to the Peridoe townhomes put a FSBO sign up (see attached). 4 rental units inside that are being renovated, but owner is also willing to sell. I think he mentioned in the $600k range.
1110 N Alexander - Right behind that house is this little-known townhome project: https://www.1110nalexander.com/. They just broke ground and are putting in the slab now.

July 23, 2018

The townhomes on Seigle now have a website and fancy promotional video.

www.cityscapetowns.com

July 17, 2018

6 hours ago, SgtCampsalot said:

Pics #1-3:

New townhomes breaking ground at Harrill/ Van Every/ Seigle. They will have great views of the skyline. Thankfully they don't own that corner, so that cool old brick retaining wall and staircase will remain for now.

Pics #4-5:

Right across Seigle from the townhomes: these two awesome bunker buildings' lots are for sale.

Who wants to wager whether a new buyer will reno the structures (like the buildings at Harrill/Belmont), or razed for more townhomes?

Are these the townhomes being built next to the train tracks? I'm baffled at how this is going to be constructed in a way so that the homeowners don't feel or hear loud rumblings, vibrations, or train whistles constantly.

Trains use those tracks literally every day, multiple times a day. And they often blow their whistle because there's a train crossing at Davidson and also one at Louise. This townhome project is directly in between those crossings, so I wouldn't be surprised if the trains blow their whistle right next to them.

I think it's manipulative and even unethical for a developer to build townhomes right there. I'm sure the developers pat themselves on the back saying "the buyer knows what they're getting" but I can guarantee you right now someone will buy one of those townhomes not realizing the heavy train volume (and vibrations, and whistles) along those tracks.

September 2, 2017

On 9/1/2017 at 2:05 PM, NCMike1990 said:

Clear Sky has updates on the Laurel Street residential project.

I recognize that from somewhere...

August 3, 2017

4 hours ago, Jayvee said:

You beat me in posting my own scoop hahaha

15 minutes ago, Jayvee said:

Ah, somebody got a scoop when there weren't supposed to?

August 3, 2017

2 hours ago, Crown said:

Kind of surprised at the way this information was released. Regardless, this is a huge validator for that area in terms of office/creative office. Look for more activity to pick up for adjacent mill projects now that this one has it's anchor.

What do you mean about the way it was released?

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