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  1. 5 hours ago, Niccckk said:

    Just give it time. We definitely have demand for Toronto as this was a previous flight with Air Canada Express.  Flights down to the Caribbean are inevitable. 

    I question that because the international gate is in Concourse B it is limiting airlines from Concourse A to take advantage (Breeze, jetBlue, American)? I imagine if one of them wanted to launch "international" flights it would be confusing for passengers right? It only seems viable for the Concourse B airlines to take advantage (Southwest, Delta, United, Spirit), and of those I only see Southwest or Delta launching international at some point.

    I think AirCanada will return with regional jets within the next few years, probably with 50 seater planes. The PDEW back in 2019 was 19 Passengers Per Day Each Way, however I would think this number would be greater now and with connections and direct service could probably see enough for a 1x per day CRJ.

     

    As far as the international gate only serving concourse B, I agree that it makes it more challenging for airlines currently in concourse A to add international flights. American likely wouldn’t add international flights from RIC anytime soon, with Breeze and JetBlue being the only likely candidates in concourse A. Breeze is scheduled to begin international flights within the next 5 years if not sooner (it will likely be much much sooner) so they would be the most likely, however, I’m sure airlines could be shuffled around in the current tsa configuration to shift spirit or southwest to contours A and have Breeze shift to concourse B so they can access the international gate if the need arises.

    4 hours ago, I miss RVA said:

    1.a.) Time - how much time? My concern is that we've had a year-plus head start over ORF to get our FIS up and running and to get flights going - and if I were a betting man, I'd bet the house we'll still be faffing around when ORF's FIS comes online and they'll have international flights right away. We need to light the afterburners on this.

    1b.) Toronto & Caribbean: Makes sense, since both destinations were well served here previously, and the airport didn't have NEARLY the traffic it has today.

    1c.) I'm throwing in Europe. Maybe it was just "big talk" for a pie-in-the-sky "one-day" "hope for" kind of thing, but recall that Perry Miller has -- on multiple occasions -- said IN THE PRESS -- that Europe is definitely on the table. What that means, who knows. Does "on the table" meaning that RIC/CRAC/CVTA (whoever) is TRYING to convince an airline to take the Nestea Plunge and are repeatedly being told either "no, not happening" or "hmmm... maybe. We'll get back to you" ??  (in other words, RIC's getting blown off). If RVA is somehow "too small" (which AGAIN, keeps coming back to haunt us and I say we need to FIX THIS PROBLEM!!) - then WHY, pray tell, would Mr. Miller state in the media that RIC at least has Europe on the table? Not for right away, obviously - but if RIC were getting rebuffed, would it not make sense to just say nothing?

    2.) Couldn't Gate 15B simply be designated as the "international gate" and be open/available to any/all airlines serving RIC that are flying internationally? Does it have to be dedicated ONLY to the airlines connected to Concourse B?

    3.) Would Air Canada likely come back to start up direct Toronto service again?

    4.) Previously, when we had vacation destinations, did we also have Cancun? Or has RIC never had a connection with a Mexico destination?

    5.) Are we limited to whatever service domestic carriers may offer? I'd be curious to know if RIC/CRAC, et al have reached out to any non-domestic carriers about coming here. Yes - I realize we're too damn small (but - ARE we?) - but with an significant increase in the number of international businesses setting up shop in and around Richmond (LEGO being the biggest, obviously, but far from the only one) - would there not be some latent demand that could lure someone here? I honestly think it's preposterous that as metro RVA continues to grow (particularly if it picks up the pace) and if a large part of that growth is driven by an increasingly large international business presence that it be etched in stone that all international travelers "can just drive to Dulles". How bloody big does RVA have to become? How fast do we need to grow? I'm not saying RIC will ever become a hub of any kind, much less for international flights - and I recognize that much larger airports often have very little international service, but of those that do, they do have one-off's or two-off's or three-off's. It would be nice if RIC could drink even a few sips from this fountain.

    1a).Honestly there is no time limit as it’s entirely dependent on airlines. The only airlines that would add international flights at either airport would likely be budget airlines, which are far less predictable in their routes than the legacy carriers.

     

    1c). I don’t see Europe happening anytime soon for RIC unless major incentives are involved. Metro areas almost 2x the size of RVA, such as Kansas City, Columbus, Indianapolis, and Sacramento having no European service, while cities such as San Antonio, Nashville, and St. Louis only have 1 European flight. There is currently no airline that I would think would take a shot at RIC- Europe based on the market size, which will get better as time goes on due to consistent population growth in RVA. 
     

    2.). Gate B15 can technically serve any airline, however, due to concourse A and B being separated by a tsa checkpoint, it complicates operations to bring a whole ground crew to the other concourse.


    3). I do think Air Canada will likely return to RIC in the next 5 years with a daily flight to Toronto on a small 50 seat regional jet. 
     

    4). Failed Mexican operator Interjet used to operate RIC-Cancun service back around 2015-2016 before that airline went under. 
     

    5). While not limited to only domestic airlines, it isn’t super likely for another current international airline to add service. Unless Mexican low cost carriers, such as Volaris and VivaAerobus really expand their US networks, I would only see US airlines or AirCanada adding international service. If I had to look into a crystal ball, and guess what routes could be added to tropical or international destinations within the next 5 years, my guesses would be as follow:

     

    1.) Air Canada to Toronto

    2.) Spirit, JetBlue or Frontier to Cancun

    3.) JetBlue or Frontier to San Juan

    4.) Breeze to whatever Caribbean destinations they choose to fly to.

     

     

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  2. With recent news that JetBlue and British Airways are looking to begin a codeshare (where each airline can advertise certain routes that the other airline flies), with a list of routes for the proposed codeshare. One of the routes listed in the filing was RIC-NYC (almost certainly JFK), a route that JetBlue does not currently fly. Seems to me that if this codeshare is approved, JetBlue could add RIC-JFK service. Don’t want to get my hopes up but it seems like a pretty likely add for JetBlue if they can secure more codeshare routes with international airlines out of JFK.IMG_3092.thumb.png.9b4b483a480bf9661b5c6cc803de3dfa.png

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  3. 8 hours ago, I miss RVA said:
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    Do we know flight frequencies for these routes this summer?

    Frequencies of the aforementioned routes are as follows:

     

    RIC-MSP (Delta) 2x per day

    RIC-MSP (Sun Country) 2x per week

    RIC-JAX (Breeze) 2x per week

    RIC-ISP (Breeze) 2x per week

    RIC-BWI (Southwest) 2x per day

    RIC-BNA (Southwest) 1x per day

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  4. 1 hour ago, I miss RVA said:

    BIG vote upcoming tonight for the Henrico County Board of Supervisors on Hourigan's request to rezone 622 acres southeast of the I-64-I-295 interchange from agricultural to light industrial for their proposed industrial park that would include multiple data center buildings. According to Jonathan Spiers' reporting in today's RBS, roughly 65% of the land would be built out, and development would be on seven specific areas on either side of Williamsburg Road. Hourigan will purchase the land from Atlantic Crossing LLC, which has previously sought rezoning for industrial development and distribution centers. According to Jonathan's reporting, that development would have represented an investment in the neighborhood of $2 billions. Hourigan's investment, particularly depending on what is built and how many buildings are constructed, is anticipated to greatly exceed that $2 billion figure.

    The county planning commission voted 4-1 in favor of this development.

    The BOS vote tonight is HUGE - and I'm praying the county approves this request. Getting this development off the ground will be another step in the right direction of metro RVA becoming a legitimate data center hub.

    From today's Richmond BizSense:

    https://richmondbizsense.com/2024/05/14/600-acre-data-center-project-in-henrico-up-for-deciding-vote-tonight/

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    I don’t see Henrico denying this, but I Could be surprised.

     

    My reasoning is solely the financial benefit that data centers bring to localities. For example, Loudon County receives a check for over $5million straight to the general fund every time a data center is completed. Data centers also don’t require lots of workers, which doesn’t burden existing roads, and produce no school children. They are an absolute cash cow for municipalities and Henrico has expressed lots of interest in attracting data centers, especially to this area of the county. Any vote against this would likely be a complete 180 from the current position that Henrico has had regarding data centers, so I would think this would be a slam dunk proposal.

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  5. 38 minutes ago, eandslee said:

    Flew to Syracuse, NY this week for a business trip. Whenever I travel I like to compare airports and I gotta say, for a small town, Syracuse, NY has a NICE airport with all the amenities of a large airport!  First, there are 27 gates divided by 2 concourses (A and B) with a central security area so that passengers can wander through both concourses.  I was not expecting this, but I’m currently sitting in a priority lounge in the airport!  This small airport has a lounge…and it’s NICE!  It’s small, but I’ve seen smaller. I took some pics of the lounge (below).  RIC, with all its business travelers is LONG over due for a lounge like this one!  And this airport only serves about 1.5-2 million passengers a year!  Impressive airport to say the least. I think RIC is behind and needs to catch up when I compare the two airports. I know that a lounge is only in the discussion phase for RIC, but that needs to be bumped up in priority!  Just my 2 cents.  Here’s are some photos of the lounge:

     

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    I’d also love for a lounge to be added, the most likely candidate would probably be an escape lounge, which has locations at midsized to smaller airports (such as  Hartford, Cincinnati, Columbus, Reno, Syracuse, West Palm Beach, etc.) so RIC, with all its business traffic would be a shoe in if it weren’t for one thing. It’s tough to justify a lounge at RIC currently as lounges are almost always post security and with RIC splitting passengers between concourse A and B, the lounge would only be available to someone flying out of one concourse and not the other. This would cut down on the amount of passengers able to use the lounge. This is not to mention all of the current retail spots post security are in use and no vacancies currently exist. Consolidating the TSA checkpoint would open up thousands of square feet for new retail and lounge space, which is why it’s very high on the airports priority list for future construction projects.

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  6. 9 minutes ago, Niccckk said:

    Update with the Richmond - Nashville route with Southwest:
    It will now start June 4th, alongside BWI starting, and it appears the BNA flight will be a seasonal daily flight for now, a change from it being a Sunday only flight. This is pretty big and great news! Hopefully it can turn into a year-round flight if demand is maintained for the route. 

    Saw that to, which is great news. It does appear this flight is no longer seasonal and will operate 1x per day year round as a substitute to one of the Atlanta flights. 

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  7. 9 minutes ago, I miss RVA said:

    Even putting aside a LOT of politicking that would no doubt come into play, even if any of the airlines DID want to partner with Amtrak, given the latter's plans to expand service between Richmond and DC, I'd say the best chance of something like this coming to pass would be once Amtrak establishes hourly service between Main Street Station and Union Station (and vice versa). I don't have the Virginia Rail plan handy at the moment, but aren't we looking at the timeframe for that to be somewhere in the latter half of the decade? Maybe as early as 2026? Maybe later? 2027? I don't remember.  Unless and until, it would be a tough nut to crack.

    What's more - there's the time factor. How long would a flight on Southwest (or any carrier) between RIC and BWI take - about 45 minutes, give or take? Particularly with no true "high speed" rail setup here yet, you'd still looking at a two-plus hour train ride to D.C, depending on time of day (let's say, at worst, 2h:25m). And if the drop-off point in D.C. is at Union Station, that's not factoring in the time (or expense) of schlepping to/from the airport (likely on the Metro, yes?) from/to downtown Washington, regardless of whether the end point was IAD, DCA or BWI. 

    Not sure how well it would book - plus how would the price points (rail vs air) stack up against each other? Would there be enough volume to make it worth whatever the airlines would have to pony up to partner with Amtrak (or vice versa)?

    PLUS (and this is a BIGGIE for me): do we reallllllllllllllly want to take potential passenger volume AWAY from RIC? Given how much we're kvetching about, praying, hoping and pushing for increasing volume through RIC in order to bring more direct service to more destinations and more frequent flights on established routes, expand the airport, etc., wouldn't it be better if Southwest had four or five flights per day out of RIC to BWI and possibly IAD? Or even just two or three? IF, because of the connections available at BWI, it's an untapped gold mine for potential passenger volume, wouldn't that be the better way to go?

    Part of me loves concept - but there are a lot of hurdles and a ton of questions. 

    The transforming rail in Va plan will be fully implemented by 2030, as construction of the second span of the long bridge between Alexandria and DC will need to be completed.

     

    In regard to if this has happened before where Amtrak partners with an airline, it’s not a very unrealistic concept at all. United used to partner with Amtrak for flights between Philadelphia and Newark, however I believe this stopped during covid. It is also happens all the time in Europe where airlines codeshare with state railways to eliminate short hop flights.

     

    The Southwest flights to BWI are scheduled to take around 30 minutes, which from a quick glance is quicker than the 3ish hours it takes on Amtrak. However, the flight costs over 2x what a ticket on Amtrak costs and you also have to factor in atleast 45 minutes to board, 30 minutes to get to the airport, park and walk to the terminal, then atleast 30 minutes to get bags from the baggage claim. After all factors are taken into effect, there is less than a 30 minute difference to go from downtown to downtown with the train being significantly cheaper.

     

    While I agree it would likely never happen, I personally would prefer more rail service to Baltimore than having Southwest operate 4-5 flights per day. However, they serve different markets. There may be 1-2 passengers per day that only fly from Richmond to Baltimore and don’t connect onwards so while 2-3 flights per day is good, I’d rather Southwest only fly this route for connections to the northeast and Ohio/Michigan/Indiana as all other connections could be better served through other Southwest focus cities that have far more demand.

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  8. 16 minutes ago, Niccckk said:

    Urban twitter is definitely getting a kick out of this news haha

    While I understand their frustration at face value and I do agree with what they are saying, they need to realize this flight it souly for CONNECTING flights as BWI is a Southwest Hub. I read on Simply-Flying that like 98% of traffic on the RIC-IAD route are connecting, which I believe is similar with RIC-BWI, where almost all traffic is connecting.

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    Agreed, in a perfect world Southwest would partner with Amtrak to have passengers go from Richmond to BWI via Amtrak, but there are definitely logistical challenges that come from that. 

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  9. 6 minutes ago, I miss RVA said:

    Ugh... so it's pretty likely then that this kiboshes any hope that Southwest might actually "beef up" direct service to a few more destinations to/from RIC?

    Not necessarily. 
     

    Southwest uses BWI as a connecting point for places in the northeast, such as Buffalo, Syracuse, Portland, etc.). This change will make it easier for RIC passengers to access the northeast without having to fly all the way out to Midway and fly back, saving RIC passengers money and time. Southwest could still very easily beef up service to the west or South as BWI isn’t a great connecting point for RIC passengers trying to get to Florida, Texas or the Caribbean.

    38 minutes ago, Niccckk said:

    This sucks but it definitely makes sense as Southwest is really just diversifying where people can connect. I hope they eventually bring back MCO & TPA though.

    You'd think they'd keep the ATL frequency higher because ATL is pretty much the gateway to Florida & Carabiean destinations with Southwest if your connecting, or else you gotta go to Baltimore or MDW now.

    It seems like Southwest is downsizing Atlanta because Greenville/Spartanburg is also going to 1x per day from Atlanta. This is likely due to an over saturated market in the Atlanta area as Delta has their largest hub and Spirit and Frontier have focus cities in addition to Southwest. My guess is Southwest is gonna look to keep moving away from Atlanta and my guess is that Nashville, Orlando and Tampa will pick up the slack. 

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  10. Well it’s official. Southwest is launching RIC-BWI with 2x daily flights. I think this is primarily to connect RIC flyers to the northeast as it isn’t an advantageous location for flights to the west coast or south as opposed to Southwest’s more central focus cities of Chicago Midway, Atlanta, Nashville, St Louis or Denver.

     

    Speaking of Nashville, RIC-BNA on Southwest is bookable in June as well with daily flights which is big because it shows Southwest taking a stab at daily service for a few weeks to get a feel for the market. My guess is next summer, Southwest will expand to daily service year round to BNA.

     

    The only downside is that Southwest is reducing RIC-ATL to 1x per day. Below is a breakdown of Southwests schedule from RIC:

     

    RIC-BWI: 2x per day

    RIC-BNA: 1x per week seasonal (7x per week in June 2024)

    RIC-MDW: 2x per day

    RIC-DEN: 1x per day

    RIC-ATL: 1x per day
     

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  11. 22 minutes ago, I miss RVA said:

    So wait - that means Delta to/from Detroit 3x daily now? What was it previously?

    Is anyone keeping a tally of 1.) new routes, 2.) increase frequencies on existing routes and 3.) larger aircraft that's will be coming online in 2024 at/for RIC?

    Delta has been flying 3x daily flights to Detroit out of RIC for years I believe, since they merged with Northwest airlines back in 2008. My hope is that as Delta’s hubs at ATL, LGA, JFK and BOS become more and more crowded and adding flights becomes harder and harder into those airports, Delta will upguage aircraft into those cities and add more flights to places like Detroit or Minneapolis for connections.

     

    As far as the total upguages for this summer out of RIC, it’s tough to say without going and looking at every airlines scheduled. I’ve listed the summer schedules for the major airlines (American, Delta, JetBlue, Spirit, United, Southwest) out of RIC for their flights that operate atleast daily. The ones I remember are below:


    American (21 daily flights):

    RIC-CLT (7x A321)

    RIC-DFW (3x 737)

    RIC- LGA (3x E175)

    RIC- ORD (3x E145)

    RIC- PHL (4x E145)

    RIC-MIA (1x 737)

     

    Delta (25 daily flights):

    RIC-DTW (1x A319, 2x CRJ900)

    RIC-ATL (9x 757)

    RIC- MSP (2x CRJ900)

    RIC-BOS (3x E175)

    RIC-JFK (3x CRJ900)

    RIC- LGA (5x CRJ900)

     

    United (15 daily flights):

    RIC-IAH (1x 737)

    RIC-DEN (2x 737)

    RIC- ORD (1x 737, 3x CRJ550)

    RIC-IAD (4x CRJ550)

    RIC-EWR (1x E175, 3x CRJ550)

     

    JetBlue (6 daily flights):

    RIC-BOS (3x E190)

    RIC-FLL (1x A320)

    RIC-MCO (2x A320)

     

    Spirit (4x daily flights):

    RIC-LAS (1x A320)

    RIC-FLL (2x A320)

    RIC-MCO (1x A320)


    Southwest (6x daily flights):

    RIC-ATL (3x 737)

    RIC-MDW (2x 737)

    RIC-DEN (1x 737)
     

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  12. 1 hour ago, eandslee said:

    To add to that good news, I just saw where frequency on Delta between RIC-DTW will increase.  The big deal is that one of the flights will be an A-319 - a mainline aircraft much larger with more capacity than the CRJs!  This is actually the first time I’ve seen anything larger than a CRJ serving this route…at least that I can remember.  This is GREAT news!  DCI = Delta Connection Incorporated 

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    Delta has been flying their 717s into RIC for quite some time, usually once or twice a day during the winter, along with 1-2 CRJ flights (3 flights per day total). The A319 (130+ seats) shows a shift in capacity away from the 717 (110 seats), atleast at Detroit. Hopefully we see the A319 start replacing the CRJs on this route and others as well as Delta continues restoring capacity out of Detroit post pandemic. I’d also love to see larger aircraft used on Deltas route to Boston, as the current 3x daily E175 (76 seats) are averaging over 90% full. The A220-100 or 717 come to mind as possible larger aircraft to use. 

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  13. https://thepointsguy.com/news/southwest-airlines-cuts-lax-maui/
     

    Some interesting new Southwest news. If you look at the bottom of the article, there is a very important RIC detail.


    Elsewhere, the airline will add limited-time service from Baltimore/Washington International Thurgood Marshall Airport (BWI) to Richmond International Airport (RIC) and from Phoenix Sky Harbor International Airport (PHX) to Des Moines International Airport (DSM).

     

     

    Looks like RIC-BWI , which will primarily serve as a feeder route to Southwests BWI network, will be coming online seasonally. No details provided as to what days this route will fly and when it will begin, but it’s is shown on Southwests route map as a direct route from Richmond. I’ll keep my eye out to see if I can find more information out.

     

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  14. 2 hours ago, Child2021 said:

    Virginia: Large new warehouse proposed for New Kent (richmond.com)

    Warehouse the size of 24 football fields coming to this Richmond-area interchange

     

    An Indiana developer is planning a 1.4 million-square-foot warehouse facility next to the Route 106 interchange on Interstate 64 in New Kent County.

    The one-story building – the size of 24 football fields – will be next to the new, $185 million, 800,000-square-foot warehouse and distribution center that Autozone is building by that same interchange.

     

    The entire section of I-64 between Richmond and Hampton Roads is exploding with New Warehouses. With this, the Autozone warehouse coming online and the massive Lovett Commerce Center that will have over 2 million square feet in James City County, there will be lots of increased truck traffic on I-64.

  15. 21 minutes ago, HRVT said:

    This is the trend in minor league baseball stadiums. Instead of building up, they're largely building out with wide and open concourses (see Scranton/Wilkes-Barre for instance who demolished their double deck mini-Vet for a design shaped like this).  Durham and Charlotte are two more examples like this. I think it looks solid. 

    You are correct about this trend. Almost every minor league baseball stadium built in the last 20 years is pretty much single tiered, with a layer of suites above the single level. Ballparks now attempt to wrap around the field with the intention that fans can view the game from any angle.

     

    As far as the proposed stadium, I think it looks really good. Lots of things to like, such as the beer garden, behind home plate suites (which is very major league ish), and seating completely around the stadium. I do wish there was some sort of roof that extended over some of the lower deck seats in order to provide more shade, but that should hopefully be an easy add. Overall, it looks a lot more unique than most minor league ballparks and definitely fits the Richmond theme (it doesn’t look like a cut and paste cookie cutter stadium imo).

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  16. 18 minutes ago, eandslee said:

    Not 100% sure what this means, but I THINK it means that JetBlue is boosting its frequency on the BOS-RIC to 4x daily. Someone please verify what I’m reading is indeed what I think it is:

     

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    Only time will tell. If it is they haven’t updated their schedule as RIC-BOS goes from 3 to 2 daily flights this summer when JetBlue switches out the 100 seat E190 with the almost 150 seat A220-300.

     

    Id love to see them add a flight to San Juan but JetBlue doesn’t seem to eager to try new routes at this point in time.

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  17. 24 minutes ago, eandslee said:

    Cool thread about RIC on Reddit:

     

    I wholeheartedly agree that RIC offers a great passenger experience with the exception of having terrible food options. Would it kill them to add some brand name stuff like a Starbucks or Chick-fil-A?

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  18. A few updates I’ve heard/ seen at the airport.

     

    1. United has been using the 70+ seat E-175 on the morning flight from Dulles to RIC, which represents additional capacity through Dulles. 

     

    2. Can’t remember if this has already been mentioned but JetBlue and Spirit have been adding capacity to Florida for this spring and summer. Some days have 4 daily flights to MCO (2 JetBlue, 2 Spirit) and 3 daily flights to FLL (1 JetBlue, 2 Spirit). Hopefully these become permanent, but it’s nice to see multiple airlines seeing increasing demand to Florida.

     

    3. I saw on airliners.net that Delta’s route from RIC-BOS is averaging 92% full on its three daily E-175 flights. Hopefully we see increased frequencies or upguaging of aircraft (would love to see the A220 or A319 added to the route). This is also in the top 10 for load factors out of all of the routes from Boston.

     

    4. American has placed an order for I believe 90 Embraer E-175 aircraft, in order to phase out their smaller 50 seat jets. This will be helpful in increasing seat capacity out of RIC as currently American flies 50 seat jets to Chicago and Philadelphia, which will be upguaged to larger aircraft once they are delivered.

     

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  19. 10 hours ago, Niccckk said:

    FINALLY! MCO has been underserved the past few years ever since Southwest departed that route. I believe this matches jetBlues 2x daily MCO flights (A320 for one, and E190 for the other)  so I believe we're going to be at 4x daily now for MCO!

    Not only has Spirit increase MCO to 2x daily, Fort Lauderdale will also start 2x daily flights on Spirit. This will mean Spirit will be operating 5 daily flights out of RIC this summer (2x RIC-MCO, 2x RIC-FLL, 1x RIC-LAS) all on the 182 seat A320. Fort Lauderdale will have 3 total daily flights from RIC (2x on Spirit, 1x on JetBlue) and Orlando will have 4 total daily flights from RIC (2x on Spirit, 2x on JetBlue).

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