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Cooper did it!
Nashville.....
"They"...saved us.
The Gulch and SoBro crowds are crying in their craft beer.
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1 hour ago, jan smit said:
For investment reasons I am quite interested in the discussions going on about the building of a MLS-stadium at the proposed location at the fairgrounds land. I have been told that Americans find the idea of living close to a soccer stadium attractive (whilst we in Europe are not so keen). Is this correct? Also I am interested in your opinions re: the chance that this stadion actually will be built: are we talking (almost 100% vs 50/50
"They".....sent Cooper here to be mayor.
He won the election.
muahahahahahaha!
It won't get built.
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Yeah we should just give 10 acres of land to a billionaire so he can build a "mixed-use" development. After all he can't possibly afford to purchase it.
What are the benefits? It's not like he has succesfully enacted policies that have created jobs for millions of Americans.
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34 minutes ago, Bark At The Sun said:
Remember when people thought this was a good idea. Is a parking lot for Nissan now. Not trying to rain on the MLB parade here, but is something to think about.
Think about what?
What are you trying to say?
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3 hours ago, WebberThomas4 said:“Metro’s Office of Economic and Community Development, whose leadership remains in place for now, reports that it is “currently working with partners on 15 projects that would create more than 12,000 jobs and invest $1.5 billion into Nashville.” That could create conflict with the new administration, as Cooper has repeatedly criticized some of the incentive deals made by past administrations. (He did, however, vote for two major packages earlier this year in his previous role as an at-large member of the Metro Council.)”
This is why the folks behind Broadwest, The Moore, and One22One decided not to wait for tenants in order to begin construction.
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1 hour ago, Armacing said:
The only reason this guy isn't run out of town on a rail is because the public is so de-sensitized to this type of corruption. Of course, I could say they are uneducated about how economics works or deceived by "experts" with vested interests, but I prefer to give the public the benefit of the doubt... They're probably just not paying close attention.
The irony is that 24 years ago the public actually forced a referendum vote on the NFL welfare giveaway. Now things have degenerated so much that a Major League Soccer stadium faced little to no opposition.
1 hour ago, Armacing said:Surely most soccer fans would be willing to pay the true market price for a ticket that is high enough to also fund a stadium. What would that be, $500 per seat for a game? Why, for a soccer super-fan, that's peanuts. I don't think we will find many fans whose self-respect would even allow them to contemplate having their ticket prices subsidized by taxpayers... unless maybe they never stopped to think about it because they were very busy thinking about other things. That's probably it: Too busy to think about the philosophical implications.
Too busy with their cravings for craft beer.
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8 minutes ago, Armacing said:
Perfect! Now we know, folks. That's the guy who needs to rustle up some cash to finance this stadium. This guy is the face of crony-capitalism - - trying to use public funds to finance his business venture. He wants the Davidson taxpayers to underwrite the loans for his project (i.e., take on the risk), but he fully intends to keep 100% of the profits for himself.
The only reason this guy isn't run out of town on a rail is because the public is so de-sensitized to this type of corruption. Of course, I could say they are uneducated about how economics works or deceived by "experts" with vested interests, but I prefer to give the public the benefit of the doubt... They're probably just not paying close attention.
Surely most soccer fans would be willing to pay the true market price for a ticket that is high enough to also fund a stadium. What would that be, $500 per seat for a game? Why, for a soccer super-fan, that's peanuts. I don't think we will find many fans whose self-respect would even allow them to contemplate having their ticket prices subsidized by taxpayers... unless maybe they never stopped to think about it because they were very busy thinking about other things. That's probably it: Too busy to think about the philosophical implications.
Hopefully "They" sent Cooper to stop all of this.
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I'm just stating facts against all of the nonstop catatonic caterwauling about glass.
My posting history isn't replete with nattering about glass and crowns.
Quit projecting.
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A cornicopia of caterwauling catatonia. This is pit..tee...full.
Glass box. Glass box. Glass box. Sniffle, sniffle, sniffle.
Glass buildings are everywhere on the planet. Get over it.
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18 minutes ago, Andy20 said:
Look at the Graduate, Sverdling, and Holston House thread. Most are highly complimentary of the brick buildings. Nashville needs some variety, as brick is classic, it ages well, and it is hard to mess up. Plus it meshes well with the overall feel of the city with the old brick buildings of Broadway/2nd Ave.
Brick looks old and outdated.
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3 hours ago, Andy20 said:
We need more brick like this one and the graduate in other developments.
Balderdash. This forum would be filled with moaning and caterwauling if there were old brick buildings everywhere.
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1 hour ago, OnePointEast said:
What's of One KVB's future? The floor plans are on the market and it shows it was last updated on October the 1st.
Apparently they are having trouble with financing. If it doesn't get started in '20 then it probably won't get built. Most projects get built within three years after the release of a rendering.
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2 hours ago, markhollin said:
Matthew Robinson, the principal at MRP Realty, which 3 months ago bought a 16 acre slice of River North for $42.5 million, said he's aiming to make a statement at the outset, front-loading what could be a three-phase project instead of spacing out various buildings more evenly. Robinson also revealed new details about the project's first phase, which will include 650 apartments, 90,000 square feet of retail and 50,000 square feet of office. A 4-acre public park will run directly along the riverfront, with plans calling for a pedestrian bridge to Germantown.
Robinson disclosed the price tag for that first phase ($220 million), MRP's contractor (Archer Western), the expected start and end date (beginning of the second quarter in 2020; opening about two years later), and status of financing (equity secured, construction loan to follow as that work nears).
Here is some of the Q&A:
You're talking about going big right out of the gate. Why? Just doing one building would be disastrous. The first phase has to be pretty large, because we're setting the standard for a new submarket. … Most people wouldn't start with 650 [apartment] units. That's a lot to bring online at the same time. But you kind of have to start with scale when you develop a place. It’s an Opportunity Zone, so we have a 10-year horizon. We’re making decisions for the long-term.How do you see this all unfolding? River North overall, I think you'll see a lot more high-rises later. We're able to go up to 34 stories. But first you need to establish the place, create an environment where people want to be. You lead with residential and retail. And then the office will come, and the office brings along hotels. It daisy-chains along. … We're trying to build a brand, and putting a limited-service hotel there is not on-brand. Hotel operators need to see the office employment over there before they come in.
Given its size and location, River North is a logical contender for big office relocations. If one of those lands in your new backyard, how would that change your thinking? We need to go on something now. If a company like Oracle were to land behind us, we'd probably go higher-density. Our base-level assumption is that we can do more [apartments] in the next phase. But all of a sudden, if Oracle was behind us, we'd probably go with more office.
More behind the NBJ paywall here:
https://www.bizjournals.com/nashville/news/2019/10/04/developer-of-220m-river-north-site-its-basically-a.html?iana=hpmvp_nsh_news_headline
Ah! Howe Daaaarrreee They!
Now where are the pearls?
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Miami is averaging 10k+ a game. Nashville will probably pull 5-10k alone in conventioneers and tourists per game.
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The business community would scoop up loads of tickets for themselves and their prospective clients. Baseball is a major tool for businesses to shmooze clients and prospects.
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3 hours ago, Tennessine said:
What is with these teen-aged Charlotte posters who come over just to start crap
Be careful guy, the betas will get triggered.
Some places have it. Others places don't.
Nashville has it.
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10 minutes ago, PHofKS said:
The usual metrics of applying metro population size, corporate HQ and per capita income data to whether or not Nashville can support a fourth major league sport need to be adjusted to factor in a large transient population of tourists.
As an original season ticket holder to Titans games, I see a large secondary market ticket supply going to visitors from other teams who circle the Titans on their calendars and come down for several days to experience Nashville's attractions. That has to be one of the metrics used in the assessment of Nashville's chances of making MLB successful. The Rays would bring the Yankees and Red Sox twice a year (12? games) and the city would go nuts unlike our other 'peer' cities.
And Nashville can go nuts....
As an American League city, Nashville would fill a large hole in the AL universe. There are 10's of millions in that market area that are closer to Nashville than another AL city.
Detroit (or any city) fans closer to Nashville than Detroit would travel to Nashville for (multiple?)home games. There is a whole different set of metrics that apply to Nashville as compared to 'peer' cities.
Dude, nobody would travel to Nashville for a sporting event. What in the world would make you think that?
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Funny how the consensus on this forum was that the NFL was going to cease to exist and that MLS is on the rise and it's stadium should be next to the Titans stadium downtown. Now it's all hysteria about protecting the NFL.
It seems like any time someone wants to build a development on the east bank of the river, the pearl clutchers come out in full force.
"How dare they!"
"That won't work!"
Reminds me of what the geniuses here were saying about River North.
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57 minutes ago, japan said:
You want to talk about empty seats? Go look at attendance for teams not in the historic baseball markets...
And?
Half-filled and quarter-filled stadiums are a natural ocurrance in MLB. With a 162 game season why wouldn't that occur. MLB makes their money over the long haul of the season.
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This might be one of the five: billion dollar developments on the river Cooper was talking about.
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5 minutes ago, smeagolsfree said:
There is not an MSA with 2 million or under with 4 of the big five franchises. If there is please correct me. Do we have the population and the spending power to support another major league team?
Majah Leeguh Sahcah don't count.
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16 hours ago, claya91 said:
Big baseball fan here.. several issues come to mind.
1. We have a brand new 91 million dollar triple A stadium
2. MLB is having attendance issues and Nashville would be the second smallest metro to host a MLB team.
3. The majority of baseball fans here have allegiance to the Braves and to a lessor degree (unfortunately) the Cubs.
4. Nissan Stadium is a bottom tier NFL stadium and any further expansion would be disrupted (and necessary to host a super bowl)
If that logic had merit then the Oilers would never have come. After all the two most popular teams in the region before their arrival were the Steelers and Cowboys. On top of that I don't know anyone who cares one iota about the Braves today and they are certainly not going to not go to a game in Nashville because of loyalty to them or even worse the Cubs.
Outside of the playoffs, baseball games have never been filled to capacity. Going back to the 90s, I've seen all of the teams have games with far less than capacity crowds.
The Super Bowl has a top rotation of Miami and New Orleans. You can definitely now add Los Angeles and Las Vegas. Those cities are going to host anywhere from one to two (maybe even three) Super Bowls a decade. The next group is Tampa Bay and Phoenix. Those two will get at least one a decade. That leaves Houston and Atlanta in the every once in a while category and that's assuming Atlanta's Super Bowl wasn't just a one off gift for building a stadium just like the Super Bowls for Indianapolis, Detroit, Minnesota, New York, San Francisco, and Dallas.
So that means if Nashville elbows it's way into the Miami, New Orleans, Los Angeles, and Las Vegas rotation (which it can); it will probably only get a Super Bowl once every seven to twelve years. 81 home baseball games a year over that same time span would be worth more.
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3 hours ago, Tyrone Wiggum said:
I'm genuinely interested in this thread from the perspective of why Nashville thinks it's a better fit for MLB than Portland or Charlotte; Davidson County's per capita is 15% lower than Mecklenburg County's, in a significantly smaller tv market that already has three "professional" teams (MLS is about as professional as EFL League Two, but whatever), and Charlotte is smaller than Portland.
Butts in seats no longer drive margins for a significant majority of MLB teams; it's all about the TV contract, and though Tampa just got a massive upgrade to its deal, it's still a crap deal comparatively in a market nearly 70% larger than Nashville's.
So what gives? Is it the guy who knows other famous people but doesn't appear to have any money but makes lots of loud noises? Sincerely confused.
Why?
Because it's Nashville. Nashville has it and those other towns don't.
These people know what they're doing. There's a reason there are at least eleven half billion to two billion dollar developments occuring.
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The Tennessee Titans have had empty seats everywhere for the last five seasons for just eight home games a year. A privately funded baseball stadium mixed use development will probably get the go ahead over a near billion dollar stadium renovation for a team that can't fill the seats for eight games a year.
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Interesting how none of the people caterwauling could name which projects were downsized or affected otherwise by the city. This is because as stated the city doesn't do it. This is fascinating because there are posters who for over a decade have been caterwauling and natering that lie.
It's all meme posting. Say the same thing over and over no matter how asinine it is and the guppy school will tag along and repeat it without thought.