[Camperdown (Greenville News Building Site)]

How your posts make me feel:

Interesting........

 

So, you have what is one of if not the most visible site in DT Greenville, the gateway to your best asset and you propose this.............

 

http://www.greenvilleonline.com/story/news/local/2015/05/05/new-hotel-high-rise-planned-for-downtown-greenville/26932691/

 

which is not much different than this..........

 

http://www.marriott.com/hotels/travel/cltbt-springhill-suites-charlotte-ballantyne-area/

 

If you are ok with that, then that explains a lot. 

 

But, folks in the city should want more than this.  This entire project could easily be in the suburbs...........the office portion (and the new Courtyard) look very similar to a suburban office park.....

 

http://www.ghs.org/patewoodoffices#.VV1LVLltqUk

 

So, yes, this is a complete failure in design.   And, based on the posts in this thread, a lot of people agree.

 

Of course, you still think Greenville is the fastest growing metro in SC so why would I expect you to understand.  Maybe you will believe the numbers.......Charleston is growing at twice the rate of Greenville.  Myrtle Beach is growing faster as are the Charlotte counties.  Columbia and Greenville are in the same band growth wise, materially the same. 

[Camperdown (Greenville News Building Site)]

It's going to have retail, restaurants, movie theater, fitness center, hotel, public plaza, apartments, office space, etc. Seems like a great state of the art mixed use development to me. What do you suggest they have on site instead? Anybody who thinks this project is "disappointing" doesn't have a clue.

Magnolia Park has restaurants, a cinema etc.......and is disappointing.  It is not the tenant list but the design...............and I am not convinced the numbers work for a movie theater but time will tell.

 

It is disappointing because the buildings are bland at best.......this is not great design.  This building has no presence on the street and looks like a bland cheaply built hotel that could have easily been built on an interchange.

 

http://www.greenvilleonline.com/story/news/local/2015/05/05/new-hotel-high-rise-planned-for-downtown-greenville/26932691/

 

the office building is even more disappointing.  It seems as though the project is built on a tight budget to make the numbers work.  The open plaza is not inviting, it looks like a place where you will have valet stands, not a place to sit.  I though they would have oriented the project towards Greenville's greatest asset, the park.

 

While it is a different scale, look at the presence and detail that you see on a building with similar street orientation as the Greenville News site...........

 

http://www.experiencetryonplace.com/

 

Yes, I know........this office building is much larger but that Is not the point, it has a dramatic impact to the street and city. 

[Haywood Mall Retail]

Haywood benefits greatly from being a Simon Mall.  They are very good at packaging "A" list malls with others to fill their space. 

[Greenville Highrise Index]

But will it get there? I would at least like to see them renovate the outdated tallest building. Mid-rise density is still nice though.

It depends.....currently, rental rates are too low, vacancy rates are too high and a large anchor is needed. But, developers are building height in a lot of markets. The numbers just don't make sense for Greenville.