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MERRY CHRISTMAS CHARLESTON NATIVE
This is the article in today's Post and Courier about city council's decision to allow tall buildings in the neck area. Charleston will have an additional skyline in the Magnolia Development. Read for yourself.
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Okay fellas, let us remember that any good news for any city in SC is good news for us all. Obviously CorgiMatt is just as proud of Columbia as Charleston Native is of Charleston. And also understand that Charleston gets good news all the time...Columbia gets left out alot.
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Those other projects are good, but what are their size? The size and scope of the Magnolia project itself is huge adding 12,000 new homes to the Neck (including condos, not cookie-cutter suburban homes). Noisette is proposing a total of 8,000 new urban homes for the lower North area. These developments, if successful, will increase the city's population to nearly the same as present-day city of Charlotte. And that is a quote from the City Paper articles. I tried posting links, but I can't find them.
Anyway, what makes Magnolia and Noisette so special is the sheer size of them. I don't know if the projects in Cola or G'ville are similar in size.
That's some great information. Let's be careful about boasting about one's city. South Carolina forumers have a tendency of arguing about who's city is better when information like this is presented.
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Oh, ok. The article referred to it as the Charleston area. When are you moving back there?
Okay guys let's stop fighting over what city is better. It's sounds like we have nothing better to do than be on this forum and bicker about something that really doesn't matter. Both cities are fine. Charleston has alot going for it, as well as Columbia. Columbians like to cheer on their city because it does get overlook by the others often and Charlestonians are very proud of theirs for winning all the attention that South Carolina gains, but let's realize that we are all South Carolinians.
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CHARLESTON NATIVE, this is for you. Last night's State Of The City Address highlighted the many accomplishments and future goals for the city of Charleston. Even-moreso the mayor released the latest city proper population of 115,540. Here's the link:
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It definitely is subjective. I don't find Columbia to be unwalkable at all, quite the opposite. Now that all downtown intersections have walk and don't walk signs that are very new and bright and have count-downs as in 20, 19, 18, 17 to let you know how much time you have to get across the street, we are set. The sidewalks are wide and not uneven from tree roots.
I don't believe Greenville has any brighter of a future than the other big cities in SC. Columbia's economy is so diverse and steady - always has been, always will be, and USC has stepped forward to lead the way from here on out. Even tourism is picking up in the Capital City.
Columbia feels bigger because it is. Not only is the grid huge in comparison to the others, but Columbia's metro area, as opposed to MSA is the only one in SC over 500,000 at 525,000, and the core-based MSA is 680,000+, about 100,000 more than any other in SC. And the inner city vibe is growing exponentially, month by month.
Columbia isn't the only one with metro over 500,000. Charleston's has been over 500,000 since '99
I didn't say Columbia was unwalkable. I walked it all the time when I lived there. But I could see visitors being somewhat intimidated by it.I said Greenville's future is brightest becuase I see it has having the most potential to make the most progress towrards a more urban core. What I should ahve added is that I see Columbia and Charleston as being (far) ahead in that regard. So while Greenville would make the most advances, it has less to work with than the other two as it stands now.
I'm not tryin gto 'hate' on Greenville or anything. But you have to be willing to accept some truth.
What would make your point better, CorgiMatt is to compare Urban Areas. Columbia was 423,000 in 2000, compared to Greenville, which was like 325,000 or so.
The other side of this arguement is that Greenville is the heart of a metro of 1.1 million. You have to take that into consideration as well.
In 2000 U/A's were
Charleston 423,000
Columbia 420,000
Greenville 302,000
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Your right, I can agree columbia does get over looked in so many areas. But some way columbia always pop right back up. As far as other sc cities criticizing columbia thats natural to feel inferior to the biggest city in the state. Charleston might be more urban, greenville might be cleanier!! But the bottom line columbia is the biggest, and is the only city in sc that you get a big city vibe. By the time Charlotte really realizes whats 80miles south, it will be too late. Columbia can easy compete with Raleigh & Charlotte . Charlotte has a hard time keeping people there. Alot of people move to Charlotte, but will later move to atl because Charlotte wasn't big enough for them. I can easily see the most slept on city in the carolinas becoming the greatest city in the carolinas
I love all of our Carolina cities and believe they are all well respected. What gets me is how some who would run on with Columbia being the biggest this and that. The city isn't the largest by much. A couple of thousand population-wise. I lived in Columbia for quite a while. It is a wonderful community but I wouldn't try to promote it as the biggest city like Charleston and Greenville are the size of let's say Newberry or even Kingstree. And all three have that "big city" vibe.
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Charleston city council made some important steps recently in height restrictions in parts of downtown. Though this may seem as a hinderance for those wishing high rise development, a plan unveiled by a city council member states that the idea is to keep hih rises away fromresidential neighborhoods in downtown Charleston. What the latest plan does is focus more high rise buildings toward the spine of downtown. This is what the city wants. The high rise construction around Marion square was approved.
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The thing is that it will get to be that size one day. There are too many things going for Columbia right now, and the growth will certainly come along with that. I hope that the city will eventually begin to seriously consider other mass transit options in order to prepare for such growth.
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I doubt Columbia will ever get to the size of Charlotte. Its growing now, but so is every other metro in the state. I like Columbia and all but it amuses me to hear someone from Columbia alsways refer to it like it is some HUGE city. Some friends of mine came down from Columbia the other day and stated that Columbia is basically USC and government. I usually compare Columbia with something like Lexington, KY. I lived in Lexington for about 3 years and those two cities are pretty much the same...only Columbia is a bit smaller.
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I agree. An ice skating rink next to the canal would be awesome! Des Moines has some cool buildings for a smaller city. Their advantage is that they are the only major city in Iowa so they get the vast majority of the state's projects.
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I have been to Des Moines, It is a bit larger than Columbia.
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Mary Clark, former mayor of James Island, is a trip y'all!
She is actually suing the city of Charleston for "injuries" sustained tripping over a sidewalk on Broad Street TWO YEARS AGO. Of course she states that none of this is politically motivated, but that she had to file before the two-year statute of limitations ran out. But she names Charleston mayor Joe Riley as well as entire City Council as defendants and gives the former Town of James Island town hall address as her return address. Read all about it [url="http://www.charleston.net/stories/Default.aspx?newsID=30704
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Earlier in one of the posts, Charleston Native told of the plan for a 20 story tower to be placed at the Medical University of South Carolina. Recently I have found that to be true. Plans are in the works to construct 2 more towers at the MUSC campus. One of which is to be 20 stories and the other about 15 - 18 stories tall. The height restrictions in Downtown Charleston are more relaxed in the Medical area, due to the fact that it was the catalyst that convinced MUSC to stay on the peninsula. Also, the Magnolia project is slated to have some office towers as well. I contacted someone with the company that controls the neck area redevelopment and was told that high rise towers are in the plan. The height restriction are only enforced in the historic downtown area from Mount Pleasant street down to the Battery.
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Interesting article in today's Post & Courier
http://www.charleston.net/stories/Default....ction=localnews
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It doesn't matter it's only a name. Columbia's airport see's relatively as much traffic as the state's other "international" airports. There is no Hartsfield, or Douglas in the state, were still not quite that important yet.
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sandlapper, how long have you lived in Columbia?
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Interesting. Is Towne Centre a tradional mall like Northwoods or is it more of a large shopping center?
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Its neo-traditional. More of a towne centre approach. The idea was to get away from the traditional indoor mall. It doesn't look like the traditonal strip shooping centers . Rumor has it that Carolina Park may contain a traditional mall.
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I occurs to me that while Charleston doesn't two "malls" they do have a downtown shopping corridor that is unmatched by any other city in SC, so that could concievable take the place of a mall.
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Charleston has three area traditonal malls and one non-traditional mall. Citadel is located in West Ashley. Northwoods is in the north area. Shops at Charleston Place is downtown. Towne Centre is in Mount Pleasant. Rumors were for another mall to be planned in the near future. Location has not yet been disclosed.
Economic Development in South Carolina
in South Carolina
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That is good news for SC!