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1 hour ago, thenewkage95 said:
It’s a weird side-effect of Charlotte not being a planned city. 50 years ago, Charlotte was just another small town that hardly anyone outside of the state even knew existed. My mom moved here in 1985 from Tennessee but had never even heard of Charlotte (she fell in love and is still here) Raleigh was more of the master planned city. Winston-Salem and even Greensboro were projected to blow up in the early 20th century. No one ever expected Charlotte to blow past the rest of them. I just wish the investment in education would have occurred prior to 1946. That way we could have an established and reputable institution of higher education (and maybe a really good school football team???)
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2 hours ago, SouthEndCLT811 said:
teams that launched with a good infrastructure have fared far better right out of the gate (Atlanta, LAFC) than those still finalizing plans to build up their operations on the fly (Cincy, Minnesota, Orlando) while also fielding an expansion team.
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18 hours ago, MACyr said:LOL. With "just a GED"?
17 hours ago, MACyr said:Regarding my resume, you and JBS have implied with your comments that I am being a snob. Probably more think it. Maybe I am misinterpreting your replies.
You are not misinterpreting my reply. I care less who says something than the value of what is said. Frankly, few of us know as much as the city planners, developers, politicians and architects that we criticize every day here. That's the beauty of this forum. It's democratic and egalitarian.
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2 hours ago, elrodvt said:
As I've said before and know many if not most here disagree or are even offended (sorry) ;-( .. ...
My decision as a CEO would be to avoid the south east altogether. Less educated work force along with lots of social & political time bombs. Unless you need the union busting (a whole nother topic!) or get a lot larger bribe than anywhere else why bother? Now we all know there are things that are located to geographic advantage and thus have no choice and in that case you just make the best pick you can. That is not the case with knowledge workers however. Said another way, high paying jobs. Now of course there will be plenty of outliers with companies run in a very conservative manner like Wall Mart but they're the minority and table scraps if you will.
Contradicting this viewpoint is all the banks here and their resultant co-located fintech businesses. What is the history of all the banks here? Was there a huge incentive at the time or did they need HQ in the region for some reason or ... Curious.
I am certainly not offended but I think you are ignoring a lot of obvious advantages to locating in the Southeast. Corporate tax rates are much lower in the South. Cost of living is lower. Worker's Comp (my business) is exponentially lower compared to, say, California (literally a fifth of the cost in most instances). Cheaper land and building costs. Lower rents. As mentioned, far less union. All right to work states. Moderate climate. Less regulation. And, the Southeast has some great schools (Duke, Vanderbilt, Virginia, Georgia Tech, UNC, Wake Forest to name a few). If, like me, they happen to view the SE as a great place to live, that's gravy. I think the question shouldn't be why would they locate in the SE...I would ask why wouldn't they? Compared to the Northeast, the Midwest and the West, I think the SE is a reasonable choice for most businesses. I lived in Philly and San Diego for roughly 18 years each. I choose to live here as the best overall place based on cost and quality of life. I think a lot of people feel similarly.
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2 minutes ago, krazeeboi said:
Also, at this early stage in the game, do you actually think there's enough retail to go around at both the street level and above the street? And do you think retailers, if given the option of where they would prefer to locate, would actually prefer being above the street instead of along the street?
My argument has never really been about retail in the tunnels (I've only briefly mentioned that in a single post of many on tunnels and bridges). I'm more focused on the tunnels themselves as a means to move people to street level retail.
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Personally, I wish Atherton Mills went to the top with the brick. It looks fantastic in person.
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19 minutes ago, asthasr said:
This is the only point on which you and I have a disconnect, I think. Fundamentally I think that the bridges do have an impact. Not necessarily on volume of pedestrians directly; after all, these bridges and tunnels are mostly pretty low-use because they're not visible. Instead, I view it as opportunity cost. When we allow a developer to build a bridge, that's acknowledging "this street is unpleasant to cross, but we're not going to fix it." With these massive development projects, to me it seems like it'd make much more sense to say: "No, guys, look. You are completely reconfiguring everything about this space. You control the pedestrian environment. Make it safe and easy for people to cross the street from the garage to the office so that a pedestrian bridge isn't needed." This won't just take the people who would walk across the bridge and put them on the street, 1:1, but will instead make it more likely that people in general use the space--people who aren't just parking in the garage. If the developer puts in some street trees, a pedestrian crossing island, brick pavement, good signals, maybe a corner cafe, then people can traverse the space easily and it becomes a place where people might want to be. If they put in a pedestrian bridge then the people who park in the garage can cross easily.
Those are very compelling arguments. I'm still inclined to believe you could do both but I'll admit you have me reconsidering my position.
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9 hours ago, elrodvt said:
Don't take my downvotes personally but you guys are so wrong.
We need to have the streets busy with people not cars. Putting retail in tunnels is nuts until there is no space on the streets. We're talking about a city with virtually NO retail! It's friggin dead compared to many cities of 50k or so. That's ridiculous and a pox on our leaders. I really don't think most of you have ever lived in the uptown area which clouds your judgement. In 5 years I've seen almost no progress. Yeah you can get all excited over office towers but for a resident..... Whatever....
Personally I've had enough. Might as well live in the darn burbs.
I never take downvotes personally if they are accompanied by a well-reasoned position (as yours was). Regarding your position, I'm not against anything you want, I just believe that having other pedestrian options isn't as damaging as some claim. I've worked Uptown for ~15 years and spend 10 hours a day here. I come on the weekends. I eat here. I exercise here. I want it better also. If today we imploded the Overstreet Mall and all pedestrian tunnels, the city would not be even a little more vibrant. Fix the streets and add the retail. That's what will add vibrancy.
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Both right and both well articulated.
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20 minutes ago, SgtCampsalot said:
I guess we're just waiting on how Market 42/The Ellis goes to see whether NWR moves forward with this?
And there appear to be significant concerns on the economy now also. Could be the boom is finally ending. On the other hand, employment remains VERY strong and higher interest rates are killing home sales (making apartments a good bet). I know absolutely nothing but I still think NWR starts construction in the next 12 months. There is some momentum on this side of Uptown (streetcar, Gateway station, police department, etc) and it could be they are simply looking to wrap projects on Stonewall and Providence before they start another. They haven't been know in recent years for talking and not acting. That said, others appear to be more connected (though I heard similar doubts about Lennar...).
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1 hour ago, asthasr said:
When we talk about "increasing vehicular mobility" versus "improving the pedestrian experience," it must be understood in this context: we have a tiny commercial district which is so pedestrian unfriendly that people are already unwilling to walk through it. Within this space we should be calming traffic, making cars less attractive, making walking more attractive, and so on. Gluing brick to the outside of massive parking garages and putting in expensive pedestrian bridges is not the way to improve this situation.
I actually agree with almost all of this. I'm for improving the pedestrian experience, calming traffic, eliminating lanes, adding bike lanes, closing streets to cars altogether. I simply have no objections to giving people the option of accessing buildings above street level also. I don't think they are mutually exclusive. I don't understand why pedestrians and retail 20 feet above the street is damaging to street level design. Fix the streets, add the retail, let people decide how they will access them.
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I remain prochoice on pedestrian bridges and tunnels. I'm all for smart urban design but think people should have the option of staying off the street (for safety, comfort and convenience) if developers are willing to give them the choice. Those that want to be on the street will be there. Making the streets safer and more attractive to pedestrians is the way to address this (as opposed to abolishing tunnels). Just my opinion though. I only have a GED...
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Just now, Dale said:
Oh, stop pretending that you prize the integrity of your chosen candidate and that you’re keenly attuned to their foibles and inconsistencies.
Point out a single post where I ever supported a particular candidate or party. I voted for McCready (first D ever) simply to limit Trump's power but never said anything positive about him. I have no chosen candidate(s). You are blinded by partisanship, hatred, negativity and unhappiness. I'll spare myself and the rest of the board any further interactions with you. I hope you get help.
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41 minutes ago, Dale said:
Wasn’t John Oliver who said “Do it!” on learning that Trump was going to run.
shaden ...
So it's all about you vs. "them"? It's all about schadenfreude. No response to Trump's specific behavior and no concern for your fellow Americans. Got it.
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22 minutes ago, Dale said:
I don’t vote, because Golden Rule. I do think the GOP is ‘less bad’ than the Democrats. And 2016 reminded me that shaden is the best freude.
Hey, I don’t pretend to be a model Christian.
https://slate.com/culture/2018/11/john-oliver-last-week-tonight-trump-authoritarianism.html
Worth watching in my opinion...
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32 minutes ago, Dale said:
Each party has it’s fair share of “Obama gone buy me gas” types, but voters are typically more cynical than that. For many, perhaps most, Trump was and is an opportunity to beat back the Democrats. And probably the only thing keeping Democrat’s in the game is Trump’s beating Democrats and then rubbing their noses in it.
I'm not talking about either party or people generally. I'm talking about people specifically who support Trump. People who claim to love the military but have no apparent problem when he criticizes and falsely accuses the Navy Seal who was in charge of the mission that killed bin Laden. Who have no issue when he diminished McCain's time as a POW. Who ignored when he went after Gold Star families (who lost their children in combat defending our country). Who accepted a guy's Purple Heart (admittedly given to him) despite avoiding service himself with bone spurs. This is just one issue. How do people support this obviously evil and incompetent man?
I'm talking specifically to you Dale. Do you support this guy?
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17 hours ago, Dale said:
Yeah, especially the “Trump is a f***ing Nazi!” part and “His followers are sheep!” we get breakfast, lunch and dinner.
Watch the Trump interview on Fox News yesterday. If you don't conclude that he's a moron and completely unfit for office, I'll be surprised (unless you think raking national forests is plausible). Trump is not Hitler and his followers are not Nazis. However, the blind obeisance to a terrible man is disturbing.
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38 minutes ago, kermit said:
Despite several reports saying that Lidl was pulling the plug on its US expansion they recently resumed hiring professional staff to acquire additional property and (I assume) resume their buildout. So we may actually see something here eventually. There are state funds available to remediate the site, but I don't know if Lidl has applied for them.
Personally, I love their stores. I hope this gets built.
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1 hour ago, elrodvt said:
^This post makes no sense on many levels.
Many of the other posts seem to reflect hard feelings / charlotte boosterism or an inability to recognize the significant shortcomings of the southeast in general. Other than Atlanta and maybe someday Nashville I can't see much of a draw. Lower cost of living doesn't cut it. Someone can always outrace you to the bottom.
Instead we need to become known for being the best at something which appeals to young people: Best recreational pot district in east ;-0 and/or concentrate all these breweries into a walkable district with great music and housing options OR a couple world class universities OR build up a world class health care infrastructure etc.... The first two are relatively possible (other than politics) the rest are hard. No matter which choice were made we need a transit tax and concrete plans for more lines and faster damn trains.
Instead our leaders will vaguely complain about the process and move on pretty much aimlessly. BAU.
That's my <2c worth.
I haven't seen many/any hard feelings or boosterism posts (maybe I missed them). Most people seem to be happy Nashville was chosen. The fact that Amazon chose Nashville (without much hope for transit in the foreseeable future) seems to contradict your post (even though I readily acknowledge that Nashville is much hipper than Charlotte and more comparable to Austin in that regard). I think low cost of living/quality of life is meaningful (which is why I live here instead of hip and beautiful San Diego), as are low tax rates. I support transit taxes and the "big bang" but, again, they went to Nashville (where the populace repeatedly votes transit down). Also, Texas has been killing CA with corporate relocations. Outside of Austin, is Texas really that hip? They do have low taxes and less regulation (which is the opposite of what you propose). Let's also remember that (presumably) the only reason NY was selected is because of the massive tax breaks Amazon received. So for a typical company with less leverage, NY is much less attractive. I think perhaps you are projecting your opinion of the Southeast and Charlotte on Amazon but I don't see a lot of evidence that it's accurate. Not looking to argue though. I like Charlotte and think it's fine that you don't.
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57 minutes ago, Ingram said:
It's a place where, if people don’t already live there, they are excited about moving there.
Anecdotally, this appears to be true (I know a lot of people moving there, including several from San Diego). Also true, a lot of long-time residents are opposed to the growth (during business trips, I heard this repeatedly). "We don't want to be Charlotte or Atlanta" was said to me several times. Guess what? They are heading in that direction but without the transit. I like Nashville. Pretty city, love the hills and the river. My impression is that Charlotte residents are more accepting of the rapid growth. I totally get what Amazon sees there though. Aside from transit, it checked all the boxes. Vanderbilt is a huge asset.
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48 minutes ago, atlrvr said:This article indicates a sooner ground breaking, and mid 2020 opening.
Also, calls Market 42, "The Ellis"
First, great picture of Uptown (the cemetery looks great from above). I love/hate the Levine quote, as if he's actually doing something to make First Ward better. Here's hoping he continues to sell off parcels to other developers. Seems to be the only way we will see progress. I'm very excited about this project.
PS City staff, please reopen the f-ing lanes by the long stalled parking garage!
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40 minutes ago, Scribe said:
Agreed on Tep wanting out of Wofford. I secretly hope they pick UNC Charlotte for their new training facilities. I think that would be a great sign, it's a public school, the football team there is only starting out, and this would be a huge boost for the football program there!
Betting on a big multi-use project just over the SC border. Something on par with the Cowboys and Vikings. Will be surprised if it's in NC.
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2 hours ago, Dale said:
Lennar ain’t.
Comparing Lennar to Levine is unfair. And, I've read on this board that they are waiting on permits.
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1 hour ago, asthasr said:
Yesterday I used an architectural term which, as far as I know, is unique to me: "modernistic humanism." This is how I think of it:
- Human-scaled detailing. This means that windows are a good size but are not, generally, glass curtains. If they are, they are very transparent and the floor divisions are obvious. This is the most important point.
- Textured, less "artificial" claddings.
- Often very dark trim.
There are often similarities to the "Structural Expressionist" style of architecture, but with more naturalistic textures and trim and human scaling of the structure.
Examples that I group into this style:
Small-paned windows, textured finish, obvious floor divisions. Dark trim. More info.
Small, distinct windows. Obvious, humanistic floor divisions. Textured (brick) finish. Dark trim. More info.
Distinct windows, obvious floor divisions, textured finished, dark trim. More info.
And another at the tower scale, although this one has brutalist and more distinct modernist elements.
Obvious floor divisions, dark trim, wood details. More info.
By the way, I'd take any of these in Charlotte in a heartbeat. I really like this style! I hope that I'm right in my reading of the elevations of the new building... and I hope that they don't cheap out on the materials.
I'll take a hard pass on the second building, the rest I like.
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This is inaccurate and not supported by any credible source. And, I visit frequently and can tell you that Nashville is literally booming (so much so that many residents are complaining about the pace of growth). As much as Charlotte changed in the last decade, Nashville (to me) feels like it has changed more. I will add (anecdotally) that I know ~20 people who have relocated there from San Diego in the past 24 months.